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Boss told me off for exclaiming Jesus Christ

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GloMum · 08/02/2025 14:55

The other day my boss told me off for exclaiming Jesus Christ when I was surprised during a work meeting. Boss told me it’s rude towards people from different religions and asked me if I’d done my DEI training. I have, and I enjoy friendships with colleagues from varied backgrounds. I feel really stressed now in case I slip again, and embarrassed I should be told off.

YABU - This is an inappropriate exclamation at work
YANBU - It’s just an exclamation and you shouldn’t be told off for that.

OP posts:
Drfosters · 08/02/2025 16:46

Not sure what that tells me- it doesn’t explain why it is insulting to someone? If you yourself believe something and find it insulting to do so and would affect your relationship with your god then don’t do it. How does someone else saying these words insult you? I can’t make the connection myself. Why do I care what other people say if they aren’t of my religion?

Patterncarmen · 08/02/2025 16:45

Over-righteousness is so addictive, isn’t it?

Next it will be suggested the Batman movies will be banned because Robin said…holy buckets Batman!

You can take offence at anything innocuous in an attempt to control others or to signal your supposed moral superiority. People also do it in an attempt to introduce censorship.

OP, your boss is ridiculous. I’d look for another employer.

OpheliaWasntMad · 08/02/2025 16:44

SecondMrsTanqueray · 08/02/2025 16:26

Jesus Christ! Is something I say all the time. Also Jesus fucking Christ! I was raised a Catholic, convent school educated (now proud atheist), and think anyone that takes offence is an uppity twat.
I had Irish parents so taking the lord’s name in vain is very normal and something I love about dyed in the wool Catholics. I don’t associate with anyone that would take offence, mind. The uppity CofE ‘Christians’ in my village would undoubtedly think it terribly un-Christian, but they are the very worst types and their opinions count for nowt.

Tolerance isn’t your strong point then 🙄

nationalsausagefund · 08/02/2025 16:43

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 16:30

Not at all. As I said upthread, if you've been following it, it's very strange for somebody to exclaim the name of somebody who is supposedly very precious to them in a negative or angry way.

Similarly, if another person used the name of somebody who is very dear to you in your earshot, when they bash their thumb with a hammer or drop and smash their phone.

It's immaterial whether that somebody is your God, your Mum, your Husband, your Daughter or anybody.

As a nation, the only thing we’ve nailed better than “your mum” jokes is your mum. I can’t say someone bellowing “Mrs Sausagefund” in anger would strike me as anything other than funny (or impressive, she had a notoriously unpronounceable name) – swearing and blasphemy can be gloriously creative uses of language, they shouldn’t be censored.

TheWorminLabyrinth · 08/02/2025 16:42

Foxgloverr · 08/02/2025 16:40

The point is that their lack of belief in blasphemy doesn't mean it ceases to exist in reality.

Well, no, my belief would still be the same whether I was in England or an "islamic" country. The difference is that I would suffer for my belief in an islamic country. Is that preferable to you?

OpheliaWasntMad · 08/02/2025 16:42

MemorableTrenchcoat · 08/02/2025 15:55

As a non-Christian, I am not subject to the commandments. Except the ones which are also actual laws. My Christian colleagues don’t get to dictate which words I use, just as I wouldn’t dream of dictating which words they use.

Yes - I know all that.
You absolutely have the right to offend.
But people also have the right to tell you when they find something offensive.
It’s up to you if you want to carry on doing it

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 16:42

SiobhanSharpe · 08/02/2025 16:36

Er, so this must be why Italians never say Mamma mia?
And they are not talking about Mary...

And do many Italian people have mothers whose actual names are 'Mamma Mia'?

I don't think the general word 'mother', when not directed at anybody else's mother in particular, is especially dear to most people, is it?

Screamingabdabz · 08/02/2025 16:42

I’m a Christian and often exclaim ‘oh God’ or ‘Jeez’ but I do flinch when I hear people say the whole ‘Jesus Christ’ in frustration. I don’t like it, and I tell my (adult) kids off if they say it, although I couldn’t care less about other swear words. It’s just a sensitivity because we are not supposed to take the Lord’s name in vain. Obviously if you’re not a believer it doesn’t matter to you, they’re just words, but it does create discomfort for those of us who believe Jesus Christ is Lord and saviour.

SecondMrsTanqueray · 08/02/2025 16:42

There was a time when that would have been considered very offensive in this country. I'm not a devout Christian but I don't like sweary people at work. It makes them seem shovey and aggressive. It says something about your tone and personality. I'd take your boss's advice onboard.

Jesus, you’d truly be pearl clutching in my workplace. We’re all highly qualified professionals (chartered fellows in 80% of my team) so you can’t blame it on low intelligence, but our language is deliciously bawdy. There’s not a day where someone doesn’t say ‘cunt’ and I don’t even notice the so-called blasphemy 😂

I can’t put it any better than Stephen Fry - ‘Swearing is a really important part of one's life. It would be impossible to imagine going through life without swearing and without enjoying swearing... There used to be mad, silly, prissy people who used to say swearing was a sign of a poor vocabulary -such utter nonsense. The people I know who swear the most tend to have the widest vocabularies and the kind of person who says swearing is a sign of a poor vocabulary usually have a pretty poor vocabulary themselves... The sort of twee person who thinks swearing is in any way a sign of a lack of education or a lack of verbal interest or -is just a fucking lunatic... I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous...’

