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billysboy · 2025-02-09T12:18:15+00:00

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ? you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes Every month that goes by the shortage compounds I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2025 08:59

I heard on the news that only France and Sweden agreed with Starmer's proposals yesterday. Is that right? So Germany, Spain and Italy said no??

marshmallowmix · 18/02/2025 08:59

Exactly our young people shouldn’t be anywhere near there 🤔he is an idiot they all are it’s scary!!

EasternStandard · 18/02/2025 08:40

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 13:59

Bless. One minute you've built a firewall of cats to keep out dissenters out of your safe space and the next minute you are hawkishly cheering on Starmer as he takes off his glasses and dresses up for war. Must be dizzying.

The concerning part is how quickly the support happens

And what that means when more is needed, for young people specifically

Whatafustercluck · 18/02/2025 08:31

Felizsenora · 17/02/2025 22:07

Oh please. What % voted fot Labour again?

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The FPTP voting system didn't just suddenly happen in 2024, it's been around since the middle ages 😂 Admittedly, it's probably time for a change, but the fact that it favoured Labour this time is really no different to it having favoured other parties in the past. That's our current voting system, like it or not.

Felizsenora · 17/02/2025 22:07

Whatafustercluck · 17/02/2025 20:41

Well Corbyn tried it and couldn't unify the Labour Party. Starmer may have won by 'default' as you put it, but don't underestimate the leadership skills required to unify a (at that time) divided, discordant, dysfunctional Labour Party for long enough to win an election.

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Oh please. What % voted fot Labour again?

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 22:05

The Supreme Court has rejected Reeves' attemp to intervene on banks having to pay out on dodgy car loans. Lloyds share price fell 4% on Monday.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8636e7xq5eo

EasternStandard · 17/02/2025 20:45

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/02/2025 19:52

Well, some posters here will be happy.

It was suggested that he needs his Falklands by some.

So concerning to see the posts today

Tg for you guys on this thread. And some calm from Germany

Whatafustercluck · 17/02/2025 20:41

Felizsenora · 17/02/2025 10:49

Labour "won" by default. Stärmer is not a leader. So yes Labour won, but almost anyone could have been leader.

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Well Corbyn tried it and couldn't unify the Labour Party. Starmer may have won by 'default' as you put it, but don't underestimate the leadership skills required to unify a (at that time) divided, discordant, dysfunctional Labour Party for long enough to win an election.

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 20:38

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 20:13

No problem. It's just a bit unsettling, isn't it?

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Yes it is. Let's hope Sholz tells Starmer to shut up and get back in his box until they know exactly what they're dealing with. The world could look very different in a few weeks time. Cool heads needed.

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 20:13

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 19:49

Thanks for the updates today @Upstartled

No problem. It's just a bit unsettling, isn't it?

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 17/02/2025 19:52

Well, some posters here will be happy.

It was suggested that he needs his Falklands by some.

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 19:49

Thanks for the updates today @Upstartled

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 19:38

I expect warmongering doesn't sell well at the polls a week out from a g.e. and the appetite of the electorate to send their children off to Russia has a material consequence.

EasternStandard · 17/02/2025 19:29

Starmer is going for political capital up against dire polling

Scholz is much more considered tg

Germany will matter more on this

marshmallowmix · 17/02/2025 19:29

Starmer needs to step back …

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 19:17

marshmallowmix · 17/02/2025 19:05

It is v complex and I don’t see Putin backing down re Ukraine wanting to join NATO…

No he won't. But Starmer wants to poke the fucking Bear!

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 19:16

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 18:59

Scholz is clearly pissed off:

"Olaf Scholz, the German Chancellor, has said that calls to send peacekeepers to Ukraine are “completely premature” and “highly inappropriate” while the war is ongoing.
“I am even a little irritated by these debates, I want to say that quite frankly,” he told reporters on Monday.
“The discussion is being held over Ukraine’s heads, over the outcome of peace talks that have not taken place and to which Ukraine has not said yes and where it has not sat at the table,” he added.
“This is highly inappropriate, to put it quite frankly and honestly. We do not know what the outcome will be.”

