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AIBU to not pay for them?

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Trinity890 · 06/02/2025 14:26

It's my granddaughters birthday coming up and I offered to take GD, DD & her DH for a meal to celebrate.

My daughters husband has older DC who I rarely see, they were not due to be with them on this day (Saturday) but now are due to a change in their mum's plans.

I have no problem at all with them coming along, obviously. But AIBU to say whilst I'm happy to pay for DD, DH & DGD as originally planned, they will need to cover DHs older kids?

I'm not living in poverty but neither am I rich and I have next to no relationship with the older ones.

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Snowmanscarf · 06/02/2025 16:19

PaigeMac · 06/02/2025 14:48

Going against the grain but I think DD and SIL have got a bit of a cheek bringing extra guests without asking you, at the very least they should have said “Of course we’ll cover the extra cost”

Thus. Dh should pay.

BruFord · 06/02/2025 16:17

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 16:06

I think you've been put in a crappy position OP, I don't think it is right for your son-in-law just to extend the invite without offering to pay. People have budgets, they often need to stick to them, I think it is fine to include the half siblings, indeed I think it is probably better to do the celebration on a day they can come, rather than can't; but it is poor form to just assume the host can absorb the extra cost.

Their Dad should have come to you and said my DC are now home and will be coming so I'd like to split the bill.

@ForRealCat I agree, if my plans changed and my children needed to come to a dinner, I would never expect the host to pay for two extra. I'd explain the changed situation and say that I'll pay for their meals.

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 16:16

Moveoverdarlin · 06/02/2025 16:11

I think it would be incredibly mean and stingy not to pay for the step grandchildren. Providing they don’t take the piss and order bottles of Moët, what are we talking another £25? Do you really want to put your DD and DSIL noses out of joint for the sake of £25?

A main meal in my local pub starts at £19 now. If they are eating from the adult menu and have two courses this could easily be an extra £60 on the bill? I don't think it is stingy to be unhappy about having an unexpected expense of this level sprung on you.

The half siblings should be invited, but the dad should have instantly offered to pay. It is rude to spend someone else's money for them, without checking what they are comfortable with

Madamecholetsbonnet · 06/02/2025 16:15

Rickrolypoly · 06/02/2025 14:28

pay for them or reschedule for when they are not there.

Totally agree with this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/02/2025 16:12

OP not been back? Shocker.

Moveoverdarlin · 06/02/2025 16:11

I think it would be incredibly mean and stingy not to pay for the step grandchildren. Providing they don’t take the piss and order bottles of Moët, what are we talking another £25? Do you really want to put your DD and DSIL noses out of joint for the sake of £25?

miraxxx · 06/02/2025 16:08

Cancel the meal and just buy your GD a present OP. Problem solved.

Jeschara · 06/02/2025 16:07

CoastalCalm · 06/02/2025 15:53

How would you feel if you heard his parents had excluded your grandchildren from meal costs ? For the sake of £50 I’d be happy to keep everyone happy

Why should she pay a extra 50 or 60 quid? I cannot believe this, it was stated upthread the OP should skimp on something else, what for fucks sake food for herself, not keeping warm? OP may have saved up for this treat.
It has nothing to do with the fact she is the step gran it's to do with changed arrangemts and affordability. It's easy for people with money to virtue signal to say Oh I will pay.
If it was just a gathering round her house of course she would invite them but with the restaurant it is about cost.

ForRealCat · 06/02/2025 16:06

I think you've been put in a crappy position OP, I don't think it is right for your son-in-law just to extend the invite without offering to pay. People have budgets, they often need to stick to them, I think it is fine to include the half siblings, indeed I think it is probably better to do the celebration on a day they can come, rather than can't; but it is poor form to just assume the host can absorb the extra cost.

Their Dad should have come to you and said my DC are now home and will be coming so I'd like to split the bill.

Hollietree · 06/02/2025 16:05

I think it depends where you are going and the cost.

Is it a place that has a set kids menu for £8-10 and the kids are young enough to order from it? Then I would just pay the extra, it’s not much.

But if they are teens and likely to cost more like £20+ per head then I think I’d have a quiet word with my daughter - explain that whilst you would love to spent time with the step children, it’s pushed the price of the meal above your budget. I would suggest they all come to your house for a takeaway instead. But hopefully they will offer at this point to pay for the two kids at the restaurant, without you having to awkwardly suggest this.

user7421908523 · 06/02/2025 16:05

Unless your going to drip feed that there’s 4 or 5 step children, i think I’d suck it up and pay, assuming there’s just one or two extra!

nodramaplz · 06/02/2025 16:05

Either rearrange, or give a lump sum to DD to pay their bit.
For instance if you anticipated the bill being £50 for their part before the other children, then give DD that.

There are polite ways around it.

