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Wine every night

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leopardprintanduggs · 07/02/2025 16:16

I'm currently on maternity leave and have got myself into a routine of a glass or two of wine a night. I know this isn't ideal health wise but I feel like I need something to 'look forward to' in the evening and separate the night from the day. Anyone else in the same boat? I'm not a big eater so this is my treat. I've not bought a bottle of wine today as a concerted effort to have a night off and already feeling like there's nothing much to look forward tonight!

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leopardprintanduggs · 08/02/2025 14:17

@StormingNorman my husband works from home and is there with my baby while I cook dinner and have a glass of wine. On evenings he's away, I don't drink.

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StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 14:15

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 13:57

The OP is not in sole charge of her baby in the evening. Her husband is there.

Your assumption doesn’t change my facts. OP hasn’t said her DH is home when she starts drinking.

BigBlueEyes678 · 08/02/2025 14:11

@Superscientist thanks, I have identified dairy free treats and I have perfected dairy free baking by now but it doesn't change the fact that I can't reach for ANY of my favourite cakes and I can't have most takeaways. So there are very few easy treats for me. A glass of wine is all I have left. Thank god for that.

dancingwhilstfacingthemusic · 08/02/2025 14:06

Pretty much teetotal here after developing hormone driven breast cancer in my 50s. Although I’m in the right bmi, don’t smoke, eat veggie, any alcohol will boost the oestrogen in my system that fed my cancer. This cancer has a chance of returning and any alcohol can help it.

We are not a family that has ever had cancer. It was a total shock to me.

Diplodocy · 08/02/2025 14:01

leopardprintanduggs · 08/02/2025 13:43

Also, I think my title was hyperbole - I generally don't drink Monday and Tuesday (usually don't fancy it) so I am already having two days off. The feeling of drinking too much is when I compare myself to 3/4 years ago, I would only drink when going out partying and binge drinking on Saturday nights. For some reason, I consider that more 'normal' and wasn't concerned them, but little and often seems worse. In Europe though, this is considered a healthy relationship with alcohol. A reflection of the unhealthy English attitude to alcohol?

its not true that in the eu it would be considered a” healthy relationship with alcohol”…the definition of low risk drinking is not hugely different across many eu countries, in France for eg. It’s “Not more than 10 standard drinks per week, never more than 2 standard drinks per day, and at least one alcohol-free day per week” ..land a standard drink is only 100ml of wine . Tell me who in the uk only serves home measures of only 100ml wine? ( Source: https://knowledge4policy.ec.europa.eu/health-promotion-knowledge-gateway/national-low-risk-drinking-recommendations-drinking-guidelines_en) . Statistics also show that the French drink less overall than the British. If you are having breaks of a couple of days then I wouldn’t be even posting a response if it weren’t for the fact that you are still EBF a baby who quite obviously has digestive sensitivities…that doesn’t make sense to me.

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 13:57

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 13:53

The perspective is about the carers compromised caring capacity. Alcohol affects the carers ability to respond to potentially dangerous situations in a way a child eat a donut doesn’t.

The OP is not in sole charge of her baby in the evening. Her husband is there.

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 13:53

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 13:11

Hardly!

I let my dc watch telly and eat the odd donut for breakfast on holiday - neither of which would be acceptable in a nursery. What an odd perspective!

The perspective is about the carers compromised caring capacity. Alcohol affects the carers ability to respond to potentially dangerous situations in a way a child eat a donut doesn’t.

leopardprintanduggs · 08/02/2025 13:43

Also, I think my title was hyperbole - I generally don't drink Monday and Tuesday (usually don't fancy it) so I am already having two days off. The feeling of drinking too much is when I compare myself to 3/4 years ago, I would only drink when going out partying and binge drinking on Saturday nights. For some reason, I consider that more 'normal' and wasn't concerned them, but little and often seems worse. In Europe though, this is considered a healthy relationship with alcohol. A reflection of the unhealthy English attitude to alcohol?

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leopardprintanduggs · 08/02/2025 13:39

Lots of really useful contributions, too many to respond to individually. Some very helpful and some which have made me think and reflect, so thank you.

Of course some, @tearsandtiaras, spectacularly melodramatic. A glass of wine (sometimes two) over 4 hours in the evening, while my sober husband and I watch tv in the evening, is a 'safeguarding issue' - I can't take anything else you say seriously based off that. You'd think we were both taking shots of vodka and smoking inside next to the baby - but a glass of wine 😂 good grief. In your perfect utopia, I'm sure all parents, especially mothers, would be handmaid tale-esque beings sacrificing every ounce of themselves to their offspring. The real world is more nuanced than that.

Incidentally, the judgement that seeps from you as a social worker is disgusting and you should think about how that comes across in real life to your service users.

