To believe that eating meat should be illegal?

A lot of (probably most) vegan food is massively processed. Look at the ingredients - half the stuff on sale isn't even really 'food.' A piece of chicken or fish is much better for us than a weirdly artificial 'sausage' or 'phish' or some random piece of vegan protein. Humans are designed to be omnivores - we're not designed to live on synthesised pea protein. There's quite a lot of scientific research suggesting ultra-processed food is (at least partly) responsible for the obesity crisis.

Also, you can't produce the volume of food needed for a pure vegan diet in the UK and natural habitats are destroyed to do this (eg for soy bean crops) and there's the environmental impact of transporting the stuff. I'm not convinced that a vegan diet is better for the planet (or the people on it) than eating a locally-sourced, natural diet.

I do eat meat but try to limit it. I have switched to oatmilk and am looking to stop eating meat and all products.

I hate thngs like 'Happy Meals' at MDs it is horrible to kill so many animals and then market it to children in this way.

How can we be civilised, if eat animals when there are now viable alternatives.

I have respect for people who look after their own animals and then kill them as they have a connection to what they are doing and they do feel the weight of their actions.

We used to pray and be thankful for what we ate now we pick up a burger at a drive through without a second thought to the animal we are eating.

YANBU OP.

Veganism, it's a big missed steak.

What a ridiculous idea.

Historically the rich have always eaten the best meat...whilst the poor are left with the grains and veg.

There's a reason for that

I'd rather see all the processed crap that's sold in supermarkets banned first. All that manufacturing, packaging and transportation is damaging the environment, not to mention the damage it's doing to peoples' bodies. Far worse than my piece of beef I buy from my local butcher. Replacing real meat with manufactured meat lookalikes isn't going to help anyone.

But I really like the odd lamb roast or chicken curry .
And freedom to choose.

IDK... I bet the OP would taste quite nice if her wish to ban animal meat was implemented 😎

It's been documented that some people have resumed meat eating after years of veganism as they became ill from not having meat in their diet. I know I become ill without red meat.

Oh yes. Having meat only available for the rich while the poor are priced out (while presumably being the ones farming, processing and selling the meat) is a wonderful and ethical plan.

I suppose you could cut out (cut up) the middle man as it were and just eat the underclass? Win win.

Veganism should be illegal. All those 'environmentalists' buggering the planet to process some form of microprotien or tofu into stuff that is shaped and made to taste/look like the meat or fish they apparently are trying to avoid.

At least vegetarians admit they don't want meat, and can do fabulous things with pulses, lentils and veg (oh, and proper dairy products) and are less likely to be flavouring and shaping stuff into meat/fish substitutes.

I'm vegetarian but don't think the government should pass laws about what people eat.
I certainly think that people eat too much processed crap nowadays but I put that down to not teaching Domestic Science in schools any more.

Yeah, I’m not keen on pets, either.

I'm also allergic to all nuts, most beans, lentils, chickpeas etc. So I'd be very very unwell if I couldn't eat animal products.

Is this a persuasive writing topic for GCSE English?

I think pets should be banned. Why do we anthropomorphise one set of animals, treat them like kings, and slaughter many others, just so that our chosen ones may live. I am all for weaning ourselves of this notion of animal ownership and dominance. I think it would be better for everyone and all animals all round.

And would mean no dog poo on the streets either. Win win.

Thankfully this is a million years from happening, which ever party did this would lose the next election and be out for a decade or more. I for one don’t want to live in a state that thinks they can control our lives to this degree, and anyway meat taste brilliant.

And even the plants themselves have to be killed for us to eat them. I know they don't have faces (although corn has ears and potatoes have eyes) and probably don't feel pain or enjoyment of life in the same way that animals do, but it's still incumbent on us to rip the life away from other living organisms that cannot consent to our killing them if we ourselves want to continue to survive.

But only furry cute animals though?

the beetles and flies, mice and moles can fuck off?

Nah. Reconstituted bug meal will be a perfectly adequate source of protein without the environmental harm

Cheap, mass produced meat should be curtailed and small local farms, with ethical farming practices should be encouraged. The cost implications would drive a reduction in overall consumption and the environmental impact would reduce. but outlawing meat altogether seems exceptionally unlikely

If your intent is to kill off a lot of humans, including entire cultures.....I guess you could.

Not seeing the moral superiority in genocide, but perhaps someone could explain.

Yes, OP.
In that case, I would make sex illegal as well.
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Are you going to make it illegal for all animals to hunt also? Make a little cat prison for the mouse catchers?

We've eaten meat since we first evolved. Ecosystems depend on hunter to pray ratios. If we stop eating them the cows, sheep etc will have to be slaughtered and just wasted. You can't set them free, they're domesticated. They don't have the skills to survive and if they did there would be too many of them for the food available. They'd starve to death and population crash. The predators that would hunt them would balloon in number then crash as well.

People don't realise deer hunting etc is targeted to control population levels so there aren't too many which would encourage spread of diseases and starvation from lack of food.

What we need is sustainability.

I agree, I don't think there's anything wrong with eating meat either. But as a population we are heavily reliant on the luxury of industrially farmed low welfare meat. You only have to look at what's on offer in the meat aisle to see endless bloated chicken breasts with brusing, bleeding or discolouration to realise how shocking it all is. And I eat chicken, because its convenient, lean, low cost and everyone likes it. Do I think many people have the time, knowledge and inclination to go out and start killing what - foxes and rabbits and pigeons? I don't think so. I think they'll just go to the same aisle and buy whatever cost effective, bland protein they put there instead. The wealthy will continue to eat venison but this was never an environmental or welfare concern in the first instance. To return to Morriseys argument, he might contend that nobody would seriously entertain the argument that there's no point in outlawing child abuse because it happens anyway. It would of course happen anyway. But why on earth wouldn't we take a measure to significantly reduce the sum total of suffering.

No vegan that I know thinks this. We think they would simply stop being bred. There may be pockets of fields with some sheep and cows and pigs, and a few chickens too, but on the whole, the country won't be overrun with wild once-were-farmed animals.

So would 100% of the population be able to be totally vegan with no need for supplements?