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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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Vitriolinsanity · 05/02/2025 19:31

I'd bet good money if shown a map he couldn't find Gaza.

I found myself actually considering his plan for the time it was on the news. In essence Gaza is a demolition zone, if a person had the choice why would they choose to live there. There's a certain logic to thinking outside the box.

But the salient point is that I'm not Palestinian and have no right to impose that thinking on what anyone considers their home.

Painting it Trump gold and calling it a Riviera isn't just polishing a poorly conceived turd of an idea. Particularly when you're standing next to Netanyahu.

Gymnopedie · 05/02/2025 19:29

Nanny0gg · 05/02/2025 17:44

Have you read how Elon Musk has moved some of his (young) employees into Govt offices?

He's getting into their systems and replacing their code.

There is no knowing what he's accessing and what he's going to change

That's even more terrifying

Read Heather Cox Richardson on Facebook

What I really fear is that Musk is being set up to be the next President. Either by himself or by Trump, by him having an inside track to government. And if he manages not to completely crash America I can see the Republicans might well go for it. Trump has been a winner for them, Musk would be Trump mk2.

Musk is a very very dangerous loose canon. He could (you wouldn't think it was possible) be worse than the Orange One.

JudgeJ · 05/02/2025 19:27

100A · 05/02/2025 17:34

The amount of media time given to his incoherent ramblings is insane. How did America come to this?

Sadly there are many Americans who will support him entirely, making America great again.

BurntBroccoli · 05/02/2025 19:24

I feel like I'm in Back to the Future II - surreal!

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:24

Seriouslynonono · 05/02/2025 19:19

Yeah but if he's spending the money, he'll rebuild it in the likeness he wants, in the manner of Trump, and he will lay claim to any money made from the new area I expect.
Imagine suddenly having Trump as your new landlord?!
He hasn't said anything about taking the walls down . . . .

But surely having a roof over their heads, running water, an actual infrastructure, is preferable to what they already have, which is absolutely nothing. The place is now just a pile of rubble. The Palestinians won’t give a jot who is their ‘landlord’ if they’ve got homes to go to, and not tents.

Mrsbloggz · 05/02/2025 19:23

AcrossthePond55 · 05/02/2025 19:04

All the shit he's pulling on the 'world stage' is to keep people's minds off of his real objective; turning the US into an oligarchy with him as the Head Oligarch. Thing is, he's too stupid to realize that Musk, Thiel and the others in the Cabal are feeding his ego, but will get rid of him as soon as it happens. He's basically their shill at this point and when they've accomplished their goals, he'll be toast.

How did it happen? I don't know. Complacency, belief that our Constitution was our safeguard and not seeing that it all depended on powerful people behaving honourably? We can point to a thousand different things and I expect it's a little bit of all of them. But that's sort of water under the bridge. The question now is how (or if) we can get out of this mess.

I know that you are far far better placed than me to judge this, but I still think that Trump will make mincemeat of Musk.
As much as I abhor the man I think he's a much wilier old fox than Musk is.

Mummyoflittledragon · 05/02/2025 19:22

May you live in interesting times…

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 05/02/2025 19:22

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:16

But he hasn’t said he’s throwing them out of a Gaza permanently? He’s said they need to be removed temporarily to other surrounding countries whilst Gaza is being rebuilt. Which makes sense, as due to the actions of Hamas, the place is flattened, and not habitable, yet people are pouring into the area. There literally is no infrastructure.

Let's face it, we all know he'd just turn Gaza into a Middle Eastern golf course.

Weedoormatnomore · 05/02/2025 19:21

I do feel he is hiding his true intentions under all the madness.

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/02/2025 19:20

squidgie · 05/02/2025 18:57

Exactly, and it will happen here too if Reform get into power. Elon Musk will be brought in to do the same here.

I'm not too worried about this. By the time of the next GE, Trump and Musk will have fallen out spectacularly and this POTUS will be either br gone or will be King of America.

romatheroamer · 05/02/2025 19:20

Of course he has an effect in the UK when Starmer and Lammy have to tie themselves in knots in statements pretending he's OK when they don't believe a word of it. At least we can say what we think of him while leading politicians here are bound to go along with what a lot of "ill-advised" (trying to use a kind word there) Americans decided.

squidgie · 05/02/2025 19:20

I honestly don't think people realise what bad news this all is, for us too.

