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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 15:00

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 14:56

Are you joking, both Dowden and Gove have been absolutely slaughtered for their utter incompetence. Not just on forums and TV, do you ever read John Crace, he is hilarious

Doesnt anyone remember the utter shit show of the Brexit negotiations, it was so bad it was laughable and quite rightly they were crucified for it.

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They admitted later they had not understood Northern Ireland and the significance of the Good Friday agreement. Utter incompetence.

JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 14:59

@anyoneforhockey No that is not proof that as you so delightfully put it, Angela Rayner is thick as mince.
What it shows are two commentators repeating untruths, rubbishing clips of interviews with Rayner e.g. accusing her of being thick because she trots out the usual politician phrases.
You are accusing Angela Rayner of being thick because she is a working class woman. If she had a posh accent and had attended Roedean and Cambridge, you would take a very different tact.

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 14:56

sussexman · 09/02/2025 14:50

I don't recall anyone complaining about Oliver Dowden being an unsuitable deputy PM because being a spad and PR guy weren't good qualifications and experience, or about Michael Gove being unsuitable for Housing secretary since he was an author and journalist. The bile that Rayner
gets is 99% snobbery and misogyny.

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Are you joking, both Dowden and Gove have been absolutely slaughtered for their utter incompetence. Not just on forums and TV, do you ever read John Crace, he is hilarious

Doesnt anyone remember the utter shit show of the Brexit negotiations, it was so bad it was laughable and quite rightly they were crucified for it.

ThatFlyIsMySpiritAnimal · 09/02/2025 14:55

Making it easier to get planning permission will make fuck all difference. It’s already easy to get permission for housing development. The problem is developers land banking and building shitty overpriced houses when they eventually do build them. Also not enough planners thanks to all the cuts to local government.

Saggyknickers · 09/02/2025 14:55

soupyspoon · 09/02/2025 12:57

I dont disagree. I do hope yes
Im a labour voter and have been really disappointed so far, but I still hope

I also dont care if government ministers are denigrated if they havent done a good job, male or female. Thats my beef with a lot of the posts here.

Its dangerous to say you criticise those in power simply because they are female

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I agree.

AR has got off lightly with "Angela from accounts". And it's very important that female politicians are held to the same standards as men.

Labour voters don't seem to have a problem with denigrating Truss, May, Thatcher etc.

Applesonthelawn · 09/02/2025 14:54

She's way more savvy than him, so I doubt it.

Catsandcheese · 09/02/2025 14:53

It is so disappointing to see at title like this on a thread on a forum which is supposed to be supportive towards women.

It is weird on the one hand to read complaints that the government won't make their targets, yet on the other people whining about 'not in my back yard'.

I guess if they do build 1.49M houses they will have failed, yes?

Maybe brexit had a hand in reducing the construction workdforce, when you were voting for that did you all not realise what was going to happen? You were told...

sussexman · 09/02/2025 14:50

ruffler45 · 09/02/2025 14:37

Its not unreasonable to expect someone with the right qualifications and experience to be in the role.

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I don't recall anyone complaining about Oliver Dowden being an unsuitable deputy PM because being a spad and PR guy weren't good qualifications and experience, or about Michael Gove being unsuitable for Housing secretary since he was an author and journalist. The bile that Rayner
gets is 99% snobbery and misogyny.

Felicityjoy · 09/02/2025 14:47

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:22

Of course he has. She will be the fall guy. She’s a bit like Harris who was put in charge of the US border, when her handlers knew she had neither the intelligence, nor the political ability to get something like that done. Rayner is in same league.

Two Tier has his favourites. Rachel from accounts and Red Miliband. The former trashes the economy to give billions to the latter to piss up the wall. And the country just plunges deeper into oblivion.

Buckle up everyone. It’s gonna be a rough ride.

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You and your silly nicknames sound very childish. Did you think they sounded clever/amusing?

