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Boss told me off for exclaiming Jesus Christ

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GloMum · 08/02/2025 14:55

The other day my boss told me off for exclaiming Jesus Christ when I was surprised during a work meeting. Boss told me it’s rude towards people from different religions and asked me if I’d done my DEI training. I have, and I enjoy friendships with colleagues from varied backgrounds. I feel really stressed now in case I slip again, and embarrassed I should be told off.

YABU - This is an inappropriate exclamation at work
YANBU - It’s just an exclamation and you shouldn’t be told off for that.

OP posts:
DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 17:17

Of course, Jesus didn't exists in Old Testament times, so wasn't "the Lord" then, That's be rather backfilled.

Of course, you don't believe any of it at all, which you're perfectly entitled not to do; but the Bible does indeed clearly state that Jesus, as part of the Godhead, existed in Old Testament times - so that isn't quite the gotcha that you may have thought it would be to a Bible-believing Christian.

OneLilacGuide · 08/02/2025 17:16

Like many posters have said, an exclamation like that isn’t very suitable for a workplace meeting.

I wonder if your boss has been pulled up for something DEI related and is extra worried now.

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2025 17:16

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2025 17:11

Think of this this way, my mum no effect on your life, no influence at all.

But as an atheist, I happily celebrate the two months of birthday celebrations for Jesus, eat chocolate and hot cross buns at Easter. I had prayers in school, Nativity is still there. Bishops in the Lords. Head of the country is head of the CoE and on and on. Atheists are told we should be OK with this because we are 'culturally Christian'. OK so I should get to culturally use words associated with that religion? After all, they are part of my culture but not my religion, so I'm not blaspheming. No? Why?

Never ever bring logic anywhere near religion. They don't play nicely together and logic always loses out.

TheWombatleague · 08/02/2025 17:16

Whippetlovely · 08/02/2025 17:10

Your mums an arsehole

Do you find apostrophes offensive?

Ilovetowander · 08/02/2025 17:15

It doesn't matter about who is is blaspheming surely. If you had used a jewish phrase that was blasphemous then it would be seen as being wrong so why is it different if it is a christian phrase.

Boredlass · 08/02/2025 17:15

Ridiculous. I’d have rolled my eyes but I despise religion

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2025 17:14

Really the boss here isn't that bright.

The correct way forwards would have been to simply note that generally loud exclamations aren't encouraged. No matter what they are. That's my suggestion in an open shared office.

And a "loud exclamation" would be one that could be heard by persons uninvolved in the conversation. Especially if it's a conversation of one person.

That would avoid the need for a discussion about religion, language, culture, and history that would be well beyond the expectations of the company and a serious dent in the working day.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 08/02/2025 17:14

It's not swearing, but it's that type of phrase not suitable for the workplace really. Not sure why, particularly as I don't believe. Probably just hear my granny telling me off for using the Lords name in vain. Gish, I miss those days.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2025 17:12

BTW the 'cultural Christianity' aspect is also why the false equivalency with Islam is stupid.

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:12

Whippetlovely · 08/02/2025 17:10

Your mums an arsehole

Quite possibly…

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2025 17:11

DalzielOrNoDalzielAndDontPascoe · 08/02/2025 16:17

Do the objecters to "Jesus Christ" also not like "Jeeze" or "Jeeze Louise" etc?

They're not really that different in reality - everybody knows what you're getting at.

Supposing somebody decided to start shouting or exclaiming your Mum's name as a negative expression when something negative happened - would it make much difference to you if they changed it to (e.g.) 'Moany Joany Perkins!' or 'Joan Perkins on a bike!' ?

Think of this this way, my mum no effect on your life, no influence at all.

But as an atheist, I happily celebrate the two months of birthday celebrations for Jesus, eat chocolate and hot cross buns at Easter. I had prayers in school, Nativity is still there. Bishops in the Lords. Head of the country is head of the CoE and on and on. Atheists are told we should be OK with this because we are 'culturally Christian'. OK so I should get to culturally use words associated with that religion? After all, they are part of my culture but not my religion, so I'm not blaspheming. No? Why?

Anytimeisfine · 08/02/2025 17:11

heyhopotato · 08/02/2025 16:07

You're not a real Christian.

That’s a much more offensive statement than OP’s was.

Whippetlovely · 08/02/2025 17:10

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:08

No why would it? Why would I police their opinion of my mum.

Edited

Your mums an arsehole

Marchitectmummy · 08/02/2025 17:10

TuesdayRubies · 08/02/2025 14:59

Imagine getting offended by blasphemy in this day and age 🤣

Does that apply to all religions or judt Christianity?

