To wonder what would happen if LL were ever released?

I think this will review not only the nhs but the police, CPS ( unless Mr Starmer was in charge at the time) & the justice system. I don’t think that was Initial plan about money, think she was concerned with care & went to her managers. The doctors were pissed off then come up with this story to shut her up. There were investigations, no evidence found of any harm, the doctors were made to apologise they did, but then went to the police directly & the police went on the word of the doctors. Ask a question why were the doctors not on the list who was on duty when those babies died what makes them exempt?
anyone can sit though a trial but if the information your given is untrue how do you know?

Even if released, the bereaved families are not going to feel comforted by ‘society accepting the verdict’ - just that LL was one of the many involved in the catastrophic failures of care and someone who took an abnormal interest in them. They may never see justice being done for their children.

Even if this new review leads to a retrial and LL is released, the personal details (diary, repeated searches of the bereaved families) are still unsettling enough for the families and others.
these families are now going to have to relive all their trauma yet again, and I very much doubt that as many resources would be ploughed in to professional support for them as victims as giving LL a new identify.

A statue though. She’s not Princess Diana for crying out loud 😂

I've seen all the personal things posters have said to people who think she's guilty so I'm not offended in the least. Yeah you all hope we never serve on a jury or work in the NHS blah blah. Gullible is tame in comparison and we're talking about the defence of a baby killer here. Hopefully you never run into one of the parents of the babies she murdered or disabled for life.

I think it’s the opposite actually. I think the people who are so determined that she’s guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt are the ones that are trying to shut out a terrible possibility. It is far easier to accept that one bad person did terrible things (and has now been caught so we can all relax!) than it is to contemplate that a health system that you trust could be unsafe. You want to believe in the systems - the justice system, the NHS - but those systems are comprised of people and people are flawed.

If she’s innocent, it’s not insulting anyone if she gets her life back. Ffs

She's a woman so she must be innocent by default 🙄I'm sure just as many posters would be defending a man who was accused of such heinous crimes, and scribbling insane ramblings about how he did it all on purpose because he was so inadequate, not.

It’s not up to me to explain it, is it? But I still don’t believe that this will be considered proof of her innocence in a court of law. If it gets that far.

Well I think I am probably more qualified than you to listen to clinical information, but if you regard the as gullible, crack on. Let’s hope no one in your family works for the nhs.

Similar things were said about many high-profile miscarriages of justice - the Birmingham Six, the Guildford Four, Sally Clark, the Bridgewater Four and so on. We know that there is at least one miscarriage of justice every week in the UK. The true figure is probably much higher. Those who work in the criminal justice system believe that many juries apply a much lower standard than "beyond reasonable doubt", despite the fact that is supposed to be the standard applied.

I am absolutely not saying the NHS is innocent in this and they have blood on their hands in allowing her to continue as long as she did but that’s why they are now carrying out the Thirwall enquiry.

I think you’re possibly projecting and your own experience is clouding things and you’re convinced of her innocence- that’s your opinion. I don’t agree.

What you have to realise some of us have worked & been bullied by the nhs we know what they are capable of. The most used method is to make you have a breakdown & end up under a psychiatrist. I worried when they kept rearresting her it made me worried they were looking for evidence rather than finding it.
this could be anyone’s daughter working in the nhs, she thought she was doing the right thing by taking a grievance out look how that worked out. Those doctors on that panel did not mince their words in how the poor care was.

The current law is that she will be entitled to compensation if it is proven beyond reasonable doubt that she is not guilty. Whether the NHS or anyone else is convicted of anything is irrelevant.

The medical records are evidence in the case. They therefore had to be disclosed to Letby's defence by law. Her defence can share them with potential expert witnesses. They do not need permission from the parent or next of kin for any of this.

Who gave them permission to access them? Nobody is allowed to access NHS notes without the permission of the patient or their next of kin.

Course they saw detailed medical notes, did you watch the press conference? or are you doing this to get attention.

Maybe not. But do any of us know how we’d react while being interviewed on suspicion of murder?
Seeming calm and arrogant to an onlooker doesn’t make you a serial killer.

Think LL & her legal team were gave access to all court info, on the proviso that they would reveal the outcome publicly even if unfavourable against Lucy.

I’m so glad that’s you’re so certain @Worldinyourhands , that makes me feel so much better about my own mind not being made up