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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:58

They must be laughing their arses off every time they read the FT

I agree 0.7 growth in one quarter compared to recession slow motion car crash

Sunak knew what would happen and here we are

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:58

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mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:57

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 11:55

I'll pick one for you, Rishi Sunak!
And yes I would rather have Hunt running the economy alongside him.
They must be laughing their arses off every time they read the FT

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Ok I get your agenda now.

Parsley1234 · 10/02/2025 11:57

@TheNuthatch mot as much as the bankers getting that Wednesday invite this am

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 11:55

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:48

@twistyizzy if you don't have any actual suggestions on who you would prefer for these roles, then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Labour.

Go on - you can pick ANYONE from any party? Please tell us?

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I'll pick one for you, Rishi Sunak!
And yes I would rather have Hunt running the economy alongside him.
They must be laughing their arses off every time they read the FT

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:51

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:48

@twistyizzy if you don't have any actual suggestions on who you would prefer for these roles, then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Labour.

Go on - you can pick ANYONE from any party? Please tell us?

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As they are the party in government that is irrelevant because we aren't going to get an alternate party until the next election.
However much you goad me 😆

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:48

@twistyizzy if you don't have any actual suggestions on who you would prefer for these roles, then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Labour.

Go on - you can pick ANYONE from any party? Please tell us?

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:46

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:44

So you're very happy to slag them off after 5 minutes in government but won't suggest which other party (as per my post) you would prefer? Right.

I'd just like to understand which party you think would do a better job?

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Oh you expect me to say Reform etc. Cos anyone who criticises Labour is a bot etc?
I just want a competent Chancellor/Ed Sec/Deputy PM etc I don't care which party they are from.

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:45

bemoresloth · 10/02/2025 11:43

How funny that whataboutery is now frowned upon

Whataboutery is a distraction technique to deflect from answering the Q. So it should always be frowned upon

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:44

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:43

My 'agenda' is that Labour had 14 years to plan and have only achieved fucking the economy up due to their incompetence. They put ideology above everything else, including fiscal sense.

I always voted Labour up until this election and so pleased I didn't this time! Currently not sure where I stand but it certainly isn't with this group of incompetent people. Not sure I want anyone in current cabinet in the role of Chancellor because I don't believe any of them are up to the job.

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So you're very happy to slag them off after 5 minutes in government but won't suggest which other party (as per my post) you would prefer? Right.

I'd just like to understand which party you think would do a better job?

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:44

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:44

All this doesn't change the metrics caused by Labour. Read the latest, including below from the FT.

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They won't!

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:44

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:33

Everyone seems to have forgotten Truss, Brexit (courtesy of Cameron) and the shitshow financial legacy the Tories have given us in their 15 odd years.

But happy to blame Labour who have been in govt just a few months. Not to mention the health service on its knees, higher child poverty rates than ever, greater wealth inequality, reliance on food banks, Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit.

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.

Weird how memories can be so short. Let's blame it all on Labour though!

All this doesn't change the metrics caused by Labour. Read the latest, including below from the FT.

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:43

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:39

Who would you like to see replace Reeves? Which party do you think would do a better job given the set of circumstances she inherited from Tories?

Let us know what you think, then we'll understand your agenda better?

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My 'agenda' is that Labour had 14 years to plan and have only achieved fucking the economy up due to their incompetence. They put ideology above everything else, including fiscal sense.

I always voted Labour up until this election and so pleased I didn't this time! Currently not sure where I stand but it certainly isn't with this group of incompetent people. Not sure I want anyone in current cabinet in the role of Chancellor because I don't believe any of them are up to the job.

bemoresloth · 10/02/2025 11:43

How funny that whataboutery is now frowned upon

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:39

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:36

Whataboutery isn't relevant because we are talking about Labour. Tories aren't in government now.
FYI by the metrics Labour accused Truss of crashing the economy, they have also achieved. Hence why Truss sent cease + desist letter. Labour demanded her resignation so therefore Reeves should also resign because she did exactly the same thing as Truss.

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Who would you like to see replace Reeves? Which party do you think would do a better job given the set of circumstances she inherited from Tories?

Let us know what you think, then we'll understand your agenda better?

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:39

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:33

Everyone seems to have forgotten Truss, Brexit (courtesy of Cameron) and the shitshow financial legacy the Tories have given us in their 15 odd years.

But happy to blame Labour who have been in govt just a few months. Not to mention the health service on its knees, higher child poverty rates than ever, greater wealth inequality, reliance on food banks, Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit.

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.

Weird how memories can be so short. Let's blame it all on Labour though!

Labour inherited a growing economy. Their policies have directly contributed to the situation of the UK heading towards recession.

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:36

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:33

Everyone seems to have forgotten Truss, Brexit (courtesy of Cameron) and the shitshow financial legacy the Tories have given us in their 15 odd years.

But happy to blame Labour who have been in govt just a few months. Not to mention the health service on its knees, higher child poverty rates than ever, greater wealth inequality, reliance on food banks, Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit.

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.

Weird how memories can be so short. Let's blame it all on Labour though!

Whataboutery isn't relevant because we are talking about Labour. Tories aren't in government now.
FYI by the metrics Labour accused Truss of crashing the economy, they have also achieved. Hence why Truss sent cease + desist letter. Labour demanded her resignation so therefore Reeves should also resign because she did exactly the same thing as Truss.

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:33

Everyone seems to have forgotten Truss, Brexit (courtesy of Cameron) and the shitshow financial legacy the Tories have given us in their 15 odd years.

But happy to blame Labour who have been in govt just a few months. Not to mention the health service on its knees, higher child poverty rates than ever, greater wealth inequality, reliance on food banks, Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit.

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.

Weird how memories can be so short. Let's blame it all on Labour though!

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 11:25

LostittoBostik · 10/02/2025 11:15

Nobody wants to hear it.

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No Labour supporters want to hear the hash Labour are making of the economy, even in the face of mounting evidence from across all spectrums.
I have yet to see 1 economic commentator/economist saying that Labour are doing a good job.

nearlylovemyusername · 10/02/2025 11:21

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:14

Blame Brexit and the Tories for this. Not Labour. Too soon.

People are again blaming labour, the same way they did after the 2008 global recession. Which was a GLOBAL recession.

Blaming Tory for Brexit - yes, absolutely, never forgotten and never forgiven.

But last five years of high inflation etc? which was exactly the same across the world? why blaming Tory for this and not covid and war in Ukraine? if anything, we had it much milder than in Europe.

nearlylovemyusername · 10/02/2025 11:19

Sherbs12 · 10/02/2025 10:48

Should one of those pivots/decisions involve possibly re-joining the EU / the single market and customs?

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YES!
Yes! Yes! Yes!

Make one bloody unpopular decision using your historical majority, rejoin EU and save us from this free fall!

But they are dragging their feet with youth mobility, so no hope in hell

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:18

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:14

Blame Brexit and the Tories for this. Not Labour. Too soon.

People are again blaming labour, the same way they did after the 2008 global recession. Which was a GLOBAL recession.

Read the FT quote below

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:17

Nobody wants to hear it.

Nobody in Labour wants to hear their impact on jobs.

Why is that? Are you in the public sector out if interest

LostittoBostik · 10/02/2025 11:15

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:14

Blame Brexit and the Tories for this. Not Labour. Too soon.

People are again blaming labour, the same way they did after the 2008 global recession. Which was a GLOBAL recession.

Nobody wants to hear it.

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