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Is this speech delay in a 24 months ?

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Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 08:50

My 24 DD has lots of words , uses 2 / 3 word sentences to express her needs , can answer simple where’s , what’s question by either pointing or using the correct word , who’s simple question but can’t make a choice between two options . If I ask her open ended questions like : What do you want or which one ? She answers yes . She can’t understand questions like “ what did you do today etc
she can understand instructions like : get dolly and bring it to mummy , put food on the plate , take your socks off etc . She uses a bit of jargon as well .
she also has some learned phrases . If something scares her she says “ don’t worry, it is all good “ that she learned from us or if she throws a toy she looks at me and says “ sorry “ . I know scripting and echolalia are a red flag that needs looking into . I have expressed my concerned to the HV who put in a referral to the speech therapist and paediatrician that was denied on the basis that there is nothing atypical in her language development.
am I worrying too much ?

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GloriousBlue · 09/02/2025 11:49

@Firstimemum24

All mums are a first time mum when they have their first.
Not all mums obsess over non existent problems

Listen to what everyone is saying, and consider getting help for your anxiety. It will damage your child.

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 11:35

Have you posted about this before?

Itisbetter · 09/02/2025 11:30

How many people need to tell you this is fine?

I suspect you have hyper focused on language development because it allows you to emote and obsess and is fed by well meaning reassurances. If you really want to help your child then it would be good to ask for support to understand your own behaviour. Collection all the threads you have started on this or other worries, make a note of all the conversations you have had with friends and healthcare professionals and take them with you to a Dr and ask them to help you understand what is happening. They may be able to put your mind at rest or possibly see that there might be more behind the behaviour.

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 11:29

This really annoys me. Parents saying their child has a speech delay and then lists all the things they can actually say where my son who is three in a couple of days only says a couple of words and sometimes doesn't say a word all day. Just noises. Your child sounds fine, OP.

Sorry rant over. 😬

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:26

Again all normal. Please either stop worrying or if you can't try to get some help for your anxiety OP Flowers

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 11:22

Thanks for your kids words .. it is very worrying because as a first time mum I don’t know what normal . She can answer yes or no questions but she is still a bit iffy on that . She replies okay when I ask her something and no for when she doesn’t want it but rarely you hear her says yes

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TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:19

That's why nursery rhymes etc are so useful.

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 11:18

'So a normal language development includes a bit of both learned phrases and spontaneous ones ?'

Of course!!

2025ohdear · 09/02/2025 11:11

No speech delay. My DD had a speech delay and you're nowhere near it. My DDs resolved itself eventually and she's now at university and very chatty.

Try not to worry. I get the anxiety though. Two to three words at age two is tremendous and the real indicator all is fine.

GloriousBlue · 09/02/2025 11:08

Sounds entirely normal

Actually, ahead of my DS at 2

He's now 5, and bright as a button, and doing great at school

Enjoy your child. I know that's easier said than done, but your thought process and anxiety seem to be taking away from your parenting experience.

Lyn348 · 09/02/2025 10:59

Just enjoy your child OP, most people wouldn't even know what GLP is and scrutinising everything your child says isn't helpful to anyone. She's only 2 years old, read to her, sing nursery rhymes with her and narrate your day with her. Stop worrying about the teeny tiny details. It's normal for a two year old to use echolalia.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

Echolalia in children: Everything you need to know

Claire Smith from Speech and Language UK lets us know all about echolalia, where children repeat things they hear, and when your child might need extra support.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/tiny-happy-people/articles/z9p4jfr

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:57

TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 10:32

OP you're just describing normal child development.

The only thing you really SHOULD be worrying about and trying to resolve is your own anxiety.

So a normal language development includes a bit of both learned phrases and spontaneous ones ?

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TuesdayRubies · 09/02/2025 10:32

OP you're just describing normal child development.

The only thing you really SHOULD be worrying about and trying to resolve is your own anxiety.

Itisbetter · 09/02/2025 10:27

Why do you “have to be aware of” a child pretending to have long conversations on a phone? (Weirdly the “pretend play” that nd tend not to engage in, but there you go.)

What are you thinking actually happens if your child does experience developmental delay?

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:09

Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 09:30

Honestly OP, this is the next in a long list of multiple posts and threads you've posted where again you're determined there is something developmentally wrong with your child when all you've done is list behaviours and skills that are normal in a child of her age.

Its been explained before that young children can't understand open ended questions. It's normal to be anxious about children but the level of anxiety and obsession you have of being determined something is "wrong" with your child is unhealthy and I think will start to impact your relationship with your child. Instead of just enjoying a normal developing child, you're nit picking and micro focusing on problems that aren't there.

When are you going to stop this? Have you got help and support for your anxiety because I feel you'll never let this go and your poor child will just be subjected to every single little behaviour being scrutinised. Multiple professionals now and posters have told you from what you write your child is developing normally, why are you so obsessed with their having to be something wrong?

That was not my intention to come as obsessive. I was merely trying to understand how GLP work as my DD has still some
unintelligible long conversations and I know it is one of the things you have to be aware of . Like when she is pretending to be on the phone

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Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 09:30

Honestly OP, this is the next in a long list of multiple posts and threads you've posted where again you're determined there is something developmentally wrong with your child when all you've done is list behaviours and skills that are normal in a child of her age.

Its been explained before that young children can't understand open ended questions. It's normal to be anxious about children but the level of anxiety and obsession you have of being determined something is "wrong" with your child is unhealthy and I think will start to impact your relationship with your child. Instead of just enjoying a normal developing child, you're nit picking and micro focusing on problems that aren't there.

