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To not want my baby left alone with FIL

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LottieB1994 · 09/02/2025 10:31

I’m at the end of my tether with my FIL and want to know AIBU. I have a 4 month old and the reasons I have are:

  • He is extremely full on with all 3 of his grandchildren, wanting to constantly play, hold etc to a level that isn’t normal.
  • He has never shown any interest in me as a person, never asks me any q’s about myself, knows hardly anything about me due to this. He only talks about himself in conversation with everyone.
  • When I was pregnant he decided he was coming for a week when I gave birth, then another week 2 weeks later (this never happened as DH stepped in) without caring if I felt comfortable with this - he stated he was coming on my due date to stay nearby, which I was extremely uncomfortable with as I knew the baby was unlikely to even arrive then and he’d be there waiting for me to go into labour. When I saw him while pregnant he touched my belly in a way that also made me feel really uncomfortable like he wanted the baby out asap so he could have him.
  • With the other grandchildren, he feeds them an absolutely WILD amount of sugar all day every day. The 2 year old GD he feeds literal crap, offering milky ways, bars of chocolate, cakes, eclairs, fizzy drinks te list goes on and on. This is fine, however, with our DS he is already saying he can’t wait to give him these same foods without even asking if this is ok.
  • In same vein he is saying that 4 month old needs weaning now, he’s hungry, making “mummy isn’t feeding you enough” comments to him when we are at dinner table with him. I am BF and don’t feel he likes this. Keeps saying “next time you come you’ll be having farleys rusks/lollipops/chocolate/crisps” - this makes me feel extremely anxious as I want to wean him onto non sweet foods first and don’t want him having this type of food at just 9 months old which is when we will next be staying.
  • He also has been sitting DS in front of the 2 year olds iPad which she is obsessed with - going “watch the pad! Do you want to watch some TV?” While DH and I don’t want him having screen time.
  • while holding him he starts crying and he actively avoids giving him to me, I think it annoys him that he is crying and he tries to either walk off holding him or give him to SIL. This makes me angry - he is obsessed with trying to settle him himself
  • He acts slightly annoyed when baby needs to nap during the day and I take him off to nap, saying eg “he had a 2 hour nap this morning isn’t he done for today?”
  • He keeps undermining me, I keep saying baby is teething (as he is - HV told me) and he keeps saying “he’s chewing his fists he’s hungry” and “I don’t think hes teething at his age” to SIL in front of me, though I keep reiterating he is.
  • He has been showering the other 10 year old grandson which I think is really weird and uncomfortable, a level of involvement that is far too intense and I don’t want my son being treated like this. With the 2 year old he is literally like a kid in a candy shop all day trying to be the centre of attention with her, shouting and constantly trying to clutch onto her.
  • Hes been asking to look after my DS alone for upcoming weddings we have, and acted annoyed that I said I don’t want to leave him yet (I am actually leaving him with my mum as I do not trust him or want him alone with my son)
  • He has also been ramming and holding dummy into my sons mouth when he cries, which makes me feel upset and I have now stopped him doing this by saying we’re only using dummy for nap time.

All of this honestly is making my skin crawl and I really don’t want my DS having much more to do with him as I feel like he is extremely strange and also has zero respect for me as his mother and us as parents, assuming he will be doing these unhealthy things with our son. I have said to DH I don’t want him looking after our baby alone until he is much older.

AIBU to feel like this?

OP posts:
ramowwo · 11/02/2025 15:43

OP please report this man to social services and police for showering with a 10 year old. It's dangerous and dodgy!

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 15:41

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 15:38

I'm just pointing out the obvious from her posts. I'm.glad mumsnet deleted the post where someone was fully accusing the grandfather of molesting the child but that's what the OP wanted people to do.

If I genuinely thought he was a child molester I’d be calling the police not posting mumsnet 🤣

OP posts:
JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 15:38

thepariscrimefiles · 11/02/2025 15:21

You're sounding really weird now, as though you have a personal vendetta against the OP.

I'm just pointing out the obvious from her posts. I'm.glad mumsnet deleted the post where someone was fully accusing the grandfather of molesting the child but that's what the OP wanted people to do.

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 15:37

If you didn't, it wouldn't have been point number 2 in your OP.

thepariscrimefiles · 11/02/2025 15:21

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 14:47

It seems like your DP comes from a family where they feed their kids crap food hence why your FIL does what is in line with your SIL and BIL's parenting style.

You got with a guy whose family aren't the most nutritionally literate folks.

Just admit that you feel that he should give you reverence as his son's chosen one and the fact that he doesn't rankles you, so you want to control the only thing you can in revenge: your kids.

You're sounding really weird now, as though you have a personal vendetta against the OP.

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 15:20

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 14:47

It seems like your DP comes from a family where they feed their kids crap food hence why your FIL does what is in line with your SIL and BIL's parenting style.

You got with a guy whose family aren't the most nutritionally literate folks.

Just admit that you feel that he should give you reverence as his son's chosen one and the fact that he doesn't rankles you, so you want to control the only thing you can in revenge: your kids.

