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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 20:20

HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/02/2025 19:27

I don't really care what colour they are, Trump has sacked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff CQ Brown with immediate effect. There is no body in charge of the US military forces this weekend.

Christ, I hope nobody tells Putin. Intelligent Americans must be horrified and frightened in equal measures.

Parker231 · 22/02/2025 20:10

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 21/02/2025 08:30

That’s perfection. 💕

We will never be Americans.

Pictures doing the rounds are getting better 🤣

Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world
HappyNewFeckingYear · 22/02/2025 19:27

I don't really care what colour they are, Trump has sacked the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff CQ Brown with immediate effect. There is no body in charge of the US military forces this weekend.

BIossomtoes · 22/02/2025 19:22

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

It’s equal opportunity sacking.

user44456b · 22/02/2025 18:01

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 17:30

Maybe. But in USA money is all powerful. Vance is there for his useful appeal to the thoughtless Trump lovers, given his 'hillbilly heritage' but hasn't got enough dosh to speak for himself. Trump is busily getting his revenge for not being accepted into the higher echelons of US Society, even more contemptuous of nouveaux than our own aristocracy. He won't be finished for a while yet. It's supremely depressing.

I dunno. Being the voice of doom, I'd say Silicon Valley bought him his senate seat for a reason.

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 17:30

Maybe. But in USA money is all powerful. Vance is there for his useful appeal to the thoughtless Trump lovers, given his 'hillbilly heritage' but hasn't got enough dosh to speak for himself. Trump is busily getting his revenge for not being accepted into the higher echelons of US Society, even more contemptuous of nouveaux than our own aristocracy. He won't be finished for a while yet. It's supremely depressing.

hollyblueivy · 22/02/2025 16:48

Top military sackings to include a black man and a woman. How can he get away with this blatant sexism and racism?

user44456b · 22/02/2025 16:37

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 14:53

Vance has the charisma of a cabbage patch doll. Without Trump he’d struggle.

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I'd like to think that, as personally, I'd enjoy nothing more than punching him in his smug lying face. But I suspect that once out from under Trump's thumb, we're going to be unpleasantly surprised by his political viability. Clearly some deep, long-term thought has been put into his future by some very wealthy and powerful people (Yarvin, Thiel et al).

That said, I'll be very, very happy to be proved wrong here.

CaveMum · 22/02/2025 16:13

I’ve seen a theory that Vance is being sidelined - he’s not been “allowed” to talk about the big stuff in public. As they said on Pod Save America, it’s like he’s not allowed in the big boy meetings.

Loveumagenta · 22/02/2025 14:53

user44456b · 22/02/2025 09:19

Yes, unfortunately. I fear we underestimate Vance (and his puppeteers) at our peril. There's something deeply wrong with him, but he's smart.

@DdraigGoch

It may be harder to buy an election in Europe, but they've been pretty successful at buying division. Brexit was certainly essentially bought.

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Vance has the charisma of a cabbage patch doll. Without Trump he’d struggle.

Mrsbloggz · 22/02/2025 13:38

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 13:03

And then? He's not far away from that right now. Look at the paltry collection of no-marks he's surrounded himself with.

I don't know it feels a bit 'all bets are off' 😬😬
A significant proportion of Americans will identify with the paltry no-marks, since they lack the education and critical thinking skills to see through them. But if the USA loses its standing in the world (and it surely will with this bunch of twits running it) then the wealthy educated people in the USA won't want to go down with the sinking ship.
But how could the USA be a sinking ship . . . what with its military might and all that.
I don't have the brains to figure it all out 🤷🏻‍♀️😱

Serpentstooth · 22/02/2025 13:03

And then? He's not far away from that right now. Look at the paltry collection of no-marks he's surrounded himself with.

Mrsbloggz · 22/02/2025 12:21

The hope that I hold on to is that ultimately they will overplay their hands and/or back themselves into a corner that they can't get out of.
Trump will only be happy if he feels he is the best/cleverest/richest etc. Anyone with any ambition or ability will be a threat to him and he will have to get rid of them so he will only ever end up surrounded by incompetents 🤷🏻‍♀️

user44456b · 22/02/2025 09:19

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 09:16

Vance isn't an idiot though. Or rather, he is, but he's also smart and nasty.

