To not get up with husbands 5am alarm?

buy a comfy pull out sofa. Do something so you can sleep. Lay a mattress on the living room floor and lean it up against the wall dureing the day out of the way. Go sleep in a closet. make a cozy closet nook. If I was getting woke up like that and there was nowhere to go Id be down in the cellar in a tent and sleeping cot. I Neeeeeeeeed my sleep undisturbed or Im miserable!! I put my husband out on the porch in a tent one summer LOL it was great . The kids joined him haha and I had the house to myself. Heavenly.

My husband has a 4am alarm, he hits snooze twice and gets up at 4:20. We sleep in separate rooms from Sunday night to Thursday night and sleep in same room when he doesn't have work the next day. He moves around in his seep and gets up to pee at night or just gets up early cause its use to that so we have seperate beds in the shared bedroom. Im not a morning person so he never bothers me in my bed but I will go in his if I feel like it. I sleep great. It took soe years to finally just sleep apart and have seperate beds too but the lack of sleep and disturbed sleep was making me soo resentful and ill. Now its great we both sleep and are happier.

Maybe it's time to invest in something comfortable for another room. Take it in turns.

I would sleep separately.

My husband has decided to wake up at around 5.30am. I'm not up till 7am.

He prepares all his bits, clothes etc the night before and takes them downstairs.
He has a smart watch he uses as an alarm.
All he does in the morning is quietly get up and leave the room.
He used to get dressed in the room but that woke me up.
Would him getting up quietly and leaving without making a sound, still wake you?

I feel your pain, I’m live through the same and don’t have any spare rooms so just have to deal with it, I’ve had points where I’ve thought of separating over it but largely I just cope with it. I seem to struggle more in the winter months, through the summer I seem to naturally have more energy and cope on less sleep.

Make him get a vibrating watch alarm

I’m similar age, with a young adult child and a 4yr old. My husband gets up earlier than me for the gym and as he’s overweight I need to support this but it leaves me wiped tired. Some things that help me.

I play sleepy monkey playlist on Spotify every night in my room (youngest moved into his own room 2yrs ago but I kept using it). Our brains are programmed to like nursery rhythms at a pretty primitive level and because it’s a constant noise I find if I stir due to eldest going to the loo or neighbours car starting etc my head thinks it my head hears that familiar sound and I don’t wake as fully (and therefore fall back asleep quicker and more easily)

My husband and I have separate quilts (a double each) on our king size bed. I used to feel him move in the bed lots and although I still do it’s far less because I think half the previous movements were the quilt being moved around.

Gel earplugs (like those used for swimming) are much more tolerable than regular ones as you mould the gel around the outer ear rather than inside the ear.

Hubby (he’s a wonderful man!) sleeps on our fairly small and uncomfortable sofa once a week (every Friday - looking forward to tonight!) so that I get one good night of sleep each week.

Try these and I wish you luck! The combination for me has been day to day life changing.

edited to add:

Also - go for the alarm on watch anyway! Yes sometimes the vibration wakes me but other days his arm is kinda outside edge/hanging off the bed and it doesn’t wake me at all. You won’t find perfect sleep in people like us but just a couple of days being better makes all the difference.

Or just a new mattress that doesn't transmit movement so much? We bought one some months ago and I can't feel him moving about at all now, unless he virtually bounces on the bed. We had a firmish foam mattress for a while and that was perfect, I couldn't feel a single movement - only got rid of it because I got so hot during menopause.

I’ve read through your post on the thread and I sympathise !
If that happens to me I feel really unwell .
Yesterday for instance I knew I needed to be up at a reasonable time to get things done before heading out ( needed to be somewhere an hours drive away at a specific time ) I woke at 5 and couldn’t drop off till after 6 and then had to be up at just after 7 ..felt awful .
I see you don’t have a spare bedroom or another suitable room to sleep in and earplugs are difficult ( me too , I find them difficult to wear )
So the only reasonable alternative is rescheduling your sleep hours , which will be difficult at first .
I see your family are still relatively young teens / pre teen so I hope they can respect the quiet from 9pm rule ?
As for night waking for a wee , I do that too but have started taking Jude supplement now and will see how I do with that .
i think I already feel like I have a calmer bladder and I still have a small camomile tea at about 9pm

Separate bedrooms are the only answer. We haven't slept together in over 10 years. We became so less irritable with each other, and our sex life improved hugely as a result.

Earplugs. My DH gets up at 4.30am and has done for years so I've become addicted to earplugs.

I am similar to you OP. Always have been an insomniac and it's horrible. I can wear wax ear plugs it took me a while and you have to warm them up in your hands but has been complete game changer. I also practice yoga nidra which basically is deep relaxation. If I can't sleep I do this instead and it's as good as sleep.
Also if you can when you're perimenopausal (which you might be?) that really helped my sleep.
DH gets up it's about 5:45. He leaves all of his clothes downstairs and is as quiet as he can be.
Good luck insomnia is a fucker.

That's one of the worst times to be woken, as you said you'll just fall into a deep sleep when your alarm goes off and you'll end up feeling sluggish all day.

How is your dh coping with the new alarm time?

It might be better to ease into this as a new routine, rather trying to fight it.

I wake at 5am naturally, as where I live things open and start early (kids have to be at school for 7.15am) so its just my body clock, I don't even have dc at school anymore but I still wake up then.

I go to bed early though. Some people scoff and say how on earth, but I go for bed around 9pm.

What I would do is get some Melatonin and take that before bed.
Or magnesium (glycinate, there are many types), this one is best for sleep.
Go to bed earlier. Do you really have to stay awake just because your teens are, or is this just habit.
Then get up at 5am with your dh and start your day then. You could do allsorts in that hour, do a slow workout or pilates session on Youtube, get the washing on, peel the potatoes, take the dog for a walk etc.
It's a habit you need to break though, so you have to be consistent. Any drastic change to a routine is going to make the body think wtf for a while though.

I think quite a lot of people find that going back to sleep after say a 5am wake, makes them feel worse than just getting up then and staying awake. If I do wake and then fall back to sleep for some reason, then I do tend to feel a bit more groggy in the day.

Why can’t you go to bed earlier? I’ve been going to bed earlier than my teens for years. They can entertain themselves at that age for a little longer. Going to sleep earlier is the only thing that’s going to help.

@40andtryingtoimprove i hear you . I feel 5am is still the middle of the night. .
I use to get up for early shift at 5am and I’d be shattered all day . Even going to bed early the night before didn’t help. .

I’d sleep in a separate room. That’s all you can do !?

Not a quick or cheap fix, so might not be viable, but i knew someone who was a light sleeper and woken often by her husband just existing in the bed next to her. They ended up getting 2 single beds pushed next to each other with a big duvet to make a double (super king?) bed. It stopped the movement traveling through the mattress and waking her.