I literally don’t care what the guy thinks of me lol

OP posts:
CantStopBuyingSeeds · 11/02/2025 14:54

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JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 14:47

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 14:29

Again, never said the behaviour is predatory - that’s your interpretation of what I’ve said. And I really don’t care if he doesn’t like me but I do care that he doesn’t respect me as a parent and wants to fill my baby full of crap food!

It seems like your DP comes from a family where they feed their kids crap food hence why your FIL does what is in line with your SIL and BIL's parenting style.

You got with a guy whose family aren't the most nutritionally literate folks.

Just admit that you feel that he should give you reverence as his son's chosen one and the fact that he doesn't rankles you, so you want to control the only thing you can in revenge: your kids.

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 14:29

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 13:34

Frankly I question the OP's interpretation of any of these events given how she's tried to twist the bathroom incident. Some things just sound like the annoying things people say and do when you have a baby when you take the OP's careful wording out of it. Eg "like he wanted to take the baby out now". He didn't say that. What we know is that he touched his DIL's pregnant tummy which is inappropriate but literally strangers do that to pregnant women, I see no particular malice which is in line with the OP's implied narrative that he is predatory. He just doesn't like her much so doesn't make much of an effort with her.

Again, never said the behaviour is predatory - that’s your interpretation of what I’ve said. And I really don’t care if he doesn’t like me but I do care that he doesn’t respect me as a parent and wants to fill my baby full of crap food!

OP posts:
JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 13:35

So your husband let his dad cuddle his baby... what is the big deal?

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 13:34

thepariscrimefiles · 11/02/2025 10:22

His behaviour while OP was pregnant and the breastfeeding comments are both massive red flags. What sort of man (other than the baby's father) touches a pregnant woman's belly without permission? What sort of man comments to a breastfeeding mum that she isn't feeding her baby enough and that he can't wait to give a 4 month old baby junk food?

The parents of the other children are fine with huge amounts of sugar/junk food but OP isn't and she has every right to say no to this and to keep her distance.

Frankly I question the OP's interpretation of any of these events given how she's tried to twist the bathroom incident. Some things just sound like the annoying things people say and do when you have a baby when you take the OP's careful wording out of it. Eg "like he wanted to take the baby out now". He didn't say that. What we know is that he touched his DIL's pregnant tummy which is inappropriate but literally strangers do that to pregnant women, I see no particular malice which is in line with the OP's implied narrative that he is predatory. He just doesn't like her much so doesn't make much of an effort with her.

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 12:45

My husband took him downstairs as he’d been up all night and husband was there but FIL came into the room and of course had to take him off him immediately. It’s pretty difficult to say I don’t want him to interact with him when we are staying with him.. but when we leave in 2 days I will be reducing contact believe me!

OP posts:
godmum56 · 11/02/2025 12:44

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 12:40

The 10 YO has no additional needs. I’m not suggesting the behaviour is predatory, but I do find it extremely weird and over the top, also with no regard to boundaries for the 10 year old.

This morning I went downstairs to him attempting to snuggle my baby to sleep on him (baby wasn’t having any of it), and he’s mentioned twice now how he wants 2 year old to sleep on him as well. It’s behaviour like this I just find so odd and unsettling predatory or not. I cannot explain why a grown man has such an obsession with things like this..

Why are you still leaving the baby where this man can get at him?

LottieB1994 · 11/02/2025 12:40

The 10 YO has no additional needs. I’m not suggesting the behaviour is predatory, but I do find it extremely weird and over the top, also with no regard to boundaries for the 10 year old.

This morning I went downstairs to him attempting to snuggle my baby to sleep on him (baby wasn’t having any of it), and he’s mentioned twice now how he wants 2 year old to sleep on him as well. It’s behaviour like this I just find so odd and unsettling predatory or not. I cannot explain why a grown man has such an obsession with things like this..

OP posts:
MoonWoman69 · 11/02/2025 11:12

I think a ten year old can actually reach his own towel. It's one thing setting the bathroom up so he has everything he needs to hand, it's a totally different matter being there to hand him a towel!!! I'd like to know what the 10 year olds interpretation of that is!
Mum or dad being in there at a real push. Grandfather, just no! Especially not with his other behaviours, he seems overly intrusive.

JimHalpertsWife · 11/02/2025 10:47

Water safety for a 10yo? Does he have additional needs?

Maboscelar · 11/02/2025 10:25

LottieB1994 · 09/02/2025 10:44

Yep this happened last night and was the final straw in what has been a very annoying week - apparently he was just giving him his towel according to DH but I could hear him with him in the bathroom talking to him for more time than I’d even deem necessary for his privacy. I think he was in there for a while which is so strange and unacceptable when he’s 10.

Is it? We stay with my 10yo when he's showering or bathing, and if he stays at my mum's she sits in the room with him while he has a bath. I don't see that as inappropriate or weird. It's for water safety.

thepariscrimefiles · 11/02/2025 10:22

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 09:15

This sounds like you're resentful that your FIL.isnt interested in you so you want to keep him away from your baby.

you've twisted him giving his grandson a towel into a potential sexual molestation of a child which is sick.

You admit that what he does with his other GC is in line with what their parents do anyway and the only person who has a problem with his behaviour is you, who he doesn't seem to like much.

