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Angela from Housing

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billysboy · 09/02/2025 12:18

Ainu to think Angela Rayners has been set up to fail on her 1.5m homes target ?
you can barely get planning permission through for a small extension in under 10 weeks let alone 1.5 m new homes
Every month that goes by the shortage compounds
I wonder if Kier has set her up to fail

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EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:24

The first quarter 2024 growth was good at 0.7

Since the GE the private sector has been shrinking and now we see the impact on the jobs market, reported on today

It's easy to follow the thread of what's happening

Unless you're the chancellor and PM or Labour

nearlylovemyusername · 10/02/2025 12:22

justteanbiscuits · 10/02/2025 12:12

Harris has a level of intelligence that would likely put you to shame.

I think Harris has level of intelligence that would definitely put both RR and AR into deep shame

justteanbiscuits · 10/02/2025 12:22

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:19

@justteanbiscuits there's an FT quote further down the thread

Plenty in the press, all of it, explaining the economic impact of Labour's policies

Yes, there are economic impacts. It was very clear that to fix the mess there were going to be some pretty huge economic impacts. Didn't they say "it will get worse before it gets better"?

You're talking like they inherited anything like a healthy economy. They didn't.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:19

@justteanbiscuits there's an FT quote further down the thread

Plenty in the press, all of it, explaining the economic impact of Labour's policies

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:18

justteanbiscuits · 10/02/2025 12:15

Please explain how the economy wasn't already crashed?! She inherited an economy deep in stagflation and pretty drastic action is the only way out of that.

And sadly, it seems that % of people answering opinion polls believe the lies fed by Reform. They literally have no one in their company capable of running any part of the country.

I can't be bothered to re-post links from across the political spectrum about what the impact of Labour's policies have been but of you RTFT you will find them.

I mean, people believed Labour's lies prior to the election didn't they?

justteanbiscuits · 10/02/2025 12:15

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:11

And in that time have successfully crashed the economy and succeeded in losing % of opinion in polls to Reform.

Please explain how the economy wasn't already crashed?! She inherited an economy deep in stagflation and pretty drastic action is the only way out of that.

And sadly, it seems that % of people answering opinion polls believe the lies fed by Reform. They literally have no one in their company capable of running any part of the country.

justteanbiscuits · 10/02/2025 12:12

Jossjt · 09/02/2025 12:22

Of course he has. She will be the fall guy. She’s a bit like Harris who was put in charge of the US border, when her handlers knew she had neither the intelligence, nor the political ability to get something like that done. Rayner is in same league.

Two Tier has his favourites. Rachel from accounts and Red Miliband. The former trashes the economy to give billions to the latter to piss up the wall. And the country just plunges deeper into oblivion.

Buckle up everyone. It’s gonna be a rough ride.

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Harris has a level of intelligence that would likely put you to shame.

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:11

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:09

"They had a golden opportunity and they have fucked it up."

They have had just over 6 months in govt after 14 years of tory.

And in that time have successfully crashed the economy and succeeded in losing % of opinion in polls to Reform.

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:10

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:06

My "agenda" as a MN user on this thread, is to counter bullshit propaganda, nasty bitching like "Rachel from accounts" etc, and smearing that leads us into a Tory / Reform nightmare.

No I am not a public sector worker.

A concerned citizen who can't stand the tories and hates right far right and what's happening to the UK. Tories and Farage have fucked us over so hard. And idiots are falling for it and pushing for it on MN. Shameful.

Ok, you can be all of that and still accept that this Labour government are a shit show! My dh is a proper lefty and he thinks they are appalling.

I'll ask again, what is my agenda?

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:09

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:08

You were the one who started using the word "agenda".
And using language like you have above is exactly what pushes people towards Reform etc except you are too blind to see it.
Every time Labour lie/obfuscate etc they increase Reform's chances. They had a golden opportunity and they have fucked it up.
You think you are so morally and intellectually superior?

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"They had a golden opportunity and they have fucked it up."