Sholz is right. This is not the right time. Starmer needs to do the same and STFU. Instead he's making stupid comments about sending troops and Nato to grab headlines and pissing everybody off, including other European leaders it would seem.

EasternStandard · 17/02/2025 19:07

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 18:59

Scholz is clearly pissed off:

"Olaf Scholz, the German Chancellor, has said that calls to send peacekeepers to Ukraine are “completely premature” and “highly inappropriate” while the war is ongoing.
“I am even a little irritated by these debates, I want to say that quite frankly,” he told reporters on Monday.
“The discussion is being held over Ukraine’s heads, over the outcome of peace talks that have not taken place and to which Ukraine has not said yes and where it has not sat at the table,” he added.
“This is highly inappropriate, to put it quite frankly and honestly. We do not know what the outcome will be.”

Thanks for this. At last something to counter the pro posts today.

marshmallowmix · 17/02/2025 19:05

It is v complex and I don’t see Putin backing down re Ukraine wanting to join NATO…

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 18:59

Scholz is clearly pissed off:

"Olaf Scholz, the German Chancellor, has said that calls to send peacekeepers to Ukraine are “completely premature” and “highly inappropriate” while the war is ongoing.
“I am even a little irritated by these debates, I want to say that quite frankly,” he told reporters on Monday.
“The discussion is being held over Ukraine’s heads, over the outcome of peace talks that have not taken place and to which Ukraine has not said yes and where it has not sat at the table,” he added.
“This is highly inappropriate, to put it quite frankly and honestly. We do not know what the outcome will be.”

Sherbs12 · 17/02/2025 18:53

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 14:27

There's a lot to unpack there @Sherbs12
I don't support Trump, or like Putin. I can see why the US don't want to continue paying for the war which is happening right next to the biggest trading bloc in the world.
If Europe wanted Ukraine to win, they should have made it happen when Russia invaded. They have had ample opportunity to do this over the last three years, they failed.
I don't think we can rely on unity across Europe on this issue as the right wing parties gaining ground are more likely to be sympathetic to Trump. Would the Afd or Le Pen support german/french troops going to Ukraine for example? The old guard of Europe are becoming obsolete.
We should increase defence spending, both main parties have been too complacent.

What do you think Sherbs? How do you think the UK should respond?

Yes, totally agree with you on the questionable unity of a European alliance and also the US reduction in NATO is unsurprising.
I have no straightforward solution for the UK; I’m very much reading and listening to all that I can. My instinct would always be negotiations and avoiding further conflict: but is this remotely realistic with Putin, Trump and the rights of Ukraine? Would this be enough to stop Putin? I have doubts.
It’s very uncertain times, and I agree that a ‘gung-ho’ approach needs to be avoided and I understand concerns over the loss of soldiers - it’s not difficult to understand why people are wary and cynical about. Is there is a threshold when this shifts, and if so, what is it?
As I said, no easy answers, and a very complex situation, but will time pressure to be decisive.

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 16:10

This is interesting. Oldham council have recently voted to demand a full public enquiry into child rape gangs. I wonder if Yvette Cooper will change course?
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr46yxnw1d1o

TheNuthatch · 17/02/2025 15:32

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 15:05

Anyway, looks like Germany isn't in and Poland is out. Spain, Italy and Norway are trying to look busy.

No surprises there

EasternStandard · 17/02/2025 15:27

Upstartled · 17/02/2025 15:05

Anyway, looks like Germany isn't in and Poland is out. Spain, Italy and Norway are trying to look busy.

Good. I hope they give it more consideration than the Labour stuff posted today

HPFA · 17/02/2025 15:09

All it needs for war to end is for Putin to take his troops home and stop killing Ukrainians.