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Is this speech delay in a 24 months ?

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Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 08:50

My 24 DD has lots of words , uses 2 / 3 word sentences to express her needs , can answer simple where’s , what’s question by either pointing or using the correct word , who’s simple question but can’t make a choice between two options . If I ask her open ended questions like : What do you want or which one ? She answers yes . She can’t understand questions like “ what did you do today etc
she can understand instructions like : get dolly and bring it to mummy , put food on the plate , take your socks off etc . She uses a bit of jargon as well .
she also has some learned phrases . If something scares her she says “ don’t worry, it is all good “ that she learned from us or if she throws a toy she looks at me and says “ sorry “ . I know scripting and echolalia are a red flag that needs looking into . I have expressed my concerned to the HV who put in a referral to the speech therapist and paediatrician that was denied on the basis that there is nothing atypical in her language development.
am I worrying too much ?

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Oioisavaloy27 · 11/02/2025 21:42

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 17:35

I am just trying to understand my little one .
she doesn’t look like the typical toddler in that she is quirky . I am suspecting High functioning because some of her traits I have never seen in other kids . She uses delayed echolalia when greeting her dad from work . She looks at him and says “ where is the hole ? There is was a hole in her cot a few months ago and he would say to her “ where is the hole gone ? and she would always ask him “ where is the hole ?
is it something you see often ?

It's like you want something to be wrong when there's nothing wrong! Get a grip!

BeachRide · 11/02/2025 21:21

I remember your previous thread. Going away now.

Glamiss · 11/02/2025 20:28

"delayed echolalia"? This is doing my head in, I'm hiding the thread.

OP so many people have taken time to reassure you and you just ignore it all and ping off into something else your daughter hasn't completely evidenced mastery of yet. You quoted @Laoise542 but you seem to have ignored a lot of her post in your focus on cutlery, so I'm just going to remind you of her final paragraph:

"Absolutely none of this is healthy or in the realm of normal anxiety for a parent. And I speak as someone who had anxiety. Rather than obsessively seeking reassurance snd reading articles, the best way you can support your daughter, is come offline, engage and play with your daughter without scrutinising every behaviour and seek support and help for your anxiety."

TuesdayRubies · 11/02/2025 20:11

I don't think there's anything anyone can say to reassure the OP at this point . The reassurance just seems to be feeding the anxiety. OP please get help from your doctor for your own mental health and stop obsessing over normal 2 yo behaviour.

merryhouse · 11/02/2025 18:52

OP, the very post you were responding to pointed out how you scatter off to another thing you might be worried about...

(this particular one is your daughter reinforcing the special relationship she has with her daddy by repetition of their little in-joke - whether that's neurotypical for being aware of social mores or neurodivergent for focusing on tiny details who knows)

Anyway, if there is something Quirky going on, the best thing you can do is meet your child where she is. If she wants to have an in-joke with daddy, that's lovely. If she wants to have imaginary phone conversations, that's great! (particularly when you look at the stats on the number of young people who Can't Talk On The Phone Grin) If she wants to recite things over and over, teach her a plethora of nursery rhymes and songs and poems. If she'd rather play by herself than join in a game with someone else, don't force it.

mitogoshigg · 11/02/2025 17:47

At 24 months some dc have no language and many only have one word at a time speech. Please don't worry

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 17:35

SLTalright · 11/02/2025 17:26

OP it sounds as though reassurance isn’t really making any difference to how you are viewing this. I’ve noticed that whenever anyone gives you sound advice about how literally everything you’ve described is just normal, you say thank you but then list a completely unrelated (and still normal) aspects of a 2 year old.

stranger danger is good and normal, being silly and getting excited and talking gibberish is the exact description of what a 2 yo should be doing, not being able to use cutlery (especially when a parent sits and feeds them), having specific food preferences and fussy eating, copying sentences, being unable to choose when given options .. literally normal. I honestly don’t know what you are implying you think is wrong when you describe these things. If your child had a severe Learning disability you would have more indication of this by now. I wasn’t sure if you were alluding to that you thought your child had autism in your posts to begin with but actually you’re not describing anything we would be thinking about for that. No evidence of speech delay. Referrals rejected for there being no reason for the referral.. what do you think will change your mind?