They have had just over 6 months in govt after 14 years of tory.

nearlylovemyusername · 10/02/2025 12:09

@mowmiaow

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.
See - not the same? or not being PM makes it excusable?
Second Labour MP apologises over WhatsApp comments - BBC News

Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit

RR made it ultimately worse - rates are coming back. Businesses lost as a direct result of Labour budget will not. And high fliers/high earners leaving UK in droves won't return soon. And whilst Tory f..ed it, they were quick to remove Truss. These zealots aren't budging.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:08

@TheNuthatch he did. Two correct predictions

He got trounced by the press though, and here we are with this car crash

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:08

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:06

My "agenda" as a MN user on this thread, is to counter bullshit propaganda, nasty bitching like "Rachel from accounts" etc, and smearing that leads us into a Tory / Reform nightmare.

No I am not a public sector worker.

A concerned citizen who can't stand the tories and hates right far right and what's happening to the UK. Tories and Farage have fucked us over so hard. And idiots are falling for it and pushing for it on MN. Shameful.

You were the one who started using the word "agenda".
And using language like you have above is exactly what pushes people towards Reform etc except you are too blind to see it.
Every time Labour lie/obfuscate etc they increase Reform's chances. They had a golden opportunity and they have fucked it up.
You think you are so morally and intellectually superior?

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:08

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:05

This is the same pp who thinks Jas Athwal is innocent.

Never even looked him up before this thread. I posted one link having looked him up and that link said he was innocent.

Perhaps direct your concern to Starmer if you are so worried. I am sure he would be sacking him if he was concerned.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:07

@mowmiaow why don't you include being concerned about job losses in your agenda?

Do you feel it won't impact you?

These are people's livelihoods

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:07

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 11:58

They must be laughing their arses off every time they read the FT

I agree 0.7 growth in one quarter compared to recession slow motion car crash

Sunak knew what would happen and here we are

He also correctly predicted what would happen if the tories elected Liz Truss.

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:06

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:05

This is the same pp who thinks Jas Athwal is innocent.

Jesus! Explains a lot

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 12:06

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:02

To use your own words "then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Tories/Reform"

My "agenda" as a MN user on this thread, is to counter bullshit propaganda, nasty bitching like "Rachel from accounts" etc, and smearing that leads us into a Tory / Reform nightmare.

No I am not a public sector worker.

A concerned citizen who can't stand the tories and hates right far right and what's happening to the UK. Tories and Farage have fucked us over so hard. And idiots are falling for it and pushing for it on MN. Shameful.

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:05

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:02

To use your own words "then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Tories/Reform"

This is the same pp who thinks Jas Athwal is innocent.

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:04

Surely most people would be concerned with job losses

Except Labour, why not though?

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:02

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To use your own words "then I suggest your only agenda on here is to bitch about Tories/Reform"

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 12:01

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:57

Ok I get your agenda now.

What's my agenda? Please spell it out, I'm all ears

EasternStandard · 10/02/2025 12:00

Ok I get your agenda now.

What is yours @mowmiaow?

Behind Labour as jobs are lost and recession gets closer, why?

Are you public sector by any chance

twistyizzy · 10/02/2025 12:00

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And now we see your agenda. Accusing genuine posters of being bots won't end well for your comment

TheNuthatch · 10/02/2025 11:59

mowmiaow · 10/02/2025 11:33

Everyone seems to have forgotten Truss, Brexit (courtesy of Cameron) and the shitshow financial legacy the Tories have given us in their 15 odd years.

But happy to blame Labour who have been in govt just a few months. Not to mention the health service on its knees, higher child poverty rates than ever, greater wealth inequality, reliance on food banks, Truss's impact on mortgages and that massive pile of shit.

Let's also forget about Partygate, let them die, etc etc from the "worst PM" as recently declared, Bojo.

Weird how memories can be so short. Let's blame it all on Labour though!

I'm happy to blame the tories for all of this actually. Although I think Corbyn should also be blamed for Brexit.

I will continue to blame Labour for their actions since the election.