I can see Farage being ushered in with fanfare in four years, Elon Musk swinging his wrecking ball within days, with Andrew Tate as a minister for equalities perhaps?

We should fight this stuff now.

HeddaGarbled · 05/02/2025 19:20

No 16% don’t think Trump is right - they think the OP is unreasonable to think it will happen.

Tupperwaremofo · 05/02/2025 19:20

Out of roughly 9 billion people on the planet, the most powerful person is....Donald Trump. It's bat shit. Completely bat shit crazy.

Seriouslynonono · 05/02/2025 19:19

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:16

But he hasn’t said he’s throwing them out of a Gaza permanently? He’s said they need to be removed temporarily to other surrounding countries whilst Gaza is being rebuilt. Which makes sense, as due to the actions of Hamas, the place is flattened, and not habitable, yet people are pouring into the area. There literally is no infrastructure.

Yeah but if he's spending the money, he'll rebuild it in the likeness he wants, in the manner of Trump, and he will lay claim to any money made from the new area I expect.
Imagine suddenly having Trump as your new landlord?!
He hasn't said anything about taking the walls down . . . .

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 05/02/2025 19:19

@username299 "The government you elect is the government you deserve. Thomas Jefferson"

I never get that quote, I didn't elect Cameron, Johnson or Truss and I certainly didn't deserve them.

Nanny0gg · 05/02/2025 19:17

@Radyward
You ok with Musk accessing your personal details soon?

Sacking people because he feels like it?
Blocking access to crucial info because he feels like it?
Re-routing money to where he likes?

With his personal unauthorised young employees?

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:16

But he hasn’t said he’s throwing them out of a Gaza permanently? He’s said they need to be removed temporarily to other surrounding countries whilst Gaza is being rebuilt. Which makes sense, as due to the actions of Hamas, the place is flattened, and not habitable, yet people are pouring into the area. There literally is no infrastructure.

Seriouslynonono · 05/02/2025 19:15

It's like an episode of the Simpsons where Homer becomes President 😆

FreedomandPeace · 05/02/2025 19:11

Wow 16% think Trump is right to do this . 🤯

youve987456 · 05/02/2025 19:09

A few phrases regularly spring to mind with the Americans and this crazy situation.

Fuck around and find out
Your reap what you sow
Thoughts and prayers

This would all amuse me massively if Trump was being isolationist but everything he is doing will eventually impact us.

Fairyliz · 05/02/2025 19:06

Adelstrop · 05/02/2025 17:37

I’m waiting for him to suggest that the population of England should be relocated to the Australian outback so that he can turn It into a giant golf course.

To be fair that seems quite appealing given the horrible weather here. 😂

Greywhippet · 05/02/2025 19:06

Mommybunny · 05/02/2025 19:03

I wonder if the Arab Americans in Dearborn Michigan are patting themselves on the back for voting for Trump because Kamala was too close to “Genocide Joe”.

If your response to this from Trump is to somehow blame voters who wouldn’t vote for Biden, or who voted for Stein then there are just no words.

Brainstorm23 · 05/02/2025 19:05

@100A Steve Bannon was on a podcast and explained the strategy pretty well. Trump knows this is all nonsense but the endless stream of bullshit announcements is a distraction from what he's actually up to. For example birth right citizenship is in the US constitution. No executive order can override that. It lasted all of 2 days

Article at http://archive.today/N9PWQ

AcrossthePond55 · 05/02/2025 19:04

All the shit he's pulling on the 'world stage' is to keep people's minds off of his real objective; turning the US into an oligarchy with him as the Head Oligarch. Thing is, he's too stupid to realize that Musk, Thiel and the others in the Cabal are feeding his ego, but will get rid of him as soon as it happens. He's basically their shill at this point and when they've accomplished their goals, he'll be toast.

How did it happen? I don't know. Complacency, belief that our Constitution was our safeguard and not seeing that it all depended on powerful people behaving honourably? We can point to a thousand different things and I expect it's a little bit of all of them. But that's sort of water under the bridge. The question now is how (or if) we can get out of this mess.