Yes, unfortunately. I fear we underestimate Vance (and his puppeteers) at our peril. There's something deeply wrong with him, but he's smart.

@DdraigGoch

It may be harder to buy an election in Europe, but they've been pretty successful at buying division. Brexit was certainly essentially bought.

Porcuporpoise · 22/02/2025 09:16

Vance isn't an idiot though. Or rather, he is, but he's also smart and nasty.

DdraigGoch · 22/02/2025 02:03

Yellowrosessmellpetaly · 22/02/2025 00:22

My concern is once he croaks and it cannot be far off we're left with Musk and his lunacy with their feet left under the table.

Not to mention the idiot Vance

Yellowrosessmellpetaly · 22/02/2025 00:22

My concern is once he croaks and it cannot be far off we're left with Musk and his lunacy with their feet left under the table.

nearlylovemyusername · 22/02/2025 00:11

Serpentstooth · 21/02/2025 22:35

If Musk cant buy Reform, he'll buy the Tories. Plenty of the rump that's left of Tory Party will line up for it. Hands out, chaps, Elon's coming.

This looks plausible. Have you seen the latest with Liz Truss???

As to buying a party and political donations - there's no need for this here. It's enough to have some bot farms sitting elsewhere and doing the job

squidgie · 21/02/2025 22:43

DdraigGoch · 21/02/2025 19:23

Muskrat has already decided that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka "Tommy Robinson") is more to his taste. Muskrat will learn from the German election that the checks and balances in most European countries are a bit stronger, so even if AfD get 45% of the vote they won't be joining a government. Romania's courts have suspended voting following suspected Russian interference. In the UK there are much stronger rules about campaign funding and messaging so the ability to buy an election is much diminished compared with the US.

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I hope you're right.

Serpentstooth · 21/02/2025 22:35

If Musk cant buy Reform, he'll buy the Tories. Plenty of the rump that's left of Tory Party will line up for it. Hands out, chaps, Elon's coming.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 21/02/2025 19:57

@DdraigGoch does Muskrat not understand how UK politics work?
Stephen Yaxley-Lennon vs Andrew Tate without a party behind them? Or is he maneuvering towards a new monarch?

DdraigGoch · 21/02/2025 19:23

squidgie · 21/02/2025 18:54

Yet. Just wait until we get closer to the next general election. Musk is already bankrolling Reform.

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Muskrat has already decided that Stephen Yaxley-Lennon (aka "Tommy Robinson") is more to his taste. Muskrat will learn from the German election that the checks and balances in most European countries are a bit stronger, so even if AfD get 45% of the vote they won't be joining a government. Romania's courts have suspended voting following suspected Russian interference. In the UK there are much stronger rules about campaign funding and messaging so the ability to buy an election is much diminished compared with the US.

squidgie · 21/02/2025 18:54

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 22:18

I think that this differs in scale. Few people lost their jobs as a direct consequence of Brexit, whereas DOGE has been massacring hundreds of thousands of employees in a matter of weeks. For farmers in the UK there was around four years notice that things would be changing (even if they didn't specifically know what would replace the CAP). Farmers in the US on the other hand have been growing food for USAID only for the agency buying it to be shut down, and completing environmental projects only to have the grants they were expecting upon completion cut.

Nor for that matter has the UK seen a mass round-up of immigrants (legal or illegal, ICE don't care as they've got quotas to fill). European nationals already in the UK were offered settled status (though that hasn't been reciprocated everywhere) so no one's father has been arrested in a raid like in the US.

The personality cult is weird too. We haven't seen anything like that.

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Yet. Just wait until we get closer to the next general election. Musk is already bankrolling Reform.

squidgie · 21/02/2025 18:50

DdraigGoch · 20/02/2025 17:17

It's true that they aren't too bright:

"Yay, Trump is going to fire all the inefficient federal workers and cut funds to everything... Wait, what do you mean that I'm fired and my husband's farm subsidies have been cut? This must be a mistake, we voted for him three times, surely he doesn't mean to include us!"

They'll do anything but admit that they were wrong.

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To be fair it's the same here. Brexit, anyone?

Mrsbloggz · 21/02/2025 18:20

I find this man soothing to listen to:

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