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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 16:11

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 15:46

I repeat: by the metrics that Labour said Truss crashed the economy by, Reeves crashed the economy

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Why has the MSM not reported that Reeves has crashed the economy?

They have gone very quiet instead.

Your lettuce must have wilted by now

RoamingGnome · 09/02/2025 16:08

HPFA · 09/02/2025 15:12

It's just an excuse.

I was working on some local newspapers from the 70s and 80s once and every one had a letter from someone saying "why are we building houses? Stop immigration instead!" That was a period when immigration dropped from around 70,000 to 50,000 a year.

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Net migration to the UK in 2022 & 2023 was over 600,000 per year. Clearly a net gain of 1.2 million new people will have a significant impact on housing demand - ignoring the impact of migration is daft. We need a joined up conversation on migration & housing - particularly as trends in international student populations have a major impact on certain cities and university finances. More international students = massive demand for student housing, more properties moved to being student lets. Less students = universities panicking about their budgets. Lose lose really.

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 16:05

anyoneforhockey · 09/02/2025 14:39

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1986317/angela-rayner-just-made-mistake

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Thick as mince is an insult to mince

Hazylazydays · 09/02/2025 16:05

I thought Angela from Housing was a great header OP, it’s her name and housing is her task.
Personally I can’t stand the woman., that does not mean I am misogynistic, it just means I don’t like her, the same as I don’t like a lot of politicians.

Lovemycat2023 · 09/02/2025 16:04

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 09/02/2025 15:26

According to a recent letter to the Guardian...

'...developers already have planning consent for more than one million homes. These unused permissions not only represent a missed opportunity; they are an obstacle to the allocation of other land in the local plan. If the Government wants to see some building, then it should make some minor changes to planning law.
Make all consents lapse after five years without automatic right of renewal...'

Perhaps that would be a start?

Some of these permissions will be for large sites where construction has started (which keeps the consent alive), as developers have an upper limit on the amount the market will take each year. That’s why the bigger sites are split into lots of developers, plus some developers who market under different brands (eg David Wilson and Barretts)

So say for example it’s a 3000 home development, split over 6 developers, that will be built in phases with each phase having an outline consent for a number of homes. The build out will be over a number of years. The later phases won’t necessarily have an implementable consent until the reserved matters are dealt with, and the infrastructure and earlier phases go in, so those one million homes aren’t oven-ready.

GoldenLegend · 09/02/2025 16:04

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:32

Does anyone know how many she has built so far? She should have built 150k so far.

The faux outrage at OP’s title is simply a way to deflect attention from the fact that tis government is atrocious, even worse the last one. And Rayner is of low calibre and she’s being found out.

It’s not false outrage. It’s calling out misogyny.

Parsley1234 · 09/02/2025 15:57

Rayner is well out of her depth
Cooper Reeves and Phillipson looking visibly aged as does milliband but she’s so thick she thinks it’s appropriate to be raving in Ibiza the day the fuel allowance was withdrawn are you joking !

MaloryJones · 09/02/2025 15:55

SpanThatWorld · 09/02/2025 12:19

YABU to recycle a snarky little insult used to belittle one woman so that you can belittle another.

A while ago I would have eyerolled but I agree

Its bad enough "men" having digs at Women, and they often do this via a computer screen!!, without Women dissing other Women.

PS I have just this moment had a run in on a group with sucha a "man"

Lovemycat2023 · 09/02/2025 15:55

There are a huge number of changes needed; not just policy but legislation, process and resources. It’s like turning round a tanker, and it will take some time.

No one is being set up to fail, but if you tackle big problems (energy policy, social care, etc) people have to be patient. The only time you can do big changes is (a) at the start of your term and (b) if you have a decent majority.

OutrageousImmoral · 09/02/2025 15:54

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 12:20

Also, she isn't "Angela from Housing" - she's the deputy PM and calling her that nickname is quite misogynistic.

This

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 15:52

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 15:42

And where have any of those stated that Reeves has crashed the economy?

The gilts are down and the pound is up

Bank of England upgraded its growth forecasts.

https://www.ft.com/content/1e4ea6a4-fbc8-4fd1-a9fd-7571eb8c0aea?accessToken=zwAAAZTrWPsJkc8eTqak-8hP0dOp_XVx64wK6g.MEQCIADL2QRSklf5AQ3wKU3cLAVinnzC-kTzuWe9X2tzcmJqAiBex0WzC9QtDBA1HE5BqDE3Fj9JELkmB49HvocPnqCMBw&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise&shareId=7c1bc804-240f-4ec8-971c-50948a47975c

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Under Reeves the 10-year cost of debt has hit the highest level since 2008

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-uk-economy-markets-china-trip-b2677041.html

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jan/08/why-rising-bond-yields-are-rattling-rachel-reeves

https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/01/10/liz-truss-and-rachel-reeves-have-a-lot-in-common/

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/dec/23/sharp-fall-in-uk-business-activity-forecast-cbi-economy

https://www.cityam.com/cbi-downgrades-forecast-for-uk-economy-after-budget/

Warning food prices could soar 20% as pressure mounts on Reeves over flailing economy

Exclusive: Fears of a massive rise in the cost of imports have fuelled calls for Rachel Reeves to cancel her China trip with warnings that the UK is on the cusp of a financial crisis and recession

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/rachel-reeves-uk-economy-markets-china-trip-b2677041.html

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 15:47

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 15:46

I repeat: by the metrics that Labour said Truss crashed the economy by, Reeves crashed the economy

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Yep, which is why she sent Starmer a cease and desist letter.

