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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 20:48

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:39

@bemoresloth of course it has but it's more mixed now which I can understand some won't like

As for Reform it's taken Labour policies to really get their support going. I thought that might happen so no surprises so far.

Yep and each time Labour fuck up/lie/come across as arrogant and out of touch (so basically every day) they drive more people to Reform.

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:47

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:45

Were you on MN in the run up to the election?

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Yes, you?

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:46

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:39

@bemoresloth of course it has but it's more mixed now which I can understand some won't like

As for Reform it's taken Labour policies to really get their support going. I thought that might happen so no surprises so far.

More Conservative voters have turned to Reform than Labour. Maybe something the Conservative Party should address?

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:45

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:43

Yes really but maybe that is your own bias showing Smile

Were you on MN in the run up to the election?

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:43

Yes really but maybe that is your own bias showing Smile

twistyizzy · 09/02/2025 20:41

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:38

MN has never been pro labour

Seriously?* *

Yeh I must have mis-read all of those pro-Labour Tory bashing posts during the election. Or the 1000s of "Tory bot" comments every time someone criticised any Labour policy. Those have significantly declined now as the car crash of a Labour government unfolds

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:39

@bemoresloth of course it has but it's more mixed now which I can understand some won't like

As for Reform it's taken Labour policies to really get their support going. I thought that might happen so no surprises so far.

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:38

MN has never been pro labour

Seriously?* *

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 20:33

wholettheturnipsburn · 09/02/2025 20:30

Oooh. Aren't you witty.

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Certainly entertained you enough for you to comment.

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:33

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:27

@bemoresloth you might be on other threads idk. I think it won't be completely Labour anymore. Which is not a surprise looking at the polls and public sentiment.

MN has never been pro Labour, it was always quite balanced. Since the election was called, there has been a rise in Reform posters with an anti Labour bias.

Maybe Reform doesn't worry you.

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:32

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:27

@bemoresloth you might be on other threads idk. I think it won't be completely Labour anymore. Which is not a surprise looking at the polls and public sentiment.

Reform are tonight saying they now have 200K paid up members! Labour have blown it and the Tories are still a bin fire. Buckle up!

wholettheturnipsburn · 09/02/2025 20:30

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:22

Of course he has. She will be the fall guy. She’s a bit like Harris who was put in charge of the US border, when her handlers knew she had neither the intelligence, nor the political ability to get something like that done. Rayner is in same league.

Two Tier has his favourites. Rachel from accounts and Red Miliband. The former trashes the economy to give billions to the latter to piss up the wall. And the country just plunges deeper into oblivion.

Buckle up everyone. It’s gonna be a rough ride.

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Oooh. Aren't you witty.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:27

@bemoresloth you might be on other threads idk. I think it won't be completely Labour anymore. Which is not a surprise looking at the polls and public sentiment.

0ohLarLar · 09/02/2025 20:19

At least they are openly accepting that the only way to bring down housing cost relative to wages is a significant increase in supply.

To be honest though, at some stage I assume they will have to do what happened in the 60s and 70s.

Read NHBC homes through the decades. There's a good graphic in there where you can see all the peaks in housebuilding are under Labour governments.

bemoresloth · 09/02/2025 20:15

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:08

Absolutely all over social media, not just Mumsnet.

Mn isn't mostly pro Labour anymore so those posters are probably noticing it

It's not surprising given the fall in support generally

It's becoming quite pro Reform. Not a good development in my eyes but you might disagree

BurntBroccoli · 09/02/2025 20:11

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/02/2025 18:49

A good way to get the housing dilemma solved is to build 'social housing estates' on the outskirts of most towns and villages, just like they did before.

Completely ridiculous to use the private sector to prop up/supply social housing - it's a long-term public investment not something shareholders stake there money on.

Compulsory purchase on a National Level for all landbanked land and Public Loans for any Local Housing Authority to build Social Housing on any of this land.

The thought of this as a possibility got the landbanking property speculators off their arses in my neck of the woods.

Yes agree with this. We need to at least replace all the sold off RTB stock.

The planning needs to be careful however so you don't end up with the awful concrete sink estates that were built in the 1970s (a lot of which have now been demolished in the north).

It needs to be something like the post war council semis - good solid houses with gardens and plenty of green space in between.

EasternStandard · 09/02/2025 20:08

Absolutely all over social media, not just Mumsnet.

Mn isn't mostly pro Labour anymore so those posters are probably noticing it

It's not surprising given the fall in support generally

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 20:05

My original point was that I cant give Starmer credit for taking action against Andrew Gwynne when this cretin Athwal is still an MP.

BurntBroccoli · 09/02/2025 20:01

mowmiaow · 09/02/2025 16:18

MN seems to be flooded with a load of rightwing propaganda at the moment. Anything to trash labour and push the dodgy right wing narrative.

Absolutely all over social media, not just Mumsnet.
All the local rags seem to be supporting Reform and a right wing agenda.

mowmiaow · 09/02/2025 19:29

TheNuthatch · 09/02/2025 16:43

Yes true. I'm not sure any of them are more 'corrupt and dodgy' than Jas Athwal though. He's on another level and still an MP.

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according to this, he was cleared?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/04/jas-athwal-labour-councillor-tells-of-darkest-time-in-suspension-row

Here's all the tory sleaze though:

https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/adlib-articles/the-a-z-of-tory-sleaze-scandal

The A-Z of Tory Sleaze and Scandal

Naming Conservative scandals is as easy as ABC.

https://www.libdems.org.uk/news/adlib-articles/the-a-z-of-tory-sleaze-scandal

anyoneforhockey · 09/02/2025 19:14

@BurntBroccoli And while I'm on, why does the BBC always call the government "Labour" as if they are in opposition?

I've no idea.

They won't call Hamas "terrorists"

And they persisted in calling the "Pakistani Muslim Rape Gangs" " Asian Grooming Gangs" for some time, much to the chagrin of some Chinese friends of mine.

TheHateIsNotGood · 09/02/2025 19:05

I'm giving Ange from Housing a chance. It's a shedload of shit to be sifted through that's been going on since before the Tories were in charge; Ange shouldn't be the scapegoat for this bucket of shit.

You go Ange my lovely, stay strong and if all they can do is criticize your clothes, then it shows weakness on their part.

Build, build, build Social Housing Estates and tax penalize the developers who've landbanked their land to pay for it. Simples.

BurntBroccoli · 09/02/2025 19:02

JimHalpertsWife · 09/02/2025 12:20

Also, she isn't "Angela from Housing" - she's the deputy PM and calling her that nickname is quite misogynistic.

Yes it is. It's like the one Rachel Reeves always gets too. Always uttered by Reform voters (along with the winter fuel payments).

And while I'm on, why does the BBC always call the government "Labour" as if they are in opposition?

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