Do you think it might be better to go to speak to someone about how you manage your anxiety? Because you can guarantee that putting this pressure on your child (which they will pick up on) will eventually lead to them having problems (mental health or behavioural and relational), even when there was nothing wrong in the first place. The very thing you’re so desperate to avoid is the thing that will end up happening because of the way you are approaching it.

I am just trying to understand my little one .
she doesn’t look like the typical toddler in that she is quirky . I am suspecting High functioning because some of her traits I have never seen in other kids . She uses delayed echolalia when greeting her dad from work . She looks at him and says “ where is the hole ? There is was a hole in her cot a few months ago and he would say to her “ where is the hole gone ? and she would always ask him “ where is the hole ?
is it something you see often ?

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SLTalright · 11/02/2025 17:26

OP it sounds as though reassurance isn’t really making any difference to how you are viewing this. I’ve noticed that whenever anyone gives you sound advice about how literally everything you’ve described is just normal, you say thank you but then list a completely unrelated (and still normal) aspects of a 2 year old.

stranger danger is good and normal, being silly and getting excited and talking gibberish is the exact description of what a 2 yo should be doing, not being able to use cutlery (especially when a parent sits and feeds them), having specific food preferences and fussy eating, copying sentences, being unable to choose when given options .. literally normal. I honestly don’t know what you are implying you think is wrong when you describe these things. If your child had a severe Learning disability you would have more indication of this by now. I wasn’t sure if you were alluding to that you thought your child had autism in your posts to begin with but actually you’re not describing anything we would be thinking about for that. No evidence of speech delay. Referrals rejected for there being no reason for the referral.. what do you think will change your mind?

Do you think it might be better to go to speak to someone about how you manage your anxiety? Because you can guarantee that putting this pressure on your child (which they will pick up on) will eventually lead to them having problems (mental health or behavioural and relational), even when there was nothing wrong in the first place. The very thing you’re so desperate to avoid is the thing that will end up happening because of the way you are approaching it.

Oioisavaloy27 · 11/02/2025 14:17

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 13:01

I understand your point but , for example , on the food front she eats a good variety because I feed her most of the time . She wouldn’t touch it otherwise . We are still struggling with cutlery

FFS she's only 24 months!!! You sound neurotic, please go to the GP and get some help.

Itisbetter · 11/02/2025 14:13

2 year olds rarely use cutlery. I think you are unreasonable.

ByHazelPeer · 11/02/2025 13:24

Kindly OP, I’m not sure you understand what a speech delay is. Have you had a look at where a typically developing 2 year old should ideally be? In your post you’ve pretty much described it. Understanding wh questions is a major milestone that your DC has already reached.

Choosing between two things can be a very abstract thing for some children to grasp as a concept. Especially if they’re two motivators. You could try and take something completely non-motivating, such as a tea towel, and then take a doll and just place the doll further forwards as you give your DC the ‘choice’, and in theory this is errorless choice.

My 3.5 year old has an overall significant communication delay and very atypical language acquisition, so if I were in your position I wouldn’t be worried at this point in time. All children have their individual personalities and don’t go by the book. From 2-4 years language can also really explode. Just keep speaking and reading and using everyday language and she’ll pick it up.

DemonicCaveMaggot · 11/02/2025 13:07

It's not unusual at all for children of that age to prefer to play alongside other children rather than with them. I have twins and they didn't play together until they were 3 or 4 and then they could maybe go 30 minutes to an hour before a row developed.

One of my DC didn't say anything at all until they turned two and suddenly started talking in sentences. Starting with several words and gradually building is a smooth development pattern, sudden jagged development steps can be a sign of autism and indeed my DC got a late autism diagnosis as a teenager.

