Struggling with son's girlfriends personality

Not normal for my area of Italy. Next time, just look her in the eye and say, "Che brutta figura!" This will make it plain that she's showing herself up.

Of course it is. The 18% are too dim to realise that though poor things.

Appearances tell you fuck all. What they do is affirm your bias and prejudice before you actually know what the person is really like.

Yes she will be a distant memory, and so will her son at the rate OP is going !

Her own husband advised she back off and instead she went hell for leather reading her DS and his DP a full breakdown of everything that has annoyed her about his DP since the girl arrived.

Exactly

I wouldn’t risk damaging my relationship with my son over this.

Ignore her, she’ll be a distant memory by Christmas.

Why should he back her up when he thinks she's wrong? Let's face it, he was proved right. OP listening to those on here who backed her up, and acting on their advice instead of his, has gone horribly badly.

And there's nothing more sexist than saying that a man can't have an opinion that's correct, if he's agreeing with someone attractive. Jeeze.

Brits do have ugly dress sense compared to other nations.

Speak for yourself!

It doesn’t tell you whether or not they’re kind, intelligent, funny, generous etc.

You know, the things that actually matter.

Very bad harvest year for olives, sadly. I’ve been starting my bolognese with champagne to save on the pennies

Have you seen the price of good quality olive oil in the uk shops recently?

appearance tells you A LOT about people though. Despite what many posters like to pretend.

Being fit and sporty is a lifestyle. It's not all, but it's already a lot.

It's not surprising that top CVS from the best universities - and I include Oxbridge, Imperial and so on, it's not surprising that they mix academic excellence AND competitive sports. People who like to achieve do it in most areas.

So yes, appearance and self-pride do matter.

Oofff, you actually sat them down and gave them a list of issues you have with her..? This would have been the time to pick battles.

Ie - “I appreciate your passion on the subject of health, however I have 2 teenage DD’s at an age where eating disorders are all too common. I dont want any discussion on obesity or how sad it is for people to be fat because they absolutely could get a dangerous wrong impression.”

Instead, You compiled ever grievance including a complaint that they were holding hands too much. She plays with his hair. Who the fuck is that offending and why?? I would have planned to leave early and go to Edinburgh too. Sure, he’s telling you it wasn’t what you said but you’ve made it quite clear she isn’t liked by how rude you were.

Well said. I wasn’t sure myself how to put it into words kindly.
She might be coming across rude, but she’s not wrong.
OP give her benefit of a doubt ( and some time..)
To me she just sounds like a young girl in love.
She is not British, take that into account too ( what Brits perceive as rude some other nations may perceive as merely honest)

Italians find generalising and stereotyping their nation just as offence as any other Nationality. They don't just say what's on their mind, they interact and socialise to the same norms as other societies. We have had a daughter with an Italian boyfriend who moved to Italy, loads of Italian students and spent plenty of time in Italy They might be more animated with family but they wouldn't be like this as a guest unless they were a rude Italian. Which is the point. She's rude.
And the rubbish about passionate culture excusing PDA. Do you see hords of Italians with their tongue down each other's throught when you go to Italy. Of course you don't.

This

@SlightlyJaded talk about cultural ignorance. I lived in Edinburgh for many years, never saw a single deep fried Mars bar anywhere. Instead there was gorgeous local produce (venison , scallops, vegetables ) in beautiful restaurants.
It's a very cultured and foodie city.

I've lived in Italy, they're much blunter than the Brits (though not nearly as blunt as - say - the Dutch) and very proud of "their" culture, they don't appreciate the quirkier more unconventional nature of British fashion and they vocally disapprove of fat people. They're obsessed with fresh food prepared the "right" way (this is mainly a good thing imo) and still very scared of eating - say - and Indian meal. It's changing, but slowly. She's young and unpolished but you are taking her comments WAY too personally. You just don't like her, that's all and you're going to have to suck it up.

For goodness sake, how is it acceptable to speak about men in that way?

Tell you son that his girlfriend is both beautiful and intelligent. You just don't want those kind of comments in front of your girls because you want to minimise their exposure to anything that can be damaging to their body image, but you know that she didn't mean anything bad by it - could she just dial those sorts of comments back when she comes next time? And to her: She's welcome back any time. Even if you don't mean it. They may or may not last as a couple but either way you want to maintain a good relationship with your son and it does seem as if shes a big improvement on earlier girlfriends!

Anyone visiting would think our national costume is trackie bottoms with sliders/Crocs.

sounds like you live in a very different sort of area to me! There will always be differences between sectors of society, but when we are talking about a country’s general sense of fashion we would normally look at the average people - not the dregs.

It’ll be trashed for 5 minutes until he needs a place to stay in London again.

I was thinking that.

Staying for three weeks before going off to freeload elsewhere!

Agreed. So many dimwits fall apart with a pair of breasts in display

I don’t think you were wrong to bring up the criticisms (lightly, something like “ok once was enough, we get the message etc) but I do think you shouldn’t have mentioned the PDAs (rather kept quiet and counted down the days @Bluebrownies

It’ll be trashed for 5 minutes until he needs a place to stay in London again.
He will grow up and realise once he has his own home and has to host a rude guest I’m sure