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 15:46

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 15:42

And where have any of those stated that Reeves has crashed the economy?

The gilts are down and the pound is up

Bank of England upgraded its growth forecasts.

https://www.ft.com/content/1e4ea6a4-fbc8-4fd1-a9fd-7571eb8c0aea?accessToken=zwAAAZTrWPsJkc8eTqak-8hP0dOp_XVx64wK6g.MEQCIADL2QRSklf5AQ3wKU3cLAVinnzC-kTzuWe9X2tzcmJqAiBex0WzC9QtDBA1HE5BqDE3Fj9JELkmB49HvocPnqCMBw&segmentId=e95a9ae7-622c-6235-5f87-51e412b47e97&shareType=enterprise&shareId=7c1bc804-240f-4ec8-971c-50948a47975c

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I repeat: by the metrics that Labour said Truss crashed the economy by, Reeves crashed the economy

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 15:42

catmothertes1 · 09/02/2025 15:34

Same as "Rachel from accounts". Not sure if it's because they are women or Labour or both.

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I hope you also call it out when you see the leader of the opposition labelled Bad Enoch? Or white supremacist in blackface according to Dawn Butler.
Also MayBot for the then Prime Minister? Liz the lettuce? Are they ok?
I hate the silly names too but I don't think it just applies to labour women, it's accross the board.
Name calling and satire has been going on since Georgian times, it's nothing new.

Felizsenora · 09/02/2025 15:39

OonaStubbs · 09/02/2025 15:37

So we build these 1.5 million houses, people move into them, have kids, and in 25 years time we've run out of houses again. What do we do then? Build 1.5 million more houses?

Yes..build build build! They have no other answers

riceuten · 09/02/2025 15:38

I used to work in housing a building new housing is one of those things - unless you are rabidly anti-immigration - that’s seen as necessary, but nowhere near me, please. The planning system is already heavily bent in favour of developers, the issue is getting the latter to cough up. They’d much rather someone else take the risk and they scrape off the profits

OonaStubbs · 09/02/2025 15:37

So we build these 1.5 million houses, people move into them, have kids, and in 25 years time we've run out of houses again. What do we do then? Build 1.5 million more houses?

Tryingtokeepgoing · 09/02/2025 15:36

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 13:26

How much of that was caused by Liz Truss crashing the economy?

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Well, as they all result from actions this government has taken I rather suspect none… Which is not saying that I agree with Truss in the slightest - but at least the polices she espoused were quickly reversed. However, the damage being done by the last budget is not being undone…if anything, there’s worse to come if what the chancellor says is to be believed.

Beeinalily · 09/02/2025 15:35

Presumably all these people who don't like women being belittled have always been very respectful towards Margaret Thatcher?

catmothertes1 · 09/02/2025 15:34

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 12:20

Also, she isn't "Angela from Housing" - she's the deputy PM and calling her that nickname is quite misogynistic.

Same as "Rachel from accounts". Not sure if it's because they are women or Labour or both.

Allswellthatendswelll · 09/02/2025 15:33

Misogyny and classism. Gross.

Bluebellwood129 · 09/02/2025 15:32

Greypop · 09/02/2025 15:16

So many things in this country make NO sense. My parents are selling their current home and very much wanted to build a home. They didn’t want to build a McMansion but a tasteful home which was in keeping with the local surroundings. Even with a budget of £900k they settled against the idea as it was just too big of an uphill battle and too risky. Spent about £25k on consultation fees and surveyors and the like.

No common sense.

What were their challenges? Self build is fairly easy in my experience although a budget of 900k may be a limitation is some areas given the high cost of land.

Saggyknickers · 09/02/2025 15:29

Dappy777 · 09/02/2025 14:08

Development has already ruined my village, but I’m sure we can cram a few more disgusting rabbit hutches in. My local woods have been hacked down to make way for a new estate, and a second massive estate has been built at the other end of the village. Now we’ve been told the fields in the centre of the village are going to be built on as well. And will that be enough?! Haha…no, silly, of course it won’t. The main road into town going to have 500 new homes built along it. That road is choked with traffic NOW, so god knows what will happen when an extra 500 cars are added.

I don’t know why we don’t just concrete over the whole of central and southern England and be done with it. I was a fool for working all my life. I thought if I worked hard and saved my money I could have a little house with a scrap of garden and some peace and quiet. I don’t ask for much, just some peace and space and natural beauty. But my reward for working hard and obeying the law is to watch the countryside around me disappear. Sooner or later the field next to me will be built on as well. Looking back, I wish I’d gone into social housing and played the benefit system. I know people like Rayner hate my guts. She hates peoples like me, and so do most lefties. Deep down, it delights them to imagine all us horrible middle-class NIMBYs having our lives ruined.

Thought the "politics of envy speech" seems very apt here:

Social­ism is a phi­los­o­phy of fail­ure, the creed of igno­rance, and the gospel of envy, its inher­ent virtue is the equal shar­ing of misery.

Findmethesmallestviolin · 09/02/2025 15:28

@billysboy - what have you achieved in life. Angela Rayner is the deputy PM, you clearly feel superior - please explain why?