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2025 17:10

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:00

Right you have explained why it would be offensive for someone else who is a Christian to use the terms but not for someone who is a non- believer.

how does it affect you if you hear someone say these words if they themselves don’t believe in the religion? What specifically is offensive? How does it affect your personal relationship with god?

It's a topsy turvey world when an atheist is read as an expert on Christianity ...

(Admittedly I have read the Bible.)

nationalsausagefund · 08/02/2025 17:09

GloMum · 08/02/2025 16:58

Hi, this is an honest question - why do so many of you put a sign of equality between my exclamation and swearing at the workplace? I understand why and how my exclamation might be offensive but I wouldn’t say it’s the same as using cynicisms.

For context, the expression didn’t contain any negative connotation - just surprise one of our teammates is leaving the company.

Interesting! So it was a “Jesus Christ, hooray!” not a “Jesus fucking Christ, not again”? I wonder if that changes people’s views. I think I assumed negative as I’d use “oh my God!” for positive news and “Jesus wept” for negative stuff.

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:08

Whippetlovely · 08/02/2025 17:07

If someone called your mum an arsehole would that piss you off??

No why would it? Why would I police their opinion of my mum.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 08/02/2025 17:07

Not appropriate in a meeting, I wouldn’t think ‘oh my gos’ or damn etc appropriate in a meeting either. A meeting is formal and so language should be professional. I wouldn’t think a big deal if said generally in the office though, so if your laptop wouldn’t switch on and you said it for example.

IllustratedDictionaryOfTheDoldrums · 08/02/2025 17:07

I'm an atheist and say "Jesus Christ" on occasion, but agree with your boss. It is a form of swearing and Christians may well be upset by it. It's not appropriate in a work setting.
Depends what the telling off was. If it was a simple "Don't say that in the office please" then YABU, if it was made to be a massive deal, then you'd have a point.

Whippetlovely · 08/02/2025 17:07

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:00

Right you have explained why it would be offensive for someone else who is a Christian to use the terms but not for someone who is a non- believer.

how does it affect you if you hear someone say these words if they themselves don’t believe in the religion? What specifically is offensive? How does it affect your personal relationship with god?

If someone called your mum an arsehole would that piss you off??

Justhere65 · 08/02/2025 17:06

I would be offended by that and maybe practice better self control whilst at work? It is not very professional.

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2025 17:03

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:00

Right you have explained why it would be offensive for someone else who is a Christian to use the terms but not for someone who is a non- believer.

how does it affect you if you hear someone say these words if they themselves don’t believe in the religion? What specifically is offensive? How does it affect your personal relationship with god?

If only religions were about peoples personal relationship with God. Maybe we'd head a lot less about them then.

You can blame the "Good News" for that. If I were to be really snarky I would suggest that was sneaked into the gospels by someone who really hoped it would piss enough people off to ensure the new fangled Jewish cult didn't survive.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2025 17:02

Jellyslothbridge · 08/02/2025 15:54

I am always surprised that people who do not believe in God include it so much in their daily language.

As the wonderful and eloquent Sir Terry Pratchett said,

“When you hit your thumb with an eight-pound hammer it’s nice to be able to blaspheme. It takes a very special and strong-minded atheist to jump up and down with their hand clasped under their other armpit and shout, ‘Oh, random-fluctuations-in-the-space-time-continuum!’ or ‘Aaargh, primitive-and-outmoded-concept of a crutch!”

InterIgnis · 08/02/2025 17:01

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Other countries and languages have their own versions of ‘oh my god!’, used as an exclamation, that reflect their own religious heritages.

Drfosters · 08/02/2025 17:00

SerendipityJane · 08/02/2025 16:56

There is a commandment in the Old Testament (you know, the one a lot of Christians pretend they don't believe in) about taking the lords name in vain.

Of course, Jesus didn't exists in Old Testament times, so wasn't "the Lord" then, That's be rather backfilled.

Also, I'm a little vague about the phrase "in vain". I personally suspect it meant you shouldn't use the name of the Lord as a means to convey sincerity (i.e. you shouldn't say "I swear by God that is true"). However given I don't claim any expertise whatsoever - it's not like I am the Archbishop of Canterbury - I'm not going to press the idea.

Right you have explained why it would be offensive for someone else who is a Christian to use the terms but not for someone who is a non- believer.

how does it affect you if you hear someone say these words if they themselves don’t believe in the religion? What specifically is offensive? How does it affect your personal relationship with god?