I can see what you're doing here and it's very ugly. You'll probably get away with it but it should always bother you if you have any moral compass at all.

Some people won't like you. Get over it.

His behaviour while OP was pregnant and the breastfeeding comments are both massive red flags. What sort of man (other than the baby's father) touches a pregnant woman's belly without permission? What sort of man comments to a breastfeeding mum that she isn't feeding her baby enough and that he can't wait to give a 4 month old baby junk food?

The parents of the other children are fine with huge amounts of sugar/junk food but OP isn't and she has every right to say no to this and to keep her distance.

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 09:16

MoonWoman69 · 11/02/2025 08:41

I am astounded by the amount of people brushing off the grandfather being in the bathroom with a 10 year old boy while he's showering! WTF?!
I was raised in a safe, happy, loving home in the 70s. This would absolutely never have happened in my family.
As soon as I was independent enough to bathe or shower on my own, I was afforded privacy to do so!
Aside from his other weird behaviours, this has to be the most concerning.
I'd be letting the boys parents know as a soon as possible, he is massively overstepping boundaries with their child and if anyone even thinks this is normal behaviour, then frankly, they are as bad as him!

The OP said that he went.in to give him a towel but by HER ESTIMATION ONLY he took too long and said too many words.

CellophaneFlower · 11/02/2025 09:16

MoonWoman69 · 11/02/2025 08:41

I am astounded by the amount of people brushing off the grandfather being in the bathroom with a 10 year old boy while he's showering! WTF?!
I was raised in a safe, happy, loving home in the 70s. This would absolutely never have happened in my family.
As soon as I was independent enough to bathe or shower on my own, I was afforded privacy to do so!
Aside from his other weird behaviours, this has to be the most concerning.
I'd be letting the boys parents know as a soon as possible, he is massively overstepping boundaries with their child and if anyone even thinks this is normal behaviour, then frankly, they are as bad as him!

It's not brushing it off but the fact the OP states he's "been showering" him, implies he's actually washing him and it's happened more than once. Then she later posts it was one time, her husband said he just passed him a towel but she could hear them talking. That's quite a difference in my eyes.

Actually most things OP says seem to be exaggerated to me. A 4 month old given "screen time" when actually her 2 year old already has an iPad, which OP doesn't seem to mind. Touching her stomach as though he's trying to get the baby out. Constantly wanting to play with his grandchildren? How terrible.

I'm not doubting he's probably quite overbearing, possibly narcissistic and OP should lay down some rules, but it does strike me that she doesn't like her husband's family in the slightest and everything they do is going to rub her up the wrong way.

JustAskingThisQ · 11/02/2025 09:15

This sounds like you're resentful that your FIL.isnt interested in you so you want to keep him away from your baby.

you've twisted him giving his grandson a towel into a potential sexual molestation of a child which is sick.

You admit that what he does with his other GC is in line with what their parents do anyway and the only person who has a problem with his behaviour is you, who he doesn't seem to like much.

I can see what you're doing here and it's very ugly. You'll probably get away with it but it should always bother you if you have any moral compass at all.

Some people won't like you. Get over it.

MoonWoman69 · 11/02/2025 08:41

I am astounded by the amount of people brushing off the grandfather being in the bathroom with a 10 year old boy while he's showering! WTF?!
I was raised in a safe, happy, loving home in the 70s. This would absolutely never have happened in my family.
As soon as I was independent enough to bathe or shower on my own, I was afforded privacy to do so!
Aside from his other weird behaviours, this has to be the most concerning.
I'd be letting the boys parents know as a soon as possible, he is massively overstepping boundaries with their child and if anyone even thinks this is normal behaviour, then frankly, they are as bad as him!

MelodyFinch · 11/02/2025 07:07

Trust your instincts here.

Lotsofsnacks · 10/02/2025 22:30

Don’t be passive with this OP, you going to look like the bad guy, but stand up to FIL, every time!! No way would someone be taking over my baby's weaning and giving them screen time at a v v young age etc. How disrespectful to you as a parent. He should be doing learning play with your DS, if anything, not screen time! You need to get DH on side, and do not leave DS alone with FIL, listen to your gut.

Headstarttohappiness · 10/02/2025 22:25

YourWildAmberSloth · 09/02/2025 16:27

There was a thread recently, where many posters recounted instances of abuse in their childhoods, often signalled by weird, strange, creepy behaviour by adults which wasn't called out. Children placed in vulnerable situations, and adults who should be protecting them, complicitly turning a blind eye. This man's behaviour is not just weird but it has red flags all over it. OP, someone needs to step up/step in and protect the children in your family. Your skin is crawling for a reason.

Edited to add link to the thread.
www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/5269293-dad-hanging-round-outside-bathroom?page=15&reply=142036034

Edited

This absolutely this.
Professionally I have been safeguarding for a thirty years and my alarm bells rang very loudly reading this. It read like he is grooming the whole family to get this kind of access to the children under everyone’s noses. Clever, effective and cunning. If your SIL won’t stand up it makes it more difficult for you but you need to. For your child and the 10yr old too.
Be strong, firm and take action. Sending love and courage to you and your DH.