To think children shouldn't be swearing in primary school

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It's ingrained rude and aggressive language imbedded in small children as part of their day to day lexicon

@Notmycircusnotmyotter I know you’re trying to sound learned, but imbedded is not a word.

if you’d have however said ‘fucking imbedded’ it would have sounded cooler, although still wrong

Because their parents speak to them like it so it's where they learn to talk like that

It's quite a scary state of affairs to see posters saying they don't care about primary aged children swearing. This isn't a toddler mimicking a parent who accidentally says "shit" after stubbing their toe. It's ingrained rude and aggressive language imbedded in small children as part of their day to day lexicon. How is that ever ok?

Well brought-up children know not to swear in front of adults.

As this is the case, are you not arguing the same point? Children in private schools may have heard the words but they have also picked up very quickly when it is and is not appropriate to use them. For any child who has picked up on the context of when they should not swear (not just those in private schools), it continues into adulthood so swear words are often not their daily vocabulary

I've worked in everything from an inner-city comp to a top girls' private girls' school in a leafy market town and also in primary schools. Posh kids from lovely, wealthy backgrounds swear too, albeit in plummier tones. If people think they are paying to avoid 'kids who are saying things like this', they are kidding themselves! Well brought-up children know not to swear in front of adults.

@AllProperTeaIsTheft Because I knew the parents of the dc. It’s just who they were. You are perfectly free to ignore me but I think many parents were paying too ££ to avoid dc who are saying things like this. The parents in the state school were not as well off, overall, but DDs friends just didn’t have swearing parents. I guess we have to agree to differ?

Too f*&ing right it is🤣

@AllProperTeaIsTheft don’t worry @TizerorFizz likes to make sweeping personal judgements dressed up as a fact. I’m ignoring it now

How do you know most kids at your dc's school wouldn't like it? Many parents would be astonished at what their own dc do and say at school, never mind what their classmates do and say!

My dc did not hear us swear. It’s not something they would hsve expected at school and most dc there would not have liked it and a teacher would have been informed. Dc all swearing together, I guess they don’t care but actually pleasant dc do.

The vast majority of swearing by children in school will take place out of earshot of teachers. To believe that means it doesn't happen, or that schools being strict about swearing when it is heard by teachers stops children from swearing in school, is hilariously naïve. As is the belief that children from 'naice' families don't swear. Total and utter nonsense!

@BoredZelda ditto. Never heard my daughter swear even though I do like a trooper. I wouldn’t be that bothered if she did and she knows not swear at inappropriate times like you’ve said.

There are some posters on this thread desperate to assert that swearing is a ‘lower class thicko’ thing to do. It’s not.

Children are a reflection of their home life.

I swear quite a bit at home. My15 year old doesn't. Even her friends tease her about it. Our rule has always been never use them in front of adults outside the house, other than that I'm fine with it.

At DT’s school you got a demerit house point for swearing or inappropriate language.

I don't swear and I don't work with anyone who swears. I think the worst I have heard is an occasional damn.

Any child swearing would be challenged by staff and other students. That is not to say some do not swear at home.

We have some children who do not swear in school but revert to effing and blinding when their parent collects them.

It might be every day language but other dc and adults don’t have to put up with it. Education is wider than just taking exams. It’s being aware of others too.

Sadly yes this is correct

So its ok amongst their peers? So for girls from non swearing families, they will hear misogynistic swear words for the first time in the school playground, why is that ok?

My son got a fixed term exclusion for saying the f word once when he was in primary school.

it isn’t the roof of all evil but swearing isn’t acceptable in our home, DT’s school or my workplace.

Children can now hear swearing on tv and any other media outlet if they are not checked. They don’t filter when to use it and it becomes standard language. Once it becomes part of language, it’s used

That’s just the way language evolves. You do realise many words that used to be swear words are now considered not so. And of course, normal language changes meaning too - take the word gay. And new words are invented - like Rizz or Skibidi or Ohio popular amongst Gen A right now. There are no inherent meanings or connotations to words - they flex as humans change them.

There was a street in London called ‘grope-cunt lane’ back in the day. You’d have passed out with the horrors @TizerorFizz

Why is swearing about the person listening. Surely though, the person speaking is paramount. Is it just me me me as usual?

Hearing an odd swear word isn’t what is being talked about. Undoubtedly dc did hear this occasionally although I cannot recall this myself. I was not brought up in that world. Neither my friends. There were more local ways to express annoyance. Children can now hear swearing on tv and any other media outlet if they are not checked. They don’t filter when to use it and it becomes standard language. Once it becomes part of language, it’s used.

I agree with you re swearing at school, but anyone thinking that late primary age children in the good old days had never heard swear words or knew what they meant is just deluded. Bad language has always been with us and always will be.

As it happens I live in a very deprived town and frequently see parents swearing at their children with every other word. And that is abusive. Swearing in general with every other word is not to be encouraged. However, I do get very weary of people who see swearing as the root of all evil. There's a place for a well placed swear word to let off steam.