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Why is it not illegal to cheat on someone

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Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:17

I don’t want to give too many details. I found it pretty traumatising to be lied to. The person went on about how great of a person they were and how they weren’t like other guys. They acted like they cared about me and would be supportive of me. They were exactly like the “other guys” they described, they were a cheat with a number of others waiting in line, got with someone new every 5-6 months and I was nothing special like they’d made me out to be. I found it really traumatising and have trust issues because of it. They really rushed things and then moved on and I never saw them again. They turned on me and started being really nasty towards me. It feels like emotional whiplash. I know it wasn’t my fault but I don’t understand why these men do it

OP posts:
somewhereinsuburbia · 09/02/2025 20:57

With infidelity, isn't it the lying part that hurts though? I always used the example of a secret gambling addiction or substance use, it's the same as cheating, no better no worse, as the lies and deception are what really hurt, and the fact that you are made to feel that you aren't enough for them.

Nevertrustacop · 09/02/2025 20:55

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:17

I don’t want to give too many details. I found it pretty traumatising to be lied to. The person went on about how great of a person they were and how they weren’t like other guys. They acted like they cared about me and would be supportive of me. They were exactly like the “other guys” they described, they were a cheat with a number of others waiting in line, got with someone new every 5-6 months and I was nothing special like they’d made me out to be. I found it really traumatising and have trust issues because of it. They really rushed things and then moved on and I never saw them again. They turned on me and started being really nasty towards me. It feels like emotional whiplash. I know it wasn’t my fault but I don’t understand why these men do it

I don't understand why this wasn't your fault? You put up the boundaries to protect yourself from other people. You certainly can't expect anyone else to take responsibility for that! And having sex with lots of people is a perfectly valid lifestyle. Monogamy is not compulsory.

LeavesOnTrees · 09/02/2025 20:47

onceuponatimelived · 09/02/2025 13:42

Oh, look, a racist who can’t handle diversity in opinions has found mumsnet.

This will NOT be interesting, move along.

Au contraire, I love the diversity of opinions on Mumnset.

It would be very interesting to hear from someone who lives in a country where it is illegal and find out how it works in practical terms.
Does it discourage cheating ? How do the police cope with couples just arguing and accusing eachother?

BadSil · 09/02/2025 19:22

NeedToChangeName · 09/02/2025 18:16

It wasn't a serious suggestion

But I do think that (1) our society makes it easy for people to enter relationships and difficult to end them and (2) would better if it were the other way round

Better for who and why? Women have been advantaged hugely by being able to more easily leave relationships.

Addeline · 09/02/2025 19:21

It’s horrible how some behave towards others. It’s taken me decades to work out that not everyone is the same. Some are just narcissists with no empathy at all. I wish someone had spelled this out for me around age 10.

Ariesburn · 09/02/2025 19:17

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:17

I don’t want to give too many details. I found it pretty traumatising to be lied to. The person went on about how great of a person they were and how they weren’t like other guys. They acted like they cared about me and would be supportive of me. They were exactly like the “other guys” they described, they were a cheat with a number of others waiting in line, got with someone new every 5-6 months and I was nothing special like they’d made me out to be. I found it really traumatising and have trust issues because of it. They really rushed things and then moved on and I never saw them again. They turned on me and started being really nasty towards me. It feels like emotional whiplash. I know it wasn’t my fault but I don’t understand why these men do it

I totally get this. I'm not fully over my ex husband betraying me, I have since had issues with trust and question and over think everything, I have this barrier up and I don't think it will ever go down properly.

He was the same said he wouldn't do it to me blah blah blah but he ended up doing it and it was only months after we got married. I feel he stole my big day because actually it was all a lie. They don't understand the damage they do to someone. It destroys you as a whole.

blackbirdsingingoutside · 09/02/2025 19:16

Op betrayal is shit, it fucking hurts. My ex DH lived a double life. I don't hate him now but yeah it's bloody changed me forever, I don't trust anyone 100% anymore, maybe I never should have anyway. With time and distance things become less black and white though.

Uricon2 · 09/02/2025 19:15

Miratea · 09/02/2025 19:01

I want to make it clear I don’t advocate for sharia law nor do I want people in abusive relationships to be trapped.
I didn’t think this through very well

You didn't but hopefully can see the other angles now.

I'm sorry you're been hurt. I think perhaps you've been too trusting of what someone said about themselves and as others have correctly pointed out, bigging up your own morality is a red flag. It is all a learning curve and you can put this behind you and go on to have better things. Flowers

blackbirdsingingoutside · 09/02/2025 19:14

OonaStubbs · 09/02/2025 15:35

The law isn't there to prevent feelings from being hurt.

Give it time.

Andante57 · 09/02/2025 19:12

Octavia64 · Today 13:25
It used to be, if you were married

Rather surprisingly adultery was illegal in S Korea until 2015 - i think it was a law brought in during the Korean War when husbands and wives were split up while the man was away fighting.
However I’m not sure how many adulterers were actually prosecuted in recent years.

Miratea · 09/02/2025 19:01

I want to make it clear I don’t advocate for sharia law nor do I want people in abusive relationships to be trapped.
I didn’t think this through very well

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crankytoes · 09/02/2025 18:57

@Briannaco

If a man cheats, a woman could sue for damages, as he is risking her health by potentially passing on an STI.
Again, stop with the man being the cheat. If we are talking about vegetal cheating the rates are very similar between men and women. Why not say 'if a person cheats' ?

crankytoes · 09/02/2025 18:55

@Briannaco

I think an arranged marriage , where she can't leave, is a bit different to a man shagging round for fun
So you accept all cheating is not the same then. How exactly would this sharia law type penalty account for this?

crankytoes · 09/02/2025 18:52

@BunnyLake

But who is the wronged spouse that you 100% agree should be criminalised? The one who had the affair or the other one who liked to beat up or verbally, financially and emotionally abuse and terrorise the spouse who met someone else?
You must be new around here. This is mumsnet where all cheaters are scum. Where there are no mitigating circumstances and where cheating is the worst crime known to humanity. Close in fact to child abuse.

