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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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username299 · 21/02/2025 18:15

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/02/2025 18:05

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac

Does anyone else feel as if we're living not just in the upside down, but the inside out?

I'm sure the usual fwits will be giggling about this on social media and denying it's a Nazi gesture.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 21/02/2025 18:05

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/21/steve-bannon-jordan-bardella-nazi-salute-cpac

Does anyone else feel as if we're living not just in the upside down, but the inside out?

Turkeyneck101 · 21/02/2025 13:47

Just watched a video which shows that musks economic drive has saved everyday Americans fighting to financially survive ... a whopping 13 cents per person...but .....trump is giving 4.5 trillion dollars tax cut to the super wealthy which is worth 13,000 dollars in tax to every American who pays tax.

Also watched James Carville educate Hannity on a few figures. It makes me sick watching musk the organ grinder with his monkey trump say he will stay to 'help' America so long as he is needed , except he didn't say he has been given a billion dollars in contracts for Tesla and Space x. Outta the kindness of his stone cold billion dollar heart.

user44456b · 21/02/2025 13:26

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 22:18

I think that this differs in scale. Few people lost their jobs as a direct consequence of Brexit, whereas DOGE has been massacring hundreds of thousands of employees in a matter of weeks. For farmers in the UK there was around four years notice that things would be changing (even if they didn't specifically know what would replace the CAP). Farmers in the US on the other hand have been growing food for USAID only for the agency buying it to be shut down, and completing environmental projects only to have the grants they were expecting upon completion cut.

Nor for that matter has the UK seen a mass round-up of immigrants (legal or illegal, ICE don't care as they've got quotas to fill). European nationals already in the UK were offered settled status (though that hasn't been reciprocated everywhere) so no one's father has been arrested in a raid like in the US.

The personality cult is weird too. We haven't seen anything like that.

Oh, I agree it's different in scale. But I think the thought process has to be similar. I mean, in the run up to Brexit, there was plenty of information readily available as to what the likely (negative) outcomes and effects were going to be and people chose to ignore them. I do think there is a segment in the US that actively likes some of the cruelty of Trump's policies, but outside of that group, I think a lot of people were able to engage in cognitive dissonance about the outcome.

The USAID thing, I think is a little off, though, as that's something that wasn't really foreseeable in the run up to the election. While Project 2025 did outline a plan for it and Marjorie Taylor Green bleated about it, most voters were either unaware of that, believed Trump when he said he had nothing to do with P25, or wouldn't have cared anyway (a lot of Americans are really not switched on to the importance of foreign aid).

Caveat: my sister is a doctor who has been working on a USAID project for the past 10 years and even they were surprised by what's happened, both the speed and the scale. It's devastating.

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 08:30

That’s perfection. 💕

We will never be Americans.

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 08:11

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 05:49

Hockey has numerous brawls each game.

The booing though is new for Canada. We’re not usually so assertive.

‘O Canada’ had the lyrics changed at the start of the 4Nations final from “in all of us command” to “that only us command” in response to Trump’s ascertaining that Canada will become the 51st US state!

Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world
Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 05:49

Hockey has numerous brawls each game.

The booing though is new for Canada. We’re not usually so assertive.

Parker231 · 21/02/2025 04:47

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 22:54

I dong think its necessarily US feeling causing the brawl.

I used to be an ice hockey fan after discovering it in Canada. I watched quite a bit in the late 90s. Brawls between the teams were really, really common. One time players were even joining in from the benches and the ice cleaning machine had to be used afterwards to clean the blood off the ice !!!

I came to the conclusion that brawling and ice hockey go hand in hand in Canada 😂

We’re big ice hockey fans - currently in Boston for the 4Nations final. Perfect evening - Canada won!

JasmineAllen · 20/02/2025 22:54

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 18:33

Just saw a video of a punch up at ice hockey and brawl

Looked bad but also they were just left to battering each other, no one stepped in. Bizarre

I dong think its necessarily US feeling causing the brawl.

I used to be an ice hockey fan after discovering it in Canada. I watched quite a bit in the late 90s. Brawls between the teams were really, really common. One time players were even joining in from the benches and the ice cleaning machine had to be used afterwards to clean the blood off the ice !!!

I came to the conclusion that brawling and ice hockey go hand in hand in Canada 😂

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 22:18

user44456b · 20/02/2025 21:41

I think that's a pretty universal phenomenon though. Like all the people here who voted for Brexit and then were shocked to discover they couldn't just up and retire to Spain. Or the ones who blame the after effects on the remainers.

I think that this differs in scale. Few people lost their jobs as a direct consequence of Brexit, whereas DOGE has been massacring hundreds of thousands of employees in a matter of weeks. For farmers in the UK there was around four years notice that things would be changing (even if they didn't specifically know what would replace the CAP). Farmers in the US on the other hand have been growing food for USAID only for the agency buying it to be shut down, and completing environmental projects only to have the grants they were expecting upon completion cut.

Nor for that matter has the UK seen a mass round-up of immigrants (legal or illegal, ICE don't care as they've got quotas to fill). European nationals already in the UK were offered settled status (though that hasn't been reciprocated everywhere) so no one's father has been arrested in a raid like in the US.

The personality cult is weird too. We haven't seen anything like that.

BIossomtoes · 20/02/2025 21:56

Turkeyneck101 · 20/02/2025 21:36

Trump is Musks ventriloquist dummy. Musk has got 2 contracts, one for 400m dollars for Tesla and one for 300 million for spacex in the last 2 weeks. Magas think he is doing his cost cutting for the good of the people....when all musk wants to do is be a trillionaire and go to Mars.

