Angela from Housing

No, it's because they have screwed over children with SEN, introduced a damaging policy mid year, and managed to make elite private schools even more elite, whilst enabling them to claim VAT back.
Politics of envy at its finest.

I don’t think you’re being manipulated 😂.

Before plunging into threads with clickbaity titles and themes, I’d just recommend people advanced search the usernames of the OP and make a judgement based on the kinds of threads they are on/ have started.

I used to really love Mumsnet, not because it was an echo chamber amplifying my own views but because it was a load of intelligent women to chat to.

It feels much less like that kind of a place now, although thankfully you can still find good convo on some threads. I’ll not be going near politics, news, chat, or AIBU from now on - it’s low value stuff by and large now.

The problem that so many posters on this thread have with labour's education policy is that they know if we have restoration of social mobility it means it goes in both ways

*as an adult

If you think we don't need someone who desperately needed state intervention in her childhood, who has worked in the most crucial public service at risk of collapse (social care), who has brought up a disabled child, who like many in this country experienced being a young mum and a young grandmother, has been a social housing tenant and an adult in the cabinet to help make decisions about these crucial issues of health, wellbeing, economic growth and social mobility .... well, i dont know what to tell you.

Other than that whether it's "a good look" is totally irrelevant

This

Reform are utter twats hellbent on impoverishing the middle and working classes and giving it all in backhanders to their billionaire mates, all the while being propped up by Putin and Musk.

Anyone who can't see through this needs a serious talking to.

Farage already ruined us with Brexit. Let's not let him fuck us over even more.

Disgusted by the far right propaganda on MN the last couple of weeks. Putin has his bots out in force at the moment.

@nearlylovemyusername yes it’s going to get much worse all you civil servants public sector trade union workers congratulations you got the winning ticket because the private sector of business enterprise has gone bust under Reeves tax smash and grab with no foresight none atall. I can’t see anyone on this thread with any idea about business defending her or them no bloody clue sbd we are all going to pay for it

@bemoresloth i think the opposite
@TheNuthatch exactky where were they ? Nowhere the only policy they rode into no 10
on was the 20% vat increase on public schools that’s it all the others were no where to be seen.

I'm being manipulated? I don't have TikTok, X or Facebook accounts and don't read any news outlets apart from FT, BBC and Sky. And Guardian occasionally when it goes to my newsfeed. If you check my posting history I've been absolutely consistent in my views.
And you know what - it is democracy for you. To be able to express views which aren't necessarily aligned with ruling party or even majority. And my views are absolutely based on facts and evidences. And some very basic understanding of economics and finances.

Agreed. Is there even any point reading policies and manifestos anymore?
Where was cutting WFA, Farmers IHT, Employers NI in the labour manifesto?

It speaks volumes about you both and not in a good way.

Folks, you’re aware you’re being manipulated right?? “Angela from Housing”??

Have a think what actively participating and posting here is doing to our democracy. Yes, we all have different views. Yes, there’s lots of discontent at the moment.

But don’t let yourselves be pulled in the direction of the prevailing hot air, just because. Look for facts and evidenced stuff,as opposed to clickbait dressed up as informed debate, or cheap TikTok crapola.

Love your summary 😂
It's spot on

@Sherbs12 why would you think it contradicts my argument it may well do
Starmer knew AR was a terrorist and he denied denied denied it he lied what a surprise
@twistyizzy yes deep inferiority complex so transparent

All very fair points but it does not matter at all.
Labour policies did not stuck in June 2024, their numbers didn't match, it was so glaringly obvious, but the sentiment was GTTO no matter what and even people who knew they would be harmed by Labour still voted for them. I personally know a lot of such cases. They regret it deeply now.

By 2029 the same sentiment will be Get The Labour Out, so Reform's policies won't matter, it won't be rational again, purely hate for Labour for betrayal and inflicting pain. Because it will get much worse than it was last year.
Then with Musk supporting Reform and all SM election technology I won't be too surprised if Reform will be the main party then, don't think it's going to be majority, by main is not impossible.

Your use of ‘chippiness’ contradicts your argument quite a bit.

When and how did Starmer gaslight the rioters? Is it about the ones who pleaded guilty to incitement? Or is it his fault for following CPS guidance to ensure a fair trial that made people start stealing fake crocs from Primark and looting Greggs?

Don't forget Phillipson, her inferiority complex whilst at Oxford has poisoned her against any form of good education and is determined to drag the whole system down.

Rachel from Accounts has surely been taken from the popular Australian TV series 'Colin from Accounts' - I watched a few episodes myself last year (although Colin's character is actually an injured dog).

Sunak's stint as Chancellor pre-dates the series so there wouldn't be 'Rishi from Accounts'.

@LostittoBostik I don’t care when anyone is educated but when you hear the chippiness coming off the front bench it’s pretty obvious that they do. Phillipson and Reeves both felt less than at Oxford hence where this bile comes from Rayner was pregnant left school at 15 is now a grandmother at 41 is this really a good look for the front bench. Lammy thinking a man can grow a cervix Starmer gas lighting all the rioters it’s a bloody mess

Do we also predict that there have been crisis talks and panic in the government over the high number of TikTok followers Farage now has?

Do you think by 2029 that Reform members/subscribers will finally have some members rights? They didn’t vote Farage in and they can’t vote him out - he’s the owner of the business. How does a limited company with an unelected leader govern in a democracy? Will they have any detailed, funded policies by then? How can they be a honestly be a party representing the working class whilst voting against the Employment Rights Bill and planning to privatise/opt for an insurance-based NHS? So many questions, and yet so few answers and so little verified information.

LostittoBostik
the cabinet is 98 per cent state educated?

Anneliese Dodds, Keir Starmer and John Healey attended private secondary schools and/or private sixth forms, Hilary Benn and Lisa Nandy attended private prep schools and David Lammy's state boarding school fees were funded by an ILEA scholarship.

Louise Haigh also attended a private secondary school.

What about Jenny from the Block …now that’s a top tune

Another scary thing about Labour is that they don't listen.
I'm not fun of Tory, but there were few episodes when their policies raise outrage and they backed out, for good.
Labour either really don't understand the aftermath of what they are doing or understand but still don't own their mistakes and continue pushing like tantruming toddlers. Neither is a good sign.

Fuck me if I have to see one more “Angela from housing” or “Rachel from accounts” I am going to fucking explode.

John Major (incidentally who I respect) left school with 3 O levels and failed to get a job as a bus driver.
David Cameron was a career arselicker politician.
Boris Johnson writes racist twaddle for the daily Mail and other rags.

They didn’t suffer this bollocks.

By all means criticise policy but are people really so fucking backwards they can’t do it without such overt blatant sexism.