Salacia · 09/02/2025 14:44

Between these thread titles and posters falling over themselves to explain away nazi salutes mumsnet is really becoming the pit of vipers it was always accused of being.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 09/02/2025 14:44

Whether she meets the target or not labour will fail at delivering against their actual objective.

Availability of housing isn’t the issue in the uk, Cost is.

increasing supply which we have already been doing for years has (for various reasons) not reduced the cost so this is a pointless exercise up there with their equally asinine 2030 net zero carbon electricity

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 14:42

edwinbear · 09/02/2025 14:28

Jeremy Hunt regularly had the first initial of his surname replaced with a ‘C’. Nobody was up in arms about that.

@edwinbear the pp response to this made me laugh

There's no point in pp caring now if names have been used all along

MarzipanAndFrenchFancies · 09/02/2025 14:40

Very misogynistic nickname op.

MzHz · 09/02/2025 14:38

SpanThatWorld · 09/02/2025 12:19

YABU to recycle a snarky little insult used to belittle one woman so that you can belittle another.

Damned right! Why belittle a woman in a very important job when the previous occupants and their friends didn’t do well enough to keep it?

shame on the op @billysboy

ruffler45 · 09/02/2025 14:37

JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 14:24

Angela from Housing is a misogynistic way to label a Cabinet Minister and Deputy Prime Minister. Or maybe you do not think someone from a working class background should be allowed to have her post? Instead she should be Angela doing an admin role in a Housing office?

Its not unreasonable to expect someone with the right qualifications and experience to be in the role.

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 14:36

edwinbear · 09/02/2025 14:22

Bank of England February minutes here.

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/monetary-policy-summary-and-minutes/2025/monetary-policy-summary-and-minutes-february-2025.pdf

GDP growth forecast halved to 0.75%
Inflation up to 3.7%
Business and consumer confidence declined.
Business output growth deteriorated.
Productivity growth weaker than expected.

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There is no point giving them actual evidence. If they truly believe that, at this stage, Reeves hasn't tanked the economy then they are just willfully ignorant and a few facts aren't going to change their mind

thestudio · 09/02/2025 14:35

Misogynist.

JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 14:34

anyoneforhockey · 09/02/2025 14:34

@JoyousGreyOrca Or maybe you do not think someone from a working class background should be allowed to have her post?

Being 'working class' isn't the issue. It's because she's as thick as mince and can't string a sentence together.

'50p Lee' Anderson is 'working class' yet is pretty smart and can put together a decent argument.

She is an intelligent woman.
What evidence do you have she is thick?

anyoneforhockey · 09/02/2025 14:34

@JoyousGreyOrca Or maybe you do not think someone from a working class background should be allowed to have her post?

Being 'working class' isn't the issue. It's because she's as thick as mince and can't string a sentence together.

'50p Lee' Anderson is 'working class' yet is pretty smart and can put together a decent argument.

JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 14:30

We all know you think a working class woman should not be Deputy Prime Minister.

Tomorrowisanewday · 09/02/2025 14:30

As previous posters have said, planning permission is only part of the problem. I work in construction, and work on both private developments and developments for RSLs. Regardless of the sector that is being built (housing, commercial, healthcare, schools etc), we dont have the workforce to deliver. That has been happening for 10 years, but a combination of an aging workforce, not enough young people being attracted into the industry, and even our European colleagues going home (was happening before Brexit), this target is likely to be failed because of the labour shortage

JoyousGreyOrca · 09/02/2025 14:29

edwinbear · 09/02/2025 14:28

Jeremy Hunt regularly had the first initial of his surname replaced with a ‘C’. Nobody was up in arms about that.

But he was one.
Angela Rayner is Deputy Prime Minister.

edwinbear · 09/02/2025 14:28

Jeremy Hunt regularly had the first initial of his surname replaced with a ‘C’. Nobody was up in arms about that.

HellsBalls · 09/02/2025 14:27

The Grey Man? Paddy Pants down? Camoron?

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