When are you going to stop this? Have you got help and support for your anxiety because I feel you'll never let this go and your poor child will just be subjected to every single little behaviour being scrutinised. Multiple professionals now and posters have told you from what you write your child is developing normally, why are you so obsessed with their having to be something wrong?

Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 18:02

SLTalright · 08/02/2025 17:54

Hi OP, I work in a child development service and what you are describing seems to me to be exactly what we would expect a 24 month old to do. Has somebody qualified told you that they should be able to respond coherently to choices at this point? We allow an huge range of timeframes for these things to develop, a few small things in isolation are never a worry and completely normal. Even if they did have the language ability, most 2 yo would want both choices and just grab at both anyway and choices would change.

It’s normal to copy sentences that are heard often when learning by to speak. What you’ve described doesn’t match our description of echolalia where I am based but maybe you didn’t use all the examples… for echolalia we would be looking for quite long sentences of scripted speech with the exact same intonation, usually extracts from books or television shows, and generally we would be thinking it looks like echolalia when it surpasses the ability of the child’s language development and doesn’t match up to what they are able to do outside of the echolalia.

if it’s been reviewed and not accepted, that is because there are no problems that need exploring right now

Hi and thank you so much for your answer and to answer your question :”no” it was another mum and it got me a bit worried . As for the echolalia , she never picks up lines from books or tv , just what we say but in isolation like “ don’t worry mamma or the word “ almost “ she heard from my husband when watching football about scoring and every time there is football on tv she says * almost “

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SLTalright · 08/02/2025 17:54

Hi OP, I work in a child development service and what you are describing seems to me to be exactly what we would expect a 24 month old to do. Has somebody qualified told you that they should be able to respond coherently to choices at this point? We allow an huge range of timeframes for these things to develop, a few small things in isolation are never a worry and completely normal. Even if they did have the language ability, most 2 yo would want both choices and just grab at both anyway and choices would change.

It’s normal to copy sentences that are heard often when learning by to speak. What you’ve described doesn’t match our description of echolalia where I am based but maybe you didn’t use all the examples… for echolalia we would be looking for quite long sentences of scripted speech with the exact same intonation, usually extracts from books or television shows, and generally we would be thinking it looks like echolalia when it surpasses the ability of the child’s language development and doesn’t match up to what they are able to do outside of the echolalia.

if it’s been reviewed and not accepted, that is because there are no problems that need exploring right now

Allybob88 · 08/02/2025 17:43

Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 17:01

Does your little one still use a bit of jargon when talking fast ?

Oh yes and there are certainly things only we know what she is saying 🙂

Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 17:01

Allybob88 · 08/02/2025 09:45

She sounds exactly like my 23 month old 🙂 and I'm not worried at all and neither are nursery. In fact nursery tell me how good her speech is. She can answer a simple 'wheres the car?' type question but she couldn't tell me what she did at nursery.
She will say pre learned phrases such as 'there it is!' but can also put 3 words together of her choice. For example 'mama baby sleeping'.
I don't think you should be worried at all.

Does your little one still use a bit of jargon when talking fast ?

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Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/02/2025 16:26

Itisbetter · 08/02/2025 16:23

I would have to disagree.

Ok I don't think this ongoing debate is useful to OP. Your little girl sounds absolutely lovely, try not to worry I am sure you are doing all the right things ( reading, singing playgroups) enjoy her they grow up so fast.

Itisbetter · 08/02/2025 16:23

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/02/2025 16:07

I think we are agreeing most children repeat words and some phrases as part of normal development. I would not describe that as echolalia ( which I understand as repetition without meaning- like a verbal stim), but I can see some definitions do. Reciting great chunks of language rather than single sentences is not typical, neither is multiple repetitions of a single word.

I would have to disagree.

Glamiss · 08/02/2025 16:10

Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 15:47

Yes I think so .. for example is she needs help she comes towards me and uses the word “help me “ . She tells me what she sees in books or outside and she request food by asking for it like today I gave her lunch with a sandwich and pork and egg meatballs . She looked at me said “ no” and asked for “ carrot

I think my autistic and slightly speech delayed child would have done none of those things. He referred to himself as I for quite a long time too ("help I").

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/02/2025 16:07

I think we are agreeing most children repeat words and some phrases as part of normal development. I would not describe that as echolalia ( which I understand as repetition without meaning- like a verbal stim), but I can see some definitions do. Reciting great chunks of language rather than single sentences is not typical, neither is multiple repetitions of a single word.

Itisbetter · 08/02/2025 15:59

Neurodiversitydoctor · 08/02/2025 15:28

Ummm I don't think this is completely true. Repeating words is normal- it's all about whether they understand what they are saying and are using words and phrases in context. Google gestalt language acquisition.

I’m not sure what you think I’ll learn from googling the term you suggested. As I said in my previous post these are common stages in the acquisition of language and not Red flags for anything (unless they persist rather than are transitory). The equivalence to crawling is good. In normal development most children crawl then cruise then walk. For some time they crawl if in a hurry or uncertain but they leave it behind as being upright proves its advantage (being able to see further, carry with both hands etc etc) but most children outgrow it and if it persists there may be a difference worth investigating. Some of course don’t crawl and instead bum shuffle then progress and fewer still never crawl or walk.
@Firstimemum24 s child as described in her first post seems unremarkable (in a nothing to worry about way).