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To think it’s unfair that some people get inheritance while others start with nothing?

821 replies

ThisCandidCritic · 06/02/2025 14:22

Isn’t inheritance just another way of keeping wealth in the hands of the privileged? AIBU to think we should heavily tax or abolish inheritances altogether?

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AzurePanda · 10/02/2025 09:00

@allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld not to mention that care home fee inflation has outstripped house price inflation in many parts of the country in recent years.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 10/02/2025 08:51

@ThisCandidCritic "the wealth about to be transfered came from house prices increasing 1145% since 1980 and equity prices increased by 7 x since 1984. " dont know where they have got those figures from!! my old house, which I bought in 1985 sold in 1995 only doubled in value about 10 years ago! my house which we live in now was purchased in 1995 and has not yet tripled in value over the past 30 years and we had to add a large amount of savings to enable us to buy it!!! we didnt go on holiday for years so we could save money and move up. nowadays people expect to move up as well as go on holiday every year!!

AzurePanda · 10/02/2025 08:10

@Blossomtoes you have to put together a deposit out of taxed income, pay a mortgage out of taxed income, pay your utilities, insurance, council tax, maintenance, repairs and renovations etc out of taxed income. Forgo expensive holidays, jewellery and cars and so on because you have a family home to pay for.

It is the case that house price inflation has been significant in every single industrialised country but it’s pretty much only the UK which clobbers people in return for taking long term economic decisions which are for the good of their family and leave them in a strong position to fund their own old age, including care requirements.

Sleepishues · 10/02/2025 00:51

Im glad also that my daughters
can inherit also and we aren’t living in the dark ages !

BIossomtoes · 09/02/2025 22:05

nearlylovemyusername · 09/02/2025 21:37

Why not??? Why the property which I paid for out of my after tax income should go to anyone else but my DC???

Do you know that much admired here social justice heaven Scandi don't have IHT at all? apart from Denmark where it's only 15% but threshold is about £39k

Unless you bought it very recently most of its value is due to inflation - ie money which has never been earned or taxed.

nearlylovemyusername · 09/02/2025 21:37

BIossomtoes · 09/02/2025 21:05

Do kids really expect to inherit enough tax free to buy outright @nearlylovemyusername?

Why not??? Why the property which I paid for out of my after tax income should go to anyone else but my DC???

Do you know that much admired here social justice heaven Scandi don't have IHT at all? apart from Denmark where it's only 15% but threshold is about £39k

Crikeyalmighty · 09/02/2025 21:23

Personally I am very much of the view that the whole system with care and inheritance needs to be looked at- at the moment it means that those with houses worth a mint and especially in certain areas of the country can access far more choice of care over longer periods than someone who has worked very hard, bought their house , been frugal but just happens to live in a cheaper part of the country can - unless they have a condition that qualifies for CHC .

My own view is that it would be better post 40 if we all paid 2% into a ringfenced national care scheme - could be called on then and pay for care homes if needed or care at home requirements. Like an insurance policy - or even make it a fixed amount rather than a percentage.

I think IHT should be 20% on anything over 200k. - up to any level.

BIossomtoes · 09/02/2025 21:05

Do kids really expect to inherit enough tax free to buy outright @nearlylovemyusername?

nearlylovemyusername · 09/02/2025 20:31

BIossomtoes · 09/02/2025 19:45

Blimey, how many kids have you got? There are some parts of the country where £100k nearly buys a house outright.

£500k won't buy you a decent 2 bed flat in London.

Barbadossunset · 09/02/2025 20:15

The Duke of Westminster springs to mind…

@Strumpetpumpet The Duke of Westminster has held on to his money and land but for every person like him there are plenty who have lost the family fortune from gambling, bad financial management, extravagance or whatever.
I suggest you read a book called Splendour & Squalor by Marcus Scrivens which documents several such people.
I think you’d enjoy it.

Strumpetpumpet · 09/02/2025 19:56

You’re absolutely correct, it just perpetuates inequality. It’s totally laughable that people claim the only reason they have money to leave their descendants is due to their own hard work. The Duke of Westminster springs to mind…

BIossomtoes · 09/02/2025 19:45

LeggusMiracticus · 09/02/2025 17:50

It wouldn't get them even an affordable mortgage on a house each, these days, sadly.
With their salaries being as they are (working full time) and house prices what they are, then they still wouldn't be able to buy a house with their split.
However, I was replying to the original question of basically no-one inheriting anything at all (so all starting with nothing). That would then give no incentive for people to save, live within their means etc.

