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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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AcrossthePond55 · 05/02/2025 20:17

Mrsbloggz · 05/02/2025 19:23

I know that you are far far better placed than me to judge this, but I still think that Trump will make mincemeat of Musk.
As much as I abhor the man I think he's a much wilier old fox than Musk is.

Time will tell. If Trump's ego gets too bruised by all the posts about "President Musk" and "Vice President Trump" and saying that Musk is leading him around by the nose, you might be right. But I think Trump may find it harder to get rid of him than we think. Musk is wily too, and I think sneakily savvier than Trump, who has no subtlety himself. He only knows how to convince others to do his dirty work rather than subtly doing it himself. God only knows what dirt Musk may have dug up on Trump in his trolling through the Govt financial systems, which include the IRS database. And Musk knows that he's not eligible to be President so he needs a 'useful idiot' to carry out his commands. Plus sometimes it's better to be the power behind the throne than to sit the throne oneself. Easier to dodge the bullets.

One of the problems with dragging trash around on your coattails is that it can be awful hard to shake off.

Hazeby · 05/02/2025 20:16

The US troops are going to be very busy. They’ve got to invade Panama, Greenland, Canada and Gaza all in the next four years. The overtime bill will be immense.

squidgie · 05/02/2025 20:16

lifeonmars100 · 05/02/2025 20:09

Musk scares me far more than Trump and I find Trump pretty terrifying. That an unelected and clearly very right wing person has managed to buy their way right into the heart of government is profoundly worrying. Trump is old, clearly physically unfit and very probably in cognitive decline. There is a possibility he will not see out the full term of his presidency and in the meantime Musk is shoring up his power base in readiness for full control

And he'll be coming here next. He's already interfering massively in European politics.

Redheadedstepchild · 05/02/2025 20:11

Redheadedstepchild · 05/02/2025 19:45

I'm no political expert but I think what he does is:

Propose something completely outrageous, get everybody in a panic then negociate a climbdown. He's a New York real estate developer in origin. We're kind of living in an 1980's Sidney Sheldon novel with him.

I know that I'm commiting the cardinal sin of quoting myself but I just think that he sees things through the prism of real estate and construction.

That's why he's interested in North Carolina, Palestine, Los Angeles. Build baby build. That's not automatically a bad thing. Infrastructure is a problem. Who knows? I'm not an expert.

lifeonmars100 · 05/02/2025 20:09

QueefofSheena · 05/02/2025 18:45

It’s the Musk stuff that’s the most terrifying. He’s systematically working his way through all government departments and taking over. If I were American I’d be very scared about my banking details right now, I’m not entirely comfortable at this distance. That’s before you look at what’s happening with the FBI

Musk scares me far more than Trump and I find Trump pretty terrifying. That an unelected and clearly very right wing person has managed to buy their way right into the heart of government is profoundly worrying. Trump is old, clearly physically unfit and very probably in cognitive decline. There is a possibility he will not see out the full term of his presidency and in the meantime Musk is shoring up his power base in readiness for full control

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 20:09

MyFlightWasAwfulThanksForAsking · 05/02/2025 17:39

Exactly. The fuckwits voted for him knowing what he was like.

They share the twisted vision.
What dies "relocating the Palestinians" sound like, fgs.

WhineAndWine1 · 05/02/2025 20:08

So sorry for the typos!

WhineAndWine1 · 05/02/2025 20:07

There is a great opinion piece in the NY times in faceted the released it on TikTok. It's all about how we shouldn't believe him when he comes out with this stuff, he's using this rapid firing because he doesn't have an actual plan and it would be more concerning if he went in quietly and took him time.

I probably haven't explained it every well but it's by Ezra Khan if anyone wants to take a look

EasternStandard · 05/02/2025 20:04

Posted by mistake..

They are going for defence, withdrawing troops and aid and maybe something to do with NATO

EarthSight · 05/02/2025 20:04

Loveumagenta · 05/02/2025 17:48

He’s fucking bananas and I don’t see how any of this is going to Make ordinary Americans any richer which is presumably why they voted for him. Though he is chucking people out of the country pretty sharpish which is pleasing a lot of MAGAs.

If he carries on he's going to seriously piss off the millions of voters who did vote for him. They wanted more focus on domestic issues, whereas Trump seems to be flailing about, one international land grab attempt after another currently.

EasternStandard · 05/02/2025 20:03

MrsSchrute · 05/02/2025 18:48

All of this nonsense about Greenland, Gaze etc is a distraction. It's designed to make us all look this way while he quietly destroys the US government in the background.

