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Why is it not illegal to cheat on someone

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Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:17

I don’t want to give too many details. I found it pretty traumatising to be lied to. The person went on about how great of a person they were and how they weren’t like other guys. They acted like they cared about me and would be supportive of me. They were exactly like the “other guys” they described, they were a cheat with a number of others waiting in line, got with someone new every 5-6 months and I was nothing special like they’d made me out to be. I found it really traumatising and have trust issues because of it. They really rushed things and then moved on and I never saw them again. They turned on me and started being really nasty towards me. It feels like emotional whiplash. I know it wasn’t my fault but I don’t understand why these men do it

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Tandora · 09/02/2025 17:12

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:23

It's a legal contract about a relationship.yes.

So people could design their own contracts for their relationships if they wanted.

People could sit down and make a contract before they get into a relationship with someone.

Marriage is a unique contact - it gives you certain rights/ entitlements/ status with regard to the state / government (eg tax breaks etc) . it’s not just like any old private contract that two people consent to. So no your suggestion wouldn’t / shouldn’t be equivalent.

JHound · 09/02/2025 17:10

Also OP there were a number of red flags you chose to overlook. Men who are genuinely great do not feel the need to say that

And men who say “they are not like other guys” are exactly like other guys.

I know this sucks, and I hate that dating is harder than it needs to be because of filth like the guy you have just experienced. But you cannot legislate against that.

Just find ways of dealing with and hopefully he will get a papercut everyday for the rest of his life.

NoSoupForU · 09/02/2025 17:02

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:42

I think an arranged marriage , where she can't leave, is a bit different to a man shagging round for fun

How so? She was committing adultery. If adultery was to be made a crime, she'd be guilty of it.

What about non arranged marriages where a spouse is abusive? Or has health issues like dementia? Or a million other scenarios. Some people cheat because they can. Others do it because their current situation is making them miserable but they can't leave it.

123ZYX · 09/02/2025 16:58

It clearly isn't a practical idea, but I can see the argument

  • if I'm married to someone, I have tied myself financial to them. If I did that in a business context, I would have certain financial protections - why shouldn't I have protection from being worse off if the other half of the agreement broke that contract?
  • if I am having sex with someone, I have given that consent on the basis that they are not having sex with anyone else for emotional and also health reasons. If someone cheated on me and I had known, I wouldn't have sex with with them and I would ensure that this known to the other partner in the relationship. If they cheat, then have sex with with, it would effectively be without my consent because all parties know that consent is only given on the understanding that the relationship is exclusive
ItGhoul · 09/02/2025 16:57

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:20

I’m asking because it can cause a lot of damage to the women that it happens to.it’s like emotional assault

With respect: you need to buck up and stop wallowing in this.

Yes, it’s hurtful. No, it shouldn’t be considered a criminal offence to upset someone.

Tandora · 09/02/2025 16:50

YABU.

There are lots of countries where adultery is illegal though- like Saudi Arabia- , so you could always emigrate to one of those if you think it’s better for women.

Gwenhwyfar · 09/02/2025 16:46

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:34

Well sexually transmitted diseases cause a lot of damages.

If a man cheats, a woman could sue for damages, as he is risking her health by potentially passing on an STI.

My friend actually got cheated on recently and her boyfriend gave her a sexually transmitted disease

Yes, but the question is could she really sue for damages?
Loads of people gave each other COVID. Could they really have sued each other for it if, for example, they could prove neglect like not wearing a mask, not taking a test? I think it would be very hard to do.

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:42

NoSoupForU · 09/02/2025 16:35

A million years ago, I managed a hotel. I had couples who'd come fairly regularly and spend an afternoon together. One of the ladies I saw once when I was doing my shopping. She was with her husband and children. The man was not the man she came to my hotel with.

Over time I got chatting to this woman and discovered that her marriage was an arranged one, in which she had no say whatsoever. Divorce wasn't an option for her and she truly loved the man she was meeting. They came for the entire time I managed the hotel, so several years. Her husband treated her badly, and she was desperately unhappy with him.

And you'd have her criminalised?

I'm sorry you've been hurt. But hurt feelings shouldn't constitute a crime. People do shitty things for all manner of reasons. It's easy to take a black and white view of it when you're the victim, but the reality is very different.

I think an arranged marriage , where she can't leave, is a bit different to a man shagging round for fun

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:42

NoSoupForU · 09/02/2025 16:35

A million years ago, I managed a hotel. I had couples who'd come fairly regularly and spend an afternoon together. One of the ladies I saw once when I was doing my shopping. She was with her husband and children. The man was not the man she came to my hotel with.

Over time I got chatting to this woman and discovered that her marriage was an arranged one, in which she had no say whatsoever. Divorce wasn't an option for her and she truly loved the man she was meeting. They came for the entire time I managed the hotel, so several years. Her husband treated her badly, and she was desperately unhappy with him.

And you'd have her criminalised?

I'm sorry you've been hurt. But hurt feelings shouldn't constitute a crime. People do shitty things for all manner of reasons. It's easy to take a black and white view of it when you're the victim, but the reality is very different.

I think an arranged marriage , where she can't leave, is a bit different to a man shagging round for fun

SprinkleOfSunak · 09/02/2025 16:40

I agree with you op, it should be illegal.

It wouldn’t stop adultery, but I’m sure it’d reduce it. Imagine how many murders would be committed without fear of imprisonment?

NoSoupForU · 09/02/2025 16:40

onceuponatimelived · 09/02/2025 13:36

It is in places that the Western media deems as backwards and oppressive?