MissDoubleU · 06/02/2025 16:03

What better chance to get to know them! Include them, build a relationship. They parents here haven’t tried to trick you into paying for two extra meals. You had an arrangement for a family meal and their other children are now available to attend, through no fault of theirs or their parents. You would definitely be unreasonable to “other” them by rescheduling or saying you wont cover the cost of their meal specifically.

You can feel how you want about it. Buy less for future birthdays to even the deficit. Say you’re delighted, but might need to go halves as you only budgeted for 4 meals. However you want. Just don’t let the children feel weird about it.

TomatoSandwiches · 06/02/2025 16:03

It is rude to invite extra people without checking with the one paying or mentioning you will be covering the costs of those you've invited along.
But these are children ( unless theure adults ) I would cover the costs of all the children and let my daughter and her husband cover their meals, I think that's more than fair and inclusive especially if op has a limited budget.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 06/02/2025 15:58

I'd just say, "I won't be able to pay for everyone, sorry, so can we go halves?"

BMW6 · 06/02/2025 15:58

I'd just tell them that you can't cover all 6 as you can't afford it and reschedule for another day.

InterIgnis · 06/02/2025 15:56

Honestly OP I would just clarify with your daughter. It may very well be that they don’t expect you to pay for the extra two anyway.

InterIgnis · 06/02/2025 15:55

aei22 · 06/02/2025 15:53

Well you and I can disagree and op can choose whatever advice she wants to follow.

she said she can afford 6 anyway.
and I would treat the family of 5 as a unit, rather than saying those two aren’t my grandchildren so I won’t pay for them.

OP’s choice though

So? Being able to afford six, at a stretch, doesn’t oblige her to.

I’m not sure what your preferred family dynamic has to do with OP, or indeed anyone that isn’t your family. Not all families operate in the same way, or even want or have to.

WhereYouLeftIt · 06/02/2025 15:54

I'm trying to think myself into OP's son-in-law's head.

Myself, wife and daughter have been invited out by my wife's mother to celebrate my daughter/her granddaughter's birthday. She is expecting it to be a meal for four, and she's kindly paying. Now my two older children, unrelated to her, will be with us that day. Should I expect her to spend 50% more than she was expecting to? Or should I offer to pay for my eldest's meals?

I would be judging him if this were not going through his mind. I'd also be judging OP's daughter if it were not going through her mind too!

There was an excellent suggestion made earlier that OP pay for the children's meals and her daughter and son-in-law pay for their own meals. I think that's the way I would go.

aei22 · 06/02/2025 15:53

InterIgnis · 06/02/2025 15:50

No, OP ‘should’ decide for herself what she wants to do regarding her own money. She budgeted for four, not six. It would be incredibly rude and presumptuous to expect her to pay.

His kids are lesser to her. Considering they’re not her grandchildren, and he has seemingly never expected her to consider them her grandchildren, it’s a leap to claim that he even has a problem with this.

Well you and I can disagree and op can choose whatever advice she wants to follow.

she said she can afford 6 anyway.
and I would treat the family of 5 as a unit, rather than saying those two aren’t my grandchildren so I won’t pay for them.

OP’s choice though

CoastalCalm · 06/02/2025 15:53

How would you feel if you heard his parents had excluded your grandchildren from meal costs ? For the sake of £50 I’d be happy to keep everyone happy

Igavebirthtoabanana · 06/02/2025 15:52

mugglewump · 06/02/2025 15:45

It's a child's meal, FFS. It is not going to break the bank and it is not the poor kid's fault that he is going to be with one parent rather than the other. If you have offered to take the family out, you take the family out. If you feel really uncomfortable forking out an extra tenner for a kid's burger, postpone the evening out, but please don't make yourself look petty and churlish.

Depends on the age of these older children. My 13 yo eats an adult meal. This could easily mean £20-£25 extra as there’d be drinks on top too. For two older kids it could be £50-£60 extra on top.

InterIgnis · 06/02/2025 15:50

aei22 · 06/02/2025 15:47

I agree he should offer to pay for them, but op should then say, that’s kind of you but don’t worry I’ll pay.

its not being weaponised as a threat anywya. I’m trying to say that if you treat someone as lesser, or someone’s kids as lesser, you very well might tannish that someone’s view of you and their actions towards you in the future could reflect that.

so again, I caution op not to rearrange or say she won’t pay

No, OP ‘should’ decide for herself what she wants to do regarding her own money. She budgeted for four, not six. It would be incredibly rude and presumptuous to expect her to pay.

His kids are lesser to her. Considering they’re not her grandchildren, and he has seemingly never expected her to consider them her grandchildren, it’s a leap to claim that he even has a problem with this.

nightmarepickle2025 · 06/02/2025 15:50

Depends if you think the amount of money you will save is worth the aggravation, or if you just want to make a point.

BrownieBlondie01 · 06/02/2025 15:48

I would be so surprised if your daughter and SIL still expect you to pay the whole bill now.