I don't think Greenland is a distraction although today's Gaza announcement might be

The US are going for a great big US raft, isolated

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 20:01

HPFA · 05/02/2025 19:49

He's not planning on giving them homes. They're all going to be dumped in Egypt and Jordan, apparently.

He’s temporarily relocating them to other countries whilst Gaza is being rebuilt. Not by himself or Americans, but with the assistance of other Arab countries, if he can get them onboard. As it is currently, Gaza is like a gigantic refugee camp - with a lot of homeless people. What do others think should be done here? Hamas should in theory be rebuilding, but we all know they won’t.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 05/02/2025 20:01

Nanny0gg · 05/02/2025 17:44

Have you read how Elon Musk has moved some of his (young) employees into Govt offices?

He's getting into their systems and replacing their code.

There is no knowing what he's accessing and what he's going to change

That's even more terrifying

Read Heather Cox Richardson on Facebook

Just been and looked at that Facebook post. 😳😮😫

Seriouslynonono · 05/02/2025 19:55

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:24

But surely having a roof over their heads, running water, an actual infrastructure, is preferable to what they already have, which is absolutely nothing. The place is now just a pile of rubble. The Palestinians won’t give a jot who is their ‘landlord’ if they’ve got homes to go to, and not tents.

True

FirefliesintheHydrangeaBushes · 05/02/2025 19:54

Sadly I am not sure America is losing the respect of the world.

Over half the world does not live in a democracy. Plenty of loony leaders around. More of the world than I would like to contemplate respect him just fine and think he has some great ideas.

HPFA · 05/02/2025 19:49

Livelovebehappy · 05/02/2025 19:24

But surely having a roof over their heads, running water, an actual infrastructure, is preferable to what they already have, which is absolutely nothing. The place is now just a pile of rubble. The Palestinians won’t give a jot who is their ‘landlord’ if they’ve got homes to go to, and not tents.

He's not planning on giving them homes. They're all going to be dumped in Egypt and Jordan, apparently.

HPFA · 05/02/2025 19:47

coldcallerbaiter · 05/02/2025 18:34

I think he has got carried away with his ideas. It is meddling and whilst the British division had good intentions, we are in a different era now. Let the Israelis handle it themselves, I don’t hold out much hope of peace now. Americans have plenty of coastline to invest in. How does this benefit them? American taxpayers won’t want to invest in this piece of land. So he wants businesses to invest? The Palestinians would benefit from a cash injection and jobs, but they would resent it too, This riviera of the Middle East would get bombed to high heaven by terrorists /freedom fighters anyway

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Exactly.

Apart from the immorality of ethnic cleansing the plan is utterly bonkers. Are American soldiers going to force two million people out of their homes and dump them in the desert? How many would be killed doing that? Why would any companies invest in a piece of land that would be subject to constant threat? Who foots the bill for keeping the buildings and construction workers safe?

And who wants to stay in a luxury hotel built on a graveyard surrounded by armed guards and under constant threat of attack? Not exactly a relaxing hiday is it?

Redheadedstepchild · 05/02/2025 19:45

I'm no political expert but I think what he does is:

Propose something completely outrageous, get everybody in a panic then negociate a climbdown. He's a New York real estate developer in origin. We're kind of living in an 1980's Sidney Sheldon novel with him.

merrymelodies · 05/02/2025 19:41

Yes. It's so much worse than the last time that idiot was in the White House. We were watching the Handmaid's Tale recently and it's terrifying to realize that it might not be that far from reality.

NeelyOHara1 · 05/02/2025 19:40

His appeal is that he speaks his brain farts which can come across as "change" as opposed to the Democrat cookie cutter comment by committee status quo merchants. Bernie Sanders being the exception!

DottieMoon · 05/02/2025 19:33

suburberphobe · 05/02/2025 18:13

now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told

Poor choice of words.....

He wants the Palestinians from Gaza to be replaced to Jordan and Egypt.

Yes, he's totally off his rocker. God help the world.

Not a poor choice of words.

That is exactly what ethnic cleansing is!

Gardengirl108 · 05/02/2025 19:33

Adelstrop · 05/02/2025 17:37

I’m waiting for him to suggest that the population of England should be relocated to the Australian outback so that he can turn It into a giant golf course.

Don’t be giving him any ideas!

delvan · 05/02/2025 19:32

Was Musk born in America, I think it was South Africa. But I suppose that prerequisite for candidacy for POTUS could be changed. Watch this space.

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