Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

Extreme rhetoric = taking back Greenland, buying Canada, building hotels in gaza, etc etc etc .....and mumsnet is the problem?

Telling a load of probably predominately brits, to not have a differing opinion , and not to express it ....wow.

From my own perspective making stuff up about trump isn't necessary it's all out there.....unless fox edits out the bad bits. ;-)

Sorry but we live in Canada and will continue to protect ourselves against the felon acting as president south of our border. We’re now referring to the US as a Southern Canadian province! We’ll never become a US state! (And we’ll be booing the American national anthem at the 4Nations!)

Okay. I'll bite.

Enough with the orange insults

Enough with the exaggerations, like claiming he's going to build a golf course that covers half the world or some such ridiculousness.

Enough with the catastrophising.

The majority on this thread, and others like it, don't seem to realise their own extreme rhetoric has pushed an awful lot of Americans to vote for him.

Screaming, crying, shouting, throwing insults and making stuff up are not going to convince many to vote for those aligned with your viewpoint.

Russia is on its knees financially and militarily and yet trump is conceding to all putins demands. But then trump is a hard negotiator 😱.....it would be hysterically funny if it wasn't so serious.

Money IS power.....musk is a megalomaniac...money has bought him the American presidency, can't get much more power than that ! Trump is effectively musks puppet, all he had to do was show trump the money.Trump would roll onto his back and wiggle his legs in the air for money so that wasn't difficult. Musk wants to go to Mars doesn't want to spend his own money when he can get billions from US contracts to do it.

Americas current government threaten the media if they push back, oppose, or disagree with them. They will sue them and or shut them down. ( Associated Press, Jim Acosta, ) The richest man in the world runs a social media organisation that is biased to one viewpoint, and while spouting about free speech deletes accounts that have a different viewpoint. Then there is another billionaire run social media who was told to toe the line and remove fact checking or they would see the wrath of the government. They witter on about the first amendment (free speech) and yet this is anything but free. All this has happened in the last number of months. To me this is like beginning to look like living in North Korea or Nazi Germany.

America is not free.

@Seriously Try The Magnus Archives on utube, a lengthy series of individual but related unsettling tales.

Everything I have heard says USA thinks China is a bigger threat than Russia and they can't afford to plough money into Ukraine and Israel fighting the wars for them.
They need to concentrate on their own military and reserves esp re China

And put money into their own infrastructure and population.
The Ukrain war is in deadlock and the eu seem to have done absolutely nothing in ploughing funds into their own protection. It beggars belief really!
It's a huge massive block why hasn't it made it's own security a priority?
Whether Trump does or doesn't give them support shouldn't really be an issue it should be a bonus.
Putin thought he could take Ukraine in days, 3 years later the war is still going.
Why on earth would he want to tackle anywhere else when he can't take Ukraine.

No solution here is ideal but at least Ukraine would be safe and whoever does the peace keeping border means putin wouldn't ever attack again.
People in Ukraine could live again at the moment they don't know if the entirety of their country will be taken by putin. What then?

Bite Sized Audio also @seriouslynonono

I think America is trying to impress Putin. The Russians were very happy with Vance's speech criticising the Europeans for a lack of democracy.
The Pot calling the kettle black methinks.

There's a YouTube called Classic Ghost Stories. Actually there's a couple. Old detective Stories too. Trick is to avoid the AI ones these days. Check the comments first - some listener usually flags them up

I’d love to call him an out and out lying- whatever- but Some one will come along and go - no, those 3 words he used in the entire speech actually happened so … fake news! Liberals! Woke! Agenda blah blah blah

it’s not ‘freedom’ they’re after.

And ….. the NHS doesn’t ask you to confirm who you are at hospital or GP?

If you are not “in the NHS system” in UK, you get billed now and surprise, they want some ID. So, you need to revise your rhetoric

Apologies for thinking "the world" includes all countries, not the handful you deem worthy of attention.

As for the rest of your post, I think you must have me mixed up with another poster.

give it 6 months to a year and I'm sure that freedom will be completely stolen by Trump, Musk and MAGA criminals and billionaires.

Because we let Biden run first even though he was in competent and then put in Harris who was incompetent to having no choice. I am an American. I didn't vote for either.

Compared with great swathes of the world? What like Ethiopia and Guatemala? Are you really asking me to compare the richest country in the world to "great swathes". How about I just compare the richest country in the world to France and Germany.

Ffs. If you think it's ok to treat your citizens like pariahs, or what was it, "parasites, " your no doubt hero, Elon calls them, then I hope for your sake you don't get old or ill.

Me too

@TankflyBossW4lk that is also true of many/most countries. The social support system in the US may not look like much to those of us in other western countries but just compare it to that available across other swathes of the globe.

I'm not arguing that things in the US are great, I'm arguing that saying the US is one of the "least free" countries in the world is ridiculous.

Oh, it's not my idea of freedom. Freedom to work 3 jobs just to afford to eat and no leave to do anything else??

You need to have a lot of money to "be free" in the US. If you're poor your median life expectancy is frankly poor for a first world country. Detroit's life expectancy is 69 years! That is shocking. A country where people die of the complications of diabetes is bad enough but it happening in the richest country in the world is unforgivable.

If you're poor, you have a poorly paid job,limited healthcare, very limited leave, few maternity rights, no social security. I'd hate to live in a country like that.

What about Vance's Indian wife? Will she be deported like many other 'foreign' spouses?

I would not want to be in the US right now. So sad for all US citizens and immigrants.

Do you know a lot of wanna be immigrants by any chance? Or dreamers? Given the choice between the US and most of western Europe, I'd choose Europe. Also Canada, or Australia or New Zealand. Not entirely sure I'd choose Venezuela though, or El Salvador or Haiti, or large parts of West and Central Africa, or Sudan, or Iran or Russia or North Korea or Afghanistan etc etc

If lots of people are fighting to get into a place, that doesn't necessarily mean that place is great. It can just mean that the place they're running from is worse.