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Waffle19 · 08/02/2025 13:38

I would say I drank more frequently on maternity leave (enjoying it after nine months off, no distinguishing between week and weekend) but I would say that I always had a couple of nights off a week at least which made it easier to go back to only drinking at the weekends when I returned to work. I would just consider 1) how much you’re actually drinking over a week and 2) how hard it will be to break the daily habit when you’re back at work

DungareesTrombonesDinos · 08/02/2025 13:16

I would have a glass or two every night until one afternoon about 3 years ago when I realised we didn't have any wine in and I felt sheer panic. At that point I thought enough. I had about 2 weeks feeling awful, miserable, heart racing and since then I've not touched wine.

It had way too much control over me, plus if I had more than a couple of glasses it made me sick as a dog.

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 13:16

Jilhap

Where is the mention of babys dad being there? How do we know he isn't drinking too?

Baby being asleep or awake is no difference
On being under the influence whilst in care
Of a vulnerable baby.

Diplodocy · 08/02/2025 13:14

@JimHalpertsWife from the op “I'm currently EBF so am attached to baby at all times”

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 13:12

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 12:38

Jim of course it is , half a bottle of wine ( 2 glasses) is classed as Moderate drinking and impairs the body senses and cognitive function which when looking at a small baby's needs and vulnerabilities, the OP's quality of care will be affected. Sleep will be affected and the culmerative effect of doing this every day will have an impact on the body/ brain/ thus care and provided.

She may not be intoxicated but her judgement and senses will be impacted. The fact she is prioritising this every day and putting this need above providing good care to her baby is a safeguarding issue.

Have you considered the fact that baby is (1) in bed asleep and (2) the baby's dad is there too?

It is not a safeguarding issue.

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 13:11

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 12:33

Would you be happy for nursery staff to look after your baby after two glasses of wine? That’s the test.

Hardly!

I let my dc watch telly and eat the odd donut for breakfast on holiday - neither of which would be acceptable in a nursery. What an odd perspective!

VoodooRajin · 08/02/2025 13:04

Alcohol really is devil's milk on mumsnet

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 12:51

Comedycook

Alcohol is a depressant drug which means it slows down the messages between your
Body and your brain. There are laws around operating machinery/ Driving and alcohol consumption because of the risks.

It really cannot be compared to ironing.

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 12:44

Comedycook · 08/02/2025 12:41

I wouldn't be happy if nursery staff were doing their ironing or cooking a meal whilst looking after my baby...but I did those things whilst looking after my dc. So I'm not sure that comparison works

It’s a different scenario to getting on with other jobs because it directly speaks to competence, alertness, ability to reach quickly. Alcohol compromises our mental state in a way ironing doesn’t.

Comedycook · 08/02/2025 12:41

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 12:33

Would you be happy for nursery staff to look after your baby after two glasses of wine? That’s the test.

I wouldn't be happy if nursery staff were doing their ironing or cooking a meal whilst looking after my baby...but I did those things whilst looking after my dc. So I'm not sure that comparison works

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 12:38

Jim of course it is , half a bottle of wine ( 2 glasses) is classed as Moderate drinking and impairs the body senses and cognitive function which when looking at a small baby's needs and vulnerabilities, the OP's quality of care will be affected. Sleep will be affected and the culmerative effect of doing this every day will have an impact on the body/ brain/ thus care and provided.

She may not be intoxicated but her judgement and senses will be impacted. The fact she is prioritising this every day and putting this need above providing good care to her baby is a safeguarding issue.

Comedycook · 08/02/2025 12:37

I'm not outraged at the idea of a mum having a glass or two of wine once their baby is in bed but I think every night is way too much.

Other treat things...

Make a mocktail in a nice glass with ice.
Alcohol free wine or a glass of nosecco.
Hot chocolate or nice herbal tea
Mini bar of chocolate
Little bowls of nuts & olives to snack on
Book or magazine
Paint your nails
Adult colouring book
Crafts
Face mask

StormingNorman · 08/02/2025 12:33

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 12:27

Of course it isn't.

Would you be happy for nursery staff to look after your baby after two glasses of wine? That’s the test.

Gwenhwyfar · 08/02/2025 12:32

Irvinesv · 07/02/2025 16:51

I got into this habit so decided to stop drinking for a month and it changed my habits a lot. I also found that it helps to replace that thing to look forward to though so something good on tv, a call to a friend, a nice dinner or pudding.

I'm doing an extended dry January, but my evenings are so boring and my weekends nothing to look forward to. I can't imagine things not going back exactly the same once this is over because I have nothing to replace it with.

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 12:27

leopardprintanduggs · 07/02/2025 17:33

Alcohol is hugely diluted in breast milk so a glass or two of wine is negligible - as long as sober enough to look after baby, sober enough to feed is the guidance now. The actual danger is bed sharing after drinking which I don't do

This is not true.
Im a child protection social worker. Please stop minimising what you are doing

JimHalpertsWife · 08/02/2025 12:27

tearsandtiaras · 08/02/2025 12:23

Also are you in charge of a baby after 2 glass of wine? Thats half a bottle. Thats a safeguarding issue

Of course it isn't.

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