Let hope he goes to Mars sooner rather than later. Never to return.

user44456b · 20/02/2025 21:41

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 17:17

It's true that they aren't too bright:

"Yay, Trump is going to fire all the inefficient federal workers and cut funds to everything... Wait, what do you mean that I'm fired and my husband's farm subsidies have been cut? This must be a mistake, we voted for him three times, surely he doesn't mean to include us!"

They'll do anything but admit that they were wrong.

I think that's a pretty universal phenomenon though. Like all the people here who voted for Brexit and then were shocked to discover they couldn't just up and retire to Spain. Or the ones who blame the after effects on the remainers.

Turkeyneck101 · 20/02/2025 21:36

Trump is Musks ventriloquist dummy. Musk has got 2 contracts, one for 400m dollars for Tesla and one for 300 million for spacex in the last 2 weeks. Magas think he is doing his cost cutting for the good of the people....when all musk wants to do is be a trillionaire and go to Mars.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 20/02/2025 18:54

I'm not on X but can anyone verify that Musk put up a post about billionaires being fed up of subsidising everyone else? Saw it on FB lol but these days nothing would surprise me 😂

Parker231 · 20/02/2025 18:23

lifeonmars100 · 20/02/2025 17:58

Has he reduced the price of eggs yet?

They’ve gone up again - Americans are going to be coming over the border to buy Canadian eggs which are really cheap!

lifeonmars100 · 20/02/2025 17:58

Has he reduced the price of eggs yet?

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 17:17

EasternStandard · 16/02/2025 13:36

An awful lots of Americans are beginning to understand what a huge mistake they made voting for Trump. A wake up call!

I don't think that's reflected in polling. He's pretty much doing what voters gave mandate to do

It's true that they aren't too bright:

"Yay, Trump is going to fire all the inefficient federal workers and cut funds to everything... Wait, what do you mean that I'm fired and my husband's farm subsidies have been cut? This must be a mistake, we voted for him three times, surely he doesn't mean to include us!"

They'll do anything but admit that they were wrong.

Serpentstooth · 20/02/2025 12:06

Quite from random Ukrainian on radio 'everyone in E Europe knows Trump is a Russian asset'. Nobody in US appears to be aware of this. This isn't going to end well and its not going to go Trump's way but its going to take a while to get there.

Echobelly · 20/02/2025 08:36

Mrsbloggz · 17/02/2025 12:42

With trump appearing keen to align America with Russia Peter, Zeihan has an interesting take on what's happening in Russia
https://mailchi.mp/zeihan/the-russian-depopulation
Russian birth and death rates have fluctuated quite a bit due to major events. The most notable was the demographic "death cross" in the 1990s where deaths outnumbered births; this sent the Russians down a dark path of population decline. Despite some brief recoveries throughout the past few decades, new data out of Russia has confirmed things have worsened.
That recent Russian data is likely overly optimistic, so things are bad. Combine that bleak demographic outlook with no improvements to infrastructure, education, or public health, and you can do the math. Of course, the Ukraine War has accelerated this crisis, as the Russians have sent wave after wave into the meat grinder. That current strategy is unsustainable, but a victory in Ukraine could at least put a little bit of air into the Russians' lungs. A loss or stagnation would suck even more air out.
Either way, Russia is quickly hacking away at its final opportunity at demographic recovery, which brings long-term viability as a functional state into question.

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I mean, make no mistake, Russia is broke - no money and now it can't even boast the biggest population, something it always relied on. Bot farms have been a good investment for them though, got them Trump who might be their best hope of becoming a threat to Europe again.

I reckon Trump has a thing about getting pals with Russia because its the place that was America's boogeyman through his childhood and early adulthood and he thinks the world will see him as having 'tamed' Russia because he's such a great 'dealmaker'. Whereas of course, Russia has tamed him.

I don't believe he's been blackmailed, or cut some kind of deal to act for Russia. He just had no clue he's being played. Unfortunately, that's pretty dangerous for the world, especially Europe.

Cantonet · 20/02/2025 08:20

He's taken the Russian side & is increasingly acting like a dictator himself.

Loveumagenta · 20/02/2025 07:30

He’s an idiot. How are Ukraine supposed to hold fair elections in the middle of a war?
and as for dictators- Jesus Christ, Trump Sat there with Putin of all people and accused someone else of not holding fair elections???

KimberleyClark · 20/02/2025 07:09

Today’s insane declaration from Trump: Ukrainian President Zelensky is a dictator. Takes one to know one. Starmer has found some spine.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyrnjrjrr5o

Loveumagenta · 18/02/2025 07:34

Convolvulus · 17/02/2025 23:34

Inevitably, there are an awful lot of rather sad posts on social media from people who have lost their jobs having voted for Trump. They were all convinced that whoever he meant when he talked about getting rid of useless employees, it couldn't possibly be them.

Hard to feel sorry for them. They were fine about all the rest of it? So long as they got more money??

LifeExperience · 18/02/2025 00:22

Serpentstooth · 16/02/2025 22:12

Lunacy. International shipping needs reliable and consistent information, there's a lot of traffic out there. Are liners and boats going to see tragedies similar to the recent US air disasters because Bigly's ego has been indulged and confused all the navigation.FFS.

Fear not. Ships don't use the name of a body of water to navigate.

Convolvulus · 17/02/2025 23:34

Inevitably, there are an awful lot of rather sad posts on social media from people who have lost their jobs having voted for Trump. They were all convinced that whoever he meant when he talked about getting rid of useless employees, it couldn't possibly be them.