I have always suspected it's because people know deep in their soul that it could happen to them. Especially people who are no longer sexually involved with their partners. So they vilify cheaters to an abnormal degree compared to almost any other action again person.

CruCru · 09/02/2025 18:52

The problem is, it’s difficult to prove that a boyfriend cheated but it’s also difficult to prove that he was a “proper” boyfriend, not just someone you were casually seeing.

If a man took offence because you weren’t interested in him, he could go to the police to tell them that he was your boyfriend and you were cheating on him. Or he could just be a loon who believes that you are his girlfriend because you smiled at him in the supermarket (there are nutty people in this world).

NeedToChangeName · 09/02/2025 18:16

CheezePleeze · 09/02/2025 15:26

Vetted by whom?

What would the cost be and how long would the wait take until someone gives you the ok to date them?

It wasn't a serious suggestion

But I do think that (1) our society makes it easy for people to enter relationships and difficult to end them and (2) would better if it were the other way round

EG94 · 09/02/2025 18:01

I think therapy is the answer to your feelings. There’s some shit people in the world who do some shit things but emotional resilience is built and learnt.

BunnyLake · 09/02/2025 17:57

superplumb · 09/02/2025 17:26

Agree 100 %

But who is the wronged spouse that you 100% agree should be criminalised? The one who had the affair or the other one who liked to beat up or verbally, financially and emotionally abuse and terrorise the spouse who met someone else?

BabyFever246 · 09/02/2025 17:57

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:56

What’s the point in being in a relationship if you’re just going to cheat Or leave them when you get your head turned

I believe that is the point of being in a relationship rather than committing to that person by marrying them. Relationship is a relationship. No legal standing. Historically dating is simply a way of finding out if someone is who you want to marry. If someone turns your head then the first person wasn't the one you want to marry and on you move.

JHound · 09/02/2025 17:55

I would like it to be far more socially stigmatised though.

Currently being a cheating rat is seen as no big deal.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 09/02/2025 17:38

Tandora · 09/02/2025 17:12

Marriage is a unique contact - it gives you certain rights/ entitlements/ status with regard to the state / government (eg tax breaks etc) . it’s not just like any old private contract that two people consent to. So no your suggestion wouldn’t / shouldn’t be equivalent.

Can you imagine the length of the contract terms from some parties?

You agree that you will not -

Acknowledge the existence of colleagues
Work in an office with a closed door
Speak regarding anything other than specific work subjects
Converse about music, films, current affairs, cats, dogs, children, hobbies, television, history, education, other colleagues, workload, procedures not directly related to the immediate task at hand
Make eye contact
Smile
Speak pleasantly and politely
Laugh at something funny
Request advice or assistance with work tasks outside the specific remit of the current contract
Acknowledge distress in the other party
Demonstrate any concern for their wellbeing or health
Communicate outside working hours
Communicate inside working hours
Attend work social events
Eat in the staff room
Chat about anything
Signpost to support for abuse and coercive control
Think positive thoughts about a colleague
Wear clothing that the other party deems to be aesthetically pleasing
Maintain standards of bodily hygiene and appearance
Smile at anybody of the opposite or same sex or gender
Allow workmen into the home without permission and supervision of either the spouse or an appointed representative who will not be spoken to under any circumstances
Look at anybody on social media, film, TV, news or of personal acquaintance
Like any posts on social media
Leave the home with washed hair, brushed hair, makeup, nails over 0.1mm long from the nailbed or wear footwear that exposes the toes in any manner, particularly if nail polish is being worn
Remove any body or facial hair
Show any interest in altering body mass index or levels of strength or fitness
Draw attention to oneself in any manner, whether through behaviour, clothing and other adornments or simply my allowing oneself to be observed whilst having a body and personality
Apply for employment outside the home or inside where persons of the opposite or same sex are permitted to contact them
To improve qualification levels
Be outside the home after dusk
Be outside during the day
Fail to return immediately to the home after depositing children at school
To allow a medical professional of any sex or gender to examine or treat any part of the body or speak to them without a trustworthy chaperone holding the specific permission of the spouse

All of these are used as 'reasons' to accuse people of having affairs - the 'emotional affair' label is given where it would probably be sufficient to term it a Thought Crime in many cases (and just batshit coercive control in others).

An anusers' charter.

JHound · 09/02/2025 17:33

DeepFatFried · 09/02/2025 13:33

I think there is a serious issue over consent:
Say you really like someone, dating them, they tell you they are single. Then once you have been in a sexual relationship you find out they are married and living at home with children . And you would never consented to sex had you known the truth.

We need to build this into discussion with teens.

But it would be very hard to criminalise and police.

Though what happened about the women who entered long term relationships with undercover police infiltrating New Age traveller activists? I think they were paid compensation / damages?

Yep “theft of consent” I call that.

superplumb · 09/02/2025 17:26

HowDoYouSolveAProblemLikeMyRear · 09/02/2025 13:25

I wouldn't object to adultery being illegal.

I certainly think that proven adultery should be taken into account when splitting assets in a divorce, in favour of the wronged spouse.

Agree 100 %

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 09/02/2025 17:26

Miratea · 09/02/2025 13:20

I’m asking because it can cause a lot of damage to the women that it happens to.it’s like emotional assault

And men too. A sexist comment op.

JHound · 09/02/2025 17:14

Were you actually in a relationship with them OP.

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