Do you divide up the cost per person or per rooom?

@mrsm43s but nobody is getting half a room per person. These a couples, in the OP. I wouldn't describe being in "half a room" when I'm sharing with my partner. Everyone is getting a room and sharing the same facilities.

No, you have said that you object to paying "double" for "twice as many people".

Which clearly implies that you think that someone sharing a room with a partner should have access to all the facilities of the rental without paying their fair share.

I bet when you go out to dinner you insist on splitting the bill equally even though you had 3 courses + wine when everyone else just had a main and soft drink, because that's "fair".

If everyone is paying the same, then each adult needs to get the same. So that is either everyone getting one room per person, or everyone sharing and getting half a room per person. I'm happy with either.

What's not reasonable is some people think that some people should get one room per person for the same price as others get half a room per person. It's very greedy to expect to get double for the same price.

The whole kitchen/bathroom/living room etc is a red herring.

Two people in two rooms is TWO lots of kitchen/bathroom/living room PLUS two rooms

Two people one room is TWO lots of kitchen/bathroom/living room PLUS only one room.

The people in the second group should obviously pay less per person that the people in the first group - because they are getting less.

But no one has suggested that. No one at all.

All people are suggesting is that two people in two rooms should pay more than two people sharing a room.

It should be split per head. You are sharing a house so you need to factor in that you are all sharing the living room, kitchen, bathroom, cooking facilities, electric etc. Its only fair all adults pay the same however couples should get the bigger rooms if they are sharing.

Nobody is dictating anything, it’s a holiday invite, go or don’t go.

If the way it’s been arranged by the person doing all the planning, researching and organising isn’t to your liking just don’t go, or organise something yourself another time.

If anyone I invited on holiday moaned this much about it I’d rather they just stayed home tbh, they’d soon start complaining about having to split a joint food shop per person or moaning that someone used an extra slice of bread.

I don’t think group holidays are for you if you’re unable to work this out.

Anyone who thinks that someone sharing a room with another person should get the rental for free is selfish and greedy and expecting a free ride.

But just keep ignoring the point being made that the price of a holiday rental is not just about bedrooms.

But why do people who don't wish to share think its OK to dictate that two people (any two, regardless of relationship status) aren't allowed to save money by sharing a room if they want to? (and thereby bringing the villa costs down for everyone)

Don't share if you don't want to, but it is unreasonable to expect 2 people in 2 rooms to not pay more than 2 people sharing one room.

It's not to do with being single or being married. It's to do with sharing a room between two, or having two rooms for two people.

Anyone who expects two rooms for 2 people at the same cost as one room shared between two people is selfish and greedy and expecting others to subsidise them.

If you took it upon yourself to be the person organising and researching the villa you could find one that had as many bedrooms as you like.

Because a double sized private space to yourself is nicer and more luxurious than half a shared space, obviously. Why do singles not see that.

Assuming all rooms are equal (and I've repeatedly said that different pricing for different rooms based on size and facilities is fine).

Two people sharing a room should pay the same as any two other people sharing a room, regardless of relationship status.

Two people having two separate rooms should pay more than two people sharing a room between them, because they are getting much more than two people sharing a room.

@JimHalpertsWife yes you could say that, but why would you?

But there is only a finite number of rooms in the villa.

@mrsm43s
But you aren't just paying for a room. You are paying for a villa. So you are paying for the kitchen and bathrooms, living area and all the facilities

Why would you be paying half as much for this stuff as a single person?

Added to which no bills has equally sized rooms. Couples will get a bigger room. If you want to pay the same amount as a couple as a single person the. You'd have to be ready to accept you'll be as likely to have to smallest room as the single person.

@LittleBigHead

Single people generally get the worst rooms or no private room at all.
Yes they would typically get the smaller room because it's for them only. A couple get a bigger room because they have to share. So everyone gets the same amount of space.

And if everyone is paying the same then it makes sense that two people sharing would get a bigger room as they have to share that bigger space between the two of them

Exactly!
Forget about the rooms. You're splitting the holiday cost. As long as everyone has a bed and someone's not on the sofa it's the only fair way.

You're not paying for the room, you're paying for the holiday!!!

I'm glad the people I go away with are just happy to be involved and go away for the experience with friends rather than figuring out who sleeps in what square footage of room per night.

Fine, so if you’re in this situation just say that, I don’t think anyone is suggesting you can’t.

Per person . If it’s per room, the single people will pay more than the couples.

Yes - which is precisely why it’s fairer to price per person rather than per room: that way a single person doesn’t generally mind taking the less nice single bed / bunk bed room that most couples wouldn’t want, because it isn’t being treated as being of equal value and they aren’t paying the same price for it as a couple is for a spacious king room.

Yes bit then if dh and I were paying the individual cost we could say "fine then we will have a room each please"

I agree with this.

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Single people generally get the worst rooms or no private room at all.

No. Two people sharing a room is two people sharing a room, regardless of relationship status. Not everyone in a relationship shares a room at home, or sleeps well sharing a room.

Just because a couple have two incomes (because they work two jobs) doesn't mean that a single person is entitled to be subsidised by them. A whole room per person costs more than half a room per person. Someone wanting a whole room needs to pay for a whole room, someone prepared to share should only expect to pay for half the cost of their room.

No one is expecting the single person to pay towards the couples holiday in any way, shape or form. A single person in a double room to themselves is already upping the cost for everybody by necessitating a house with more bedrooms that if everyone was prepared to share. They, at least, need to cover the cost of their own, private double room.

There's a reason why I only do hotel holidays if I'm going with singles, because it takes away their chance to try to duck out of paying their share. They always want to pay the shared rate but not to actually share. They also seem to want to jump in the taxi for free "it's not costing any more to have me in there with you" etc, etc.

If I'm paying per person and not everyone is sharing rooms, I'm expecting my own private room and my DH to have his own private room too. It's what single people expect for that cost, why not me and DH too? Why am I entitled to less than my fellow travellers (or to pay more) because I happen to be in a relationship?

The total cost of the villa should be split equally between the guests. Rooms are irrelevant.

It’s not about just the room, when you’re booking a house/villa you’re paying for access to the whole of the accommodation.

Nobody is buying half of anything, you’re paying for your place in the accommodation.

Couples with typically two incomes shouldn’t expect to get something for half the price a solo person does, they should both pay their way. It’s selfish and greedy to think solo people should subsidise their trip.