TheWorminLabyrinth · 08/02/2025 16:41

Foxgloverr · 08/02/2025 16:36

Try going to an Islamic country, saying something blasphemous about Allah and see if saying "blasphemy doesn't exist to me" helps you.

This thread isn't about allah, or islamic countries, so I am not sure of your point.

Foxgloverr · 08/02/2025 16:40

SwedishEdith · 08/02/2025 16:39

But they're not in an Islamic country.

The point is that their lack of belief in blasphemy doesn't mean it ceases to exist in reality.

BobbyBiscuits · 08/02/2025 16:39

Ridiculous. Maybe you were quoting the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical? Or the 80s playground chant about a motorcycle and a pair of testicles? He'd probably love that...

PrincessSakura · 08/02/2025 16:39

Just say “cheese and rice” next time 😅

SwedishEdith · 08/02/2025 16:39

Foxgloverr · 08/02/2025 16:36

Try going to an Islamic country, saying something blasphemous about Allah and see if saying "blasphemy doesn't exist to me" helps you.

But they're not in an Islamic country.

yourmaw · 08/02/2025 16:39

pretty outrageous you actually need to ask. .Especially if dei done. .Regardless of which angle deems it offensive,.religion,blsphemy,make a fuss bout everything .Would you want your toddler. to say it. might help determine the bit your. missing.
shite fuck bollcks prob not ideal either. Prob even if continue not see issue,accountability n apology might be a consideration.

hairbearbunches · 08/02/2025 16:38

FFS. We're a secular society. Your boss is at fault for telling you off.

We are heading down a very dark road indeed when religion follows us into every building we walk into, not just church.

L0bstersLass · 08/02/2025 16:38

TheWorminLabyrinth · 08/02/2025 16:32

Blasphemous to you, maybe. I don't believe in this particular god, or any of the others, therefore blasphemy doesn't exist to me. I can't be compelled to moderate my speech so that it complies with a made-up set of rules and to avoid "blaspheming" against something that doesn't exist to me. That's ridiculous.

When you work in a corporate environment you absolutely can be compelled to moderate your speech. You can join in with the rules or fuck off and work somewhere else.

fruitbrewhaha · 08/02/2025 16:38

What a dull work culture you have there OP. Perhaps ask if there is a policy on suitable exclamations so you don’t misstep.

I used to work in The City and quite frankly, if you hadn’t heard someone being referred to as ‘a fucking cunt’ by 8am there was probably something seriously wrong. I liked it. Get your anger and frustration out there. It’s just words.

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 16:37

SiobhanSharpe · 08/02/2025 16:32

I have to say that, it's a poor religion that cannot take criticism from within or without, and the three major Abrahamic religions of the world in particular have much to answer for in our common history.
if we want to criticise any facet of these faiths, and there is certainly much to hold up to the light, we should be able to.
It's not 'hateful', and not even blasphemous, to point out and condemn abuses within the Christian churches, or how Orthodox Judaism and some parts of Islam regard women and their rights.

Nobody is saying that you can't criticise religions, if you have actual points that you want to make.

It's just that exclaiming the name of a God or Prophet whom many people hold precious, in place of a swear word, is not criticism - many more than shouting "Your Mum!" At somebody in the schoolyard is intelligent debate or sensibly raising points of concern.

SiobhanSharpe · 08/02/2025 16:36

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 16:30

Not at all. As I said upthread, if you've been following it, it's very strange for somebody to exclaim the name of somebody who is supposedly very precious to them in a negative or angry way.

Similarly, if another person used the name of somebody who is very dear to you in your earshot, when they bash their thumb with a hammer or drop and smash their phone.

It's immaterial whether that somebody is your God, your Mum, your Husband, your Daughter or anybody.

Er, so this must be why Italians never say Mamma mia?
And they are not talking about Mary...

Foxgloverr · 08/02/2025 16:36

TheWorminLabyrinth · 08/02/2025 16:32

Blasphemous to you, maybe. I don't believe in this particular god, or any of the others, therefore blasphemy doesn't exist to me. I can't be compelled to moderate my speech so that it complies with a made-up set of rules and to avoid "blaspheming" against something that doesn't exist to me. That's ridiculous.

Try going to an Islamic country, saying something blasphemous about Allah and see if saying "blasphemy doesn't exist to me" helps you.

Porcuporpoise · 08/02/2025 16:35

ClockingOffers · 08/02/2025 16:28

Bollocks they can! 😂

There is no law that supports your assertion so feck off with your made-up nonsense.

On the contrary. Business can have (and define) all sorts of professional standards including things like no blasphemy and no swearing and people can (and have been) dismissed for not following them. There have been plenty of employment tribunals to test and prove the idea. You might not be up in court for your language in the workplace but you can well be out of a job.

L0bstersLass · 08/02/2025 16:34

I've got a proper potty mouth but I manage to rein it in at work and even I wouldn't say Jesus Christ. It's out of order.

You need to turn your casual-swearing filter on when you're at work.

SiobhanSharpe · 08/02/2025 16:32

I have to say that, it's a poor religion that cannot take criticism from within or without, and the three major Abrahamic religions of the world in particular have much to answer for in our common history.
if we want to criticise any facet of these faiths, and there is certainly much to hold up to the light, we should be able to.
It's not 'hateful', and not even blasphemous, to point out and condemn abuses within the Christian churches, or how Orthodox Judaism and some parts of Islam regard women and their rights.