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 13:01

Laoise542 · 11/02/2025 12:36

But you do come across this way. You don't seem to account for the fact your daughter is an individual with her own personality who will develop at her own rate. The way you describe her sounds like she's some sort of labatory rat who is having every single minute behaviour and interaction over analysed and scrutinised to meet some sort of insane expectation you have a 2 year old to think she's "normal"

All of us have been first time mums and worry about development but there would be clear red flags by now if there was anything to be concerned about and everything you post doesn't indicate this. It just simply isn't normal or healthy to watch your daughter have a pretend phone call and think "what is the GLP process meant to be here".

You have incredibly high expectations for a 2 year old. You post on historic threads constantly wanting update. Thread after thread of long lists of what a varied diet your child eats yet you seem to think this indicates a sensory eating disorder. Thinking they have adhd because they don't sit still (normal for a toddler), thinking they have autism because they don't join in an activity or are nervous around new people which is again normal toddler behaviour. Over analysing her decision making and what choices she makes.

Absolutely none of this is healthy or in the realm of normal anxiety for a parent. And I speak as someone who had anxiety. Rather than obsessively seeking reassurance snd reading articles, the best way you can support your daughter, is come offline, engage and play with your daughter without scrutinising every behaviour and seek support and help for your anxiety.

I understand your point but , for example , on the food front she eats a good variety because I feed her most of the time . She wouldn’t touch it otherwise . We are still struggling with cutlery

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Laoise542 · 11/02/2025 12:36

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 10:12

Hi
I honestly don’t think I am becoming obsessive over this . I am just trying to get some perspective here . My little one has other traits like not wanting ever to join activities with other kids , let alone the activity itself and we have been trying since she was 16 months .

But you do come across this way. You don't seem to account for the fact your daughter is an individual with her own personality who will develop at her own rate. The way you describe her sounds like she's some sort of labatory rat who is having every single minute behaviour and interaction over analysed and scrutinised to meet some sort of insane expectation you have a 2 year old to think she's "normal"

All of us have been first time mums and worry about development but there would be clear red flags by now if there was anything to be concerned about and everything you post doesn't indicate this. It just simply isn't normal or healthy to watch your daughter have a pretend phone call and think "what is the GLP process meant to be here".

You have incredibly high expectations for a 2 year old. You post on historic threads constantly wanting update. Thread after thread of long lists of what a varied diet your child eats yet you seem to think this indicates a sensory eating disorder. Thinking they have adhd because they don't sit still (normal for a toddler), thinking they have autism because they don't join in an activity or are nervous around new people which is again normal toddler behaviour. Over analysing her decision making and what choices she makes.

Absolutely none of this is healthy or in the realm of normal anxiety for a parent. And I speak as someone who had anxiety. Rather than obsessively seeking reassurance snd reading articles, the best way you can support your daughter, is come offline, engage and play with your daughter without scrutinising every behaviour and seek support and help for your anxiety.

Itisbetter · 11/02/2025 10:25

Well if you try to make your 2 year old behave like a 4 year old you are going to find her lacking.

Firstimemum24 · 11/02/2025 10:12

Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 09:30

Honestly OP, this is the next in a long list of multiple posts and threads you've posted where again you're determined there is something developmentally wrong with your child when all you've done is list behaviours and skills that are normal in a child of her age.

Its been explained before that young children can't understand open ended questions. It's normal to be anxious about children but the level of anxiety and obsession you have of being determined something is "wrong" with your child is unhealthy and I think will start to impact your relationship with your child. Instead of just enjoying a normal developing child, you're nit picking and micro focusing on problems that aren't there.

When are you going to stop this? Have you got help and support for your anxiety because I feel you'll never let this go and your poor child will just be subjected to every single little behaviour being scrutinised. Multiple professionals now and posters have told you from what you write your child is developing normally, why are you so obsessed with their having to be something wrong?

Hi
I honestly don’t think I am becoming obsessive over this . I am just trying to get some perspective here . My little one has other traits like not wanting ever to join activities with other kids , let alone the activity itself and we have been trying since she was 16 months .

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NuffSaidSam · 10/02/2025 14:43

Firstimemum24 · 08/02/2025 12:18

thank you ☺️ I guess I am a bit concerned about her inability to choose between two options . Like if I ask do you want bunny or dolly ? She first gravitates toward bunny but then grabs dolly as well 😏

I struggle to choose between two things that I want and I'm a grown up!