Blimey, how many kids have you got? There are some parts of the country where £100k nearly buys a house outright.

LeggusMiracticus · 09/02/2025 17:50

BIossomtoes · 08/02/2025 12:13

Of course it’s not wrong but (assuming you’re single) is a tax free windfall of £500k not enough security for them?

It wouldn't get them even an affordable mortgage on a house each, these days, sadly.
With their salaries being as they are (working full time) and house prices what they are, then they still wouldn't be able to buy a house with their split.
However, I was replying to the original question of basically no-one inheriting anything at all (so all starting with nothing). That would then give no incentive for people to save, live within their means etc.

Doloresparton · 08/02/2025 20:02

I’ve inherited healthy genes from my dp’s.
I can’t think of anything better to inherit.

AzurePanda · 08/02/2025 19:54

I would actually be happy with anything up to 20%, 40% is simply too high.

Chorro · 08/02/2025 19:28

blueshoes · 07/02/2025 21:46

Personally a 40% inheritance tax is simply too high.

Wealthy people will do everything to give away their money and assets whilst alive, set up trusts, spend it in retirement or move abroad to avoid paying almost half to Rachel. This will have the adverse consequences of people not being incentivised to work hard a build up a pension or spending too much in retirement and ending up with not enough assets so that the cost of care falls onto the state, or mobile high earners simply moving abroad with the government losing their tax dollars.

If inheritance tax were set at 10% with a lower nil rate band, I suspect the inheritance tax take would be much higher because the incentive to avoid is less. 10% seems a fair amount and probably not big enough a chunk to bother taking expensive, risky and onerous IHT avoidance measures.

I agree with that. There should be no allowances and a standard 10%/15% tax on everyone for me. Maybe that doesn’t raise enough though.

Chorro · 08/02/2025 19:25

HebeHerbivore · 06/02/2025 14:28

My parents were fairly poor, not privileged at all and worked bloody hard to own their own home and paid taxes all their lives, damn right they passed it onto us when they died. We will do the same to our children when the time comes.

If you don’t need care. Doesn’t always work out. My mums care home fees came to £400,000 plus and she died with the minimum allowed. It’s a bit of a lottery.

BIossomtoes · 08/02/2025 19:23

Xenia · 08/02/2025 18:03

It is a very foolish tax and you don't pay it if you give your money away and live 7 years which puts people in a quandry as most of us don't know when we will die (probably at about 82 but you never do know).

You don’t pay it at all because you’re dead. Why’s it a quandary? Just give away everything you can and downsize to a house worth less than £2 million. Job done.

Xenia · 08/02/2025 18:03

It is a very foolish tax and you don't pay it if you give your money away and live 7 years which puts people in a quandry as most of us don't know when we will die (probably at about 82 but you never do know).

Kuretake · 08/02/2025 16:17

Id have thought the best way would be, like income tax, some bands. So a nil rate, then stepping up.

blueshoes · 08/02/2025 16:12

Exhausteddog · 08/02/2025 15:19

Would it be fairer, if a much smaller % was taken above a much lower threshold?

Definitely. It is fairer and more palatable.

It will gives less of an incentive to take IHT avoidance measures which has perverse distorting effects on people's incentive to work hard and save for a retirement which in turn takes the burden of the state. If the intention of IHT is to encourage a fairer distribution of assets, all it does is make the overall pie smaller for everyone as a result of IHT avoidance.

Like it or not, one of the biggest drivers of wealth accumulation through risk taking and hard work is the ability to keep one's hard earned wealth (subject to paying tax) and then the ability to pass it onto dcs, relatives and other causes.

I know I work harder and for longer because my dd has a disability and I am building her a financial cushion. If the state is going to take 40%, I might as well have the state look after her in terms of benefits. Everyone loses.

BIossomtoes · 08/02/2025 15:42

Exhausteddog · 08/02/2025 15:19

Would it be fairer, if a much smaller % was taken above a much lower threshold?

Probably. It would certainly be harder to avoid.

Exhausteddog · 08/02/2025 15:19

Would it be fairer, if a much smaller % was taken above a much lower threshold?

blueshoes · 08/02/2025 14:45

AzurePanda · 08/02/2025 07:47

I agree with you @blueshoes, I really dislike the way IHT encourages people to make decisions in a way that is not in the economic interests of society.

Thank you @AzurePanda well and succinctly put

Cappuccinowithonesugarplease · 08/02/2025 14:05

Life isn't fair!
I'm an only child and my uncle didn't have children but guess what, I'd rather have sibling to share with!