Oh that’s fine then, just let your women get cheated on without repercussions. But it’s those women that media bodies scream are being oppressed and lack freedom/rights? The ones that have governments that protect them by ensuring adultery does not go unpunished.

The West is backwards and always has been and only uneducated, ignorant people feel superior to the truth.

There is only one truth.

But oh, free will, right?

Out of interest, do you suppose proportionately more men or women are punished under those laws in those places?

NoSoupForU · 09/02/2025 16:35

A million years ago, I managed a hotel. I had couples who'd come fairly regularly and spend an afternoon together. One of the ladies I saw once when I was doing my shopping. She was with her husband and children. The man was not the man she came to my hotel with.

Over time I got chatting to this woman and discovered that her marriage was an arranged one, in which she had no say whatsoever. Divorce wasn't an option for her and she truly loved the man she was meeting. They came for the entire time I managed the hotel, so several years. Her husband treated her badly, and she was desperately unhappy with him.

And you'd have her criminalised?

I'm sorry you've been hurt. But hurt feelings shouldn't constitute a crime. People do shitty things for all manner of reasons. It's easy to take a black and white view of it when you're the victim, but the reality is very different.

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:34

Gwenhwyfar · 09/02/2025 16:30

"A woman could easily sit a man down and get him to sign a contract saying "if you get in a relationship with me you cannot have sex with anyone else".
Then if he breaks the contract, she can sue him for damages."

If divorce is now no-fault, you cannot divorce on the grounds of adultery, how would it make sense to sue for cheating if not married. I'm not sure the contract would be valid. Otherwise you could make a washing up contract and sue someone for not doing the washing up or whatever...

Well sexually transmitted diseases cause a lot of damages.

If a man cheats, a woman could sue for damages, as he is risking her health by potentially passing on an STI.

My friend actually got cheated on recently and her boyfriend gave her a sexually transmitted disease

Hankunamatata · 09/02/2025 16:33

Namerchangee · 09/02/2025 13:18

Erm… free will?

Yep

Rosscameasdoody · 09/02/2025 16:33

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:11

It doesn't make sense really.

Why is it illegal to get married to two women at the same time.

But it's not illegal to be in a relationship with two women at the same time.

Because marriage is a legal contract you enter into voluntarily, knowing the terms - ie you can only marry one person at a time. To be illegal to be in a relationship with two different partners would require a legal definition of ‘relationship’ and would negate free will. This thread is batshit.

Chersfrozenface · 09/02/2025 16:31

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:23

It's a legal contract about a relationship.yes.

So people could design their own contracts for their relationships if they wanted.

People could sit down and make a contract before they get into a relationship with someone.

That would create a whole new field in contract law.

What would the consequences be? Damages? How would a contract be terminated if one party wished to end it. And proving breach of contract could get interesting.

It would make lots of work for lawyers.

Gwenhwyfar · 09/02/2025 16:30

"A woman could easily sit a man down and get him to sign a contract saying "if you get in a relationship with me you cannot have sex with anyone else".
Then if he breaks the contract, she can sue him for damages."

If divorce is now no-fault, you cannot divorce on the grounds of adultery, how would it make sense to sue for cheating if not married. I'm not sure the contract would be valid. Otherwise you could make a washing up contract and sue someone for not doing the washing up or whatever...

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:28

Waterweight · 09/02/2025 16:26

Because marriage has rights & responsibilities (next of kin (health ect.)/financial/social expectation)

While saying is just that. Dating

Yes laws around marriage & de-facto relationships should change but cheating being illegal would be ridiculous

Cheating being illegal is not going to happen.

But I can see people starting to make their own relationship contracts, and then suing the man for breach of contract.

People get sued for everything these days.

A woman could easily sit a man down and get him to sign a contract saying "if you get in a relationship with me you cannot have sex with anyone else".

Then if he breaks the contract, she can sue him for damages.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 09/02/2025 16:28

And what would you class as cheating.. sex? Kiss? Holding hands?

Rosscameasdoody · 09/02/2025 16:28

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:20

I’m asking because it can cause a lot of damage to the women that it happens to.it’s like emotional assault

And women cheat too.

Waterweight · 09/02/2025 16:26

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:11

It doesn't make sense really.

Why is it illegal to get married to two women at the same time.

But it's not illegal to be in a relationship with two women at the same time.

Because marriage has rights & responsibilities (next of kin (health ect.)/financial/social expectation)

While saying is just that. Dating

Yes laws around marriage & de-facto relationships should change but cheating being illegal would be ridiculous

TemporaryPosition · 09/02/2025 16:26

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:23

It's a legal contract about a relationship.yes.

So people could design their own contracts for their relationships if they wanted.

People could sit down and make a contract before they get into a relationship with someone.

Bizarre. In what ways would this contract diverge from a marriage contract?

TemporaryPosition · 09/02/2025 16:25

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:11

It doesn't make sense really.

Why is it illegal to get married to two women at the same time.

But it's not illegal to be in a relationship with two women at the same time.

Because a marriage is a contract. And a 'relationship' is not, and can mean anything.

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:23

IHateBakedBeans · 09/02/2025 16:21

Because a marriage is a legal contract?

It's a legal contract about a relationship.yes.

So people could design their own contracts for their relationships if they wanted.

People could sit down and make a contract before they get into a relationship with someone.

IHateBakedBeans · 09/02/2025 16:21

Briannaco · 09/02/2025 16:11

It doesn't make sense really.

Why is it illegal to get married to two women at the same time.

But it's not illegal to be in a relationship with two women at the same time.

Because a marriage is a legal contract?

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