Why does she have to choose between her dolly and her bunny?

Perhaps it's not that she doesn't understand, she just can't yet tell you what a stupid question it is?!

Firstimemum24 · 10/02/2025 14:38

FacingTheWall · 09/02/2025 14:14

Specialist speech and language teacher here - we would expect about 20% of 3&4 year olds to still struggle with what/where/who type questions, and making a choice is also beyond them, especially because at 2 they usually want both things. Since she can say no when she doesn’t want something then she clearly can make a choice.

You really do have nothing to worry about. She sounds like she’s making good progress.

Thank you so much for your answer xx. She is a very cautious child and runs away from stranger but when new people are in the house she tends to show off and starts singing nursery rhymes and gibberish .. she doesn’t go to nursery

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AnnaD2 · 09/02/2025 23:12

Early years SLT and Mum of older kids here - your child sounds like she is doing really well with her communication development. Nothing you have said would cause me to be concerned. Repetition of words and phrases is often part of neurotypical language development. Enjoy this age - it is over too soon!

mummyh2016 · 09/02/2025 19:53

Honestly she sounds like she's on the right track. And I say this as a mom with 2 children that were sent for SALT assessments. DD was under then for 4 years (she had her assessment just before Covid and then didn't see anyone for 12 months - I don't think she'd have been with them for anywhere near as long otherwise). DS has just turned 3, had an assessment with them 4 months ago and was discharged there and then.
If she has a dummy I'd get rid if you have any concerns regarding speech. DD wasn't removed until after her first assessment, DS we removed last summer and his speech came on so much in those 2 months. He goes to nursery and he went from being on a daily speech plan to being removed from it altogether before the assessment. He only had it at nighttime so wouldn't have thought it would make that much difference but it clearly did.

FacingTheWall · 09/02/2025 14:14

Specialist speech and language teacher here - we would expect about 20% of 3&4 year olds to still struggle with what/where/who type questions, and making a choice is also beyond them, especially because at 2 they usually want both things. Since she can say no when she doesn’t want something then she clearly can make a choice.

You really do have nothing to worry about. She sounds like she’s making good progress.

Laoise542 · 09/02/2025 13:22

Firstimemum24 · 09/02/2025 10:09

That was not my intention to come as obsessive. I was merely trying to understand how GLP work as my DD has still some
unintelligible long conversations and I know it is one of the things you have to be aware of . Like when she is pretending to be on the phone

Your daughter is TWO. Your expectations are insanely high for a two year old. All mums are first time mums at some point, but none I know of focus on GLP (i had to Google what that was), worrying about spontaneous language, learned phrases etc. All two year olds have unintelligible conversations. As I said she's two, she isn't an Oxbridge student. Over analysing everything to the degree you do is just not normal.

It seems very worrying that instead of engaging with your child in play, you seem to pick apart every behaviour such as her playing on a phone as a sign that there's something wrong with your child. Post after post and thread after thread about non existent problems, constantly seeking reassurance is damaging to yourself and your child. I'd understand if there were genuine concerns but there's none of that with your child and isn't in any of the other threads you've posted.

I really hope you get some help for your anxiety for both you and your child's sake.

wickedx · 09/02/2025 12:36

Think your worrying too much when my son just turned 2 he had no speech couldn't understand him atall but now he's 2yrs n 7th months he's fully communicating with us he sings multiple songs can count to 30 with help just give her time and time really does make the difference they change so fast! Xx

Everyone's child is different and develop at there own speed

IVFmumoftwo · 09/02/2025 12:10

Glamiss · 09/02/2025 11:53

@IVFmumoftwo I hear you. I can't find the right words to say, everything just sounds like a platitude. I hope your son has a brilliant birthday xx

@Glamiss Thank you. I am sure he will especially if there is cake involved. 🍰

Glamiss · 09/02/2025 11:53

@IVFmumoftwo I hear you. I can't find the right words to say, everything just sounds like a platitude. I hope your son has a brilliant birthday xx

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