To believe that eating meat should be illegal?

I’m a meat eater and privileged enough to buy from a local farm shop. Not everyone can for a variety of reasons. I have no issue with anyone raising ethical concerns about certain aspects of farming.

I take major issue with citing environmental and climate change as one of the primary factors behind meat being ‘banned’/bad. It’s yet another example of zooming in on 1 piece of an entire supply chain and determining that 1 thing is better - whilst ignoring everything up and downstream of it - or the alternative implication it would cause.

Anyone doing this completely loses their argument.

Not the best design on the part of nature if so. You'd be hard pushed to use them to tear into unbutchered uncooked animal flesh.

Yes, that's what we have teeth for.

Yes, that's what we have teeth for.

The solution is surely to have less cattle? Even if methane per head of cattle were falling, this is no good ad long as total numbers of cattle are accelerating globally. In recent years, methane emissions are rising, despite the industry's presentation of 'carbon free cows' as a solution.

All this narrative does is frame methane-producing cows as 'the problem'. When the actual problem is the unethical and wholly unsustainable nature of industrial farming itself and the consumer habits that supposedly justify it.

Yes we do need to decide do better. Which is why massively reducing methane from cattle is a good thing, and not a bad one, and people need to be less hysterical about that.

@HipMax - ok so you have nothing in terms of information to offer to the discussion beyond accusing people of. "making a huge fuss... spreading lies and hysteria." But you can't actually say why or what about.

I do not think meat eating should be 'banned' by the way. That's not practical. However, drawing attention to the ethical issues of industrial farming, not to mention the environmental / climate impact is not 'hysterical.' It is basic fact, whether you eat meat or not. Humanity needs to do much better.

It's not necessary for every individual to hunt their own meat, any more than it's necessary or practical for every individual to build their own home, or perform their own surgery. Human beings specialise, that's how we got ahead of other species. And 'nature' is not a sentient being with a mind or intentions.

what’s an animal lover, practically? How can anyone actively love all animals?

"Nature" never intended individuals to "hunt it themselves".

We are omnivores and we eat meat.

How we organise society to provide that meat is not and never has been dictated by nature.

The OP has been banned for being a Mrs Goady McGoad-Arse, so we'll never get our answers... 😢

pritty good way, then little resistance as its not being banned

Go hunt it yourself then like nature intended.

Do you want to explain why,while discussing hysterical language, you instantly pretended I wanted to ban discussion, thereby amply proving my point?

Exactly.

Yet the OP has not responded to my or several posters comments on the environmental impact and impracticality of this in the UK.

Eats, shoots, and leaves.

Do you have any actual relevant information to share @HipMax ?

No. Who said anything about banning anything? Not me.
It's less an interesting choice and more and accurate one

You sound pretty hysterical ranting about rivers and chickens when your point was about cows and farts.

Was it 'hysteria' a couple of years ago when the River Wye turned a weird bright green and thick with algae and the whole river ecosystem changed irreversibly? It was caused by waste from the intensive chicken farms in Shropshire and Powys, even though the industries tried to deny it as long as they could, as did the supermarkets who relied on these suppliers. They denied snd deflected for years before being forced to take action.

OP - dream on. 🤷‍♀️🙄. No one much cares about your views on meat eating, so it’ll never be illegal 👍👍👍

Where I come from mulch is rotted down vegetable matter ie green fertiliser.

'Hysteria' @HipMax? Interesting choice of descriptor.

Do you think people should be banned from voicing concerns about industrial farming practices?

You obviously don't know what mulch is, if you think it answers that question in any way

No, people are as usual making a huge fuss about things they don't understand, spreading lies and hysteria

It's on LBC radio this hour about how (Arla?) cows are being given 'anti-flatulence' drugs to reduce methane. People are boycotting the products from this dairy, as the drugs are being transferred to humans in milk / beef.

As I said earlier, emissions from the beef / dairy industry exceed the impact of the global airline industry in terms of global warming. And that's quite aside from the wholly unethical practices involved in intensive farming. There's only so long people can say "I don't care" and try to deflect by framing vegans as blue-haired, human-hating radicals blah blah blah, Everyone is going to have to reckon with this soon enough.