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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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Upstartled · 20/02/2025 13:59

Yes, I do too. I expect that whether the aim was to get European countries to put more money into defence or not, it will likely be the effect.

TheNuthatch · 20/02/2025 13:51

Upstartled · 20/02/2025 13:36

Cleverly is saying we should increase defence spending to 3% gdp. Making the point that peace through strength is better - and a lot cheaper - than war resulting from weakness.

I think talk around a push from 2% to 2.5% was £12bn. I almost feel sorry for Reeves at the moment - she'll be forever triggered by the word headroom

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Agree, I like that. I'm also glad Cleverly is stepping forward.
I don't feel sorry for Reeves though, she's made her bed.

EasternStandard · 20/02/2025 13:46

Upstartled · 20/02/2025 13:36

Cleverly is saying we should increase defence spending to 3% gdp. Making the point that peace through strength is better - and a lot cheaper - than war resulting from weakness.

I think talk around a push from 2% to 2.5% was £12bn. I almost feel sorry for Reeves at the moment - she'll be forever triggered by the word headroom

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Cleverly is saying we should increase defence spending to 3% gdp. Making the point that peace through strength is better - and a lot cheaper - than war resulting from weakness

Agree with that take

Upstartled · 20/02/2025 13:36

Cleverly is saying we should increase defence spending to 3% gdp. Making the point that peace through strength is better - and a lot cheaper - than war resulting from weakness.

I think talk around a push from 2% to 2.5% was £12bn. I almost feel sorry for Reeves at the moment - she'll be forever triggered by the word headroom

EasternStandard · 20/02/2025 12:14

TheNuthatch · 20/02/2025 11:46

Spokesman for the kremlin has directly rejected Starmer's proposal of putting UK troops into Ukraine.
You know, the proposal that doesn't even have the backing of other European leaders but he announced it anyway.
Tool

Tool made me laugh

TheNuthatch · 20/02/2025 11:46

Spokesman for the kremlin has directly rejected Starmer's proposal of putting UK troops into Ukraine.
You know, the proposal that doesn't even have the backing of other European leaders but he announced it anyway.
Tool

TheNuthatch · 20/02/2025 11:36

It was good to see James Cleverly speaking in the house yesterday. He basically called Lammy a wimp. The tories missed a trick not electing Cleverly as leader. He would have been far better than Badenoch.

Upstartled · 20/02/2025 09:58

Who knows what the Trumpian plan is? We know America has its eye on China as a bigger threat and feels overused and under valued in Ukraine.

European countries have become complacent about their defence spending, taking for granted that America will act in concert with their aims.

BoJo is suggesting that Trump is trying to offend and shock Europeans into action - and we should look to utilise frozen Russian assets to underwrite further support for Ukraine and compensate the US.

🤷🏼‍♀️

Parsley1234 · 19/02/2025 22:55

@EasternStandard @TheNuthatch he looks wrong though doesn’t he in every interview he comes across as a complete twit

EasternStandard · 19/02/2025 21:59

I'm not sure there was rubbish about LinkedIn and websites but no answer on the house

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 21:57

Yes I heard all that too.
If he's found to have lied to the house though? That's got to be taken more seriously hasn't it?

EasternStandard · 19/02/2025 21:53

Administrative came up again

As did lessons learned

Difficult decisions

And inherited

Every Labour interview in the morning sounds the same. Too irritating

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 21:50

Jonny Reynolds is being accused of lying to the house in his maiden speech. He claimed to be a solicitor working in Manchester, when in fact he never qualified. He will have to resign surely?
This would be a much bigger story in different circumstances.

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 21:24

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/02/2025 21:20

No, there is an actual asteroid hurtling towards us apparently. And Bruce Willis is sadly not on fighting form.

You couldn't make it up!

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'Bruce Willis is sadly not on fighting form' 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thanks for giving me a laugh.
Just when a thread gets too serious, up pops chardonnay 😂

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/02/2025 21:20

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 21:07

I didn't know there was an actual asteroid thread. I thought you were just catastrophizing like me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I feel a right dick now!

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No, there is an actual asteroid hurtling towards us apparently. And Bruce Willis is sadly not on fighting form.

You couldn't make it up!

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 21:07

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/02/2025 20:01

It’s all beyond bizarre.

The EU, the very same thing that was supposed to cement European unity is a scene for tantrums and arguments.

Is Trump siding with Russia at the expense of Europe?

Is Russia going for an approachment with the US at Iran’s detriment?

Is NATO going to hold?

Is the bloody asteroid going to go away?

Scary times.

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I didn't know there was an actual asteroid thread. I thought you were just catastrophizing like me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. I feel a right dick now!

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 20:51

BIossomtoes · 19/02/2025 20:26

Full disclosure, we're a military family. Dh no longer serving (thankfully) but two family members in the forces

Same. This is beyond bad. Trump gaslighting the world and God knows what he’ll do or say next.

Yes I remember blossom. It's a sickening feeling isn't it? We have one thing in common at least don't we 😂.

BIossomtoes · 19/02/2025 20:26

Full disclosure, we're a military family. Dh no longer serving (thankfully) but two family members in the forces

Same. This is beyond bad. Trump gaslighting the world and God knows what he’ll do or say next.

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 20:11

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat Yes! This is exactly how I feel tonight.
What a mess. I was hoping he would back down after teaching Europe a lesson, and maybe Europe showing Trump some deference, but it looks like it's gone too far now.
Full disclosure, we're a military family. Dh no longer serving (thankfully) but two family members in the forces. I also have dc in one of the nato countries vulnerable to Russia.
Are there no decent world leaders left?

EasternStandard · 19/02/2025 20:05

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat ha I haven't engaged on the asteroid one. Just hid that thread

A bloody asteroid on top of everything.

The troops thing from Macron and Starmer was pure posturing. Looks like KS has realised getting all Billy big bolls went down like a fart in an elevator.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 19/02/2025 20:01

It’s all beyond bizarre.

The EU, the very same thing that was supposed to cement European unity is a scene for tantrums and arguments.

Is Trump siding with Russia at the expense of Europe?

Is Russia going for an approachment with the US at Iran’s detriment?

Is NATO going to hold?

Is the bloody asteroid going to go away?

Scary times.

Parsley1234 · 19/02/2025 19:49

@TheNuthatch rewrite of history

TheNuthatch · 19/02/2025 19:34

Trump is now calling VZ a dictator and blaming Ukraine for starting the war! WTF!

Parsley1234 · 19/02/2025 15:21

@TheNuthatch bet Starmers wife is regretting one big proposal 🤦‍♀️

Upstartled · 19/02/2025 15:16

Yeah, he is, that is still happening today.

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