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Every day waking up to yet another insane declaration from Trump. America is losing the respect of the world

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100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

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AllFurCoatAndFrillyKnickers · 05/02/2025 22:46

Mommybunny · 05/02/2025 19:03

I wonder if the Arab Americans in Dearborn Michigan are patting themselves on the back for voting for Trump because Kamala was too close to “Genocide Joe”.

Also they seem to have forgotten Trump's Muslim Ban from his first term. People can have short memories.

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:45

Lighteningstrikes · 05/02/2025 22:26

@100A in your opinion - not everyone’s and certainly not the overwhelming majority that voted for him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5w9w160xdo.amp

Another take on his 'landslide'.

Head and shoulders black and white picture of Donald Trump in suit and tie, with map of USA behind with stripes and stars overlaid over it

Just how big was Donald Trump’s election victory? - BBC News

The US president-elect has emphasised the scale of his win – but data shows that most voters picked someone else.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn5w9w160xdo.amp

TooBigForMyBoots · 05/02/2025 22:38

Cerial · 05/02/2025 20:23

I must have missed that announcement … are the Palestinians getting rid of the Israelis???

He should invite them over to America to stay, purely on a temporary basis, of course, while he Makes Gaza Livable Again.

samarrange · 05/02/2025 22:34

squidgie · 05/02/2025 18:46

But it's not just America, Reform are riding high in the polls.

I'm genuinely terrified.

I'm not happy about this either, but perhaps if the US turns into a real shitshow it will have a calming effect on people who don't yet understand what Reform is about. Support for the EU has increased in pretty well every European country since Brexit because they have seen what the consequences are.

Ironically, the first past the post system works against Reform because their support is fairly evenly spread across the UK and they take votes from both Labour and the Tories. Labour only needs about 25% of the popular vote to get 100 seats, the Tories need about 30%, and Reform would need close to 35%. Also if they looked like getting close to that I would strongly hope for a Lib-Lab electoral pact (with whichever party came lower in 2024 not fielding a candidate) in a couple of hundred constituencies.

sleepwouldbenice · 05/02/2025 22:33

Lighteningstrikes · 05/02/2025 22:26

@100A in your opinion - not everyone’s and certainly not the overwhelming majority that voted for him.

And in the opinion of most of the rest of the world. Except China and Russia

Loveumagenta · 05/02/2025 22:31

Toddlerteaplease · 05/02/2025 22:29

I thought similar!

Oh don’t exaggerate. Scotland would do. Shove the Scots into England ( keep some back for labour) and turn Scotland into a giant golf course for rich yanks. It’ll be beautiful, so beautiful. The Scottish riviera.

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:31

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 22:20

How the plans were to be implemented was never detailed....

Oh please.. that might work on the maga base but as far as I'm aware my brain still operates on a thinking basis.

How did that go ? ' Oopsie daisy well what do you know we just happen to have a 900 page document that details what we can implement in the first few weeks of your tenure. We've mentioned your name Mr trump about 90 times throughout it...isn't that just peachy ....and coincidental.' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Toddlerteaplease · 05/02/2025 22:29

Adelstrop · 05/02/2025 17:37

I’m waiting for him to suggest that the population of England should be relocated to the Australian outback so that he can turn It into a giant golf course.

I thought similar!

Lighteningstrikes · 05/02/2025 22:26

@100A in your opinion - not everyone’s and certainly not the overwhelming majority that voted for him.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 05/02/2025 22:23

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But that's the whole problem with democracy isn't it. If you are not with the majority, you never have your voice heard and you never get your turn. The same people win every time. And so the frustration and sense of injustice rises.

CaveMum · 05/02/2025 22:22

Showdogworkingdog · 05/02/2025 22:14

I agree. Last night I was listening to a podcast where they were analysing his announcements and trying to decide what his plan is. He hasn’t got a plan, he’s just spouting incoherent crap and lapping up all the attention. It’s not like US voters were not warned, did none of them ever watch one of his ‘speeches’ last time or during the election campaign? How are so many people so fucking gullible?

The problem is that most people (Americans, Brits, whatever) don’t actually care about politics or pay attention to it. I’m not saying that that is the right way to think, but it is a fact. People who care about politics pay attention, people who don’t care, don’t. Most Trump voters won’t have listened to his speeches, they get their “news” in 30 second bites - there’s a reason this was referred to as the Tik Tok Election.

Dominic Sandbrook said it best on election night:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/WAyIAJCWVxA?si=S8II4a4TgABWpWYd

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 22:20

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:18

No indeed not, but I suspect most didn't read it , alot couldnt read it, or understand it,
trump denied he knew anything about it ( in other words he lied 😧who knew he could do such a thing!!!!) and most magas didn't care so long as it wasn't a democrat, a woman, but especially not, a black one!🙄

There is apparently the question of some 3 million votes for KH that were marked as non viable ...but then that would mean that trumps team cheated 🥸 so that would be a no then. 🤫

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How the plans were to be implemented was never detailed....

LambriniBobInIsleworthISeesYa · 05/02/2025 22:20

@Patterncarmen yeeeeesh. Like Princess Diana's life wasn't already tragic enough. Christ. What a Prince (pun intended).

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:18

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 22:10

Didn't stop 77,284,118 voters, or 49.8 percent of the votes cast, electing him.

www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers

No indeed not, but I suspect most didn't read it , alot couldnt read it, or understand it,
trump denied he knew anything about it ( in other words he lied 😧who knew he could do such a thing!!!!) and most magas didn't care so long as it wasn't a democrat, a woman, but especially not, a black one!🙄

There is apparently the question of some 3 million votes for KH that were marked as non viable ...but then that would mean that trumps team cheated 🥸 so that would be a no then. 🤫

theotherplace · 05/02/2025 22:17

What podcast was that? I'd like to listen

Showdogworkingdog · 05/02/2025 22:14

100A · 05/02/2025 17:34

The amount of media time given to his incoherent ramblings is insane. How did America come to this?

I agree. Last night I was listening to a podcast where they were analysing his announcements and trying to decide what his plan is. He hasn’t got a plan, he’s just spouting incoherent crap and lapping up all the attention. It’s not like US voters were not warned, did none of them ever watch one of his ‘speeches’ last time or during the election campaign? How are so many people so fucking gullible?

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 22:12

Stafanko · 05/02/2025 22:07

I welcome it at this point. Nice bit of oblivion sounds lovely

Climate change karma.

Cerial · 05/02/2025 22:11

Humdingerydoo · 05/02/2025 20:50

But the home owners who lost their homes in LA still own their land. Anything they rebuild is theirs. Anything Trump builds in Gaza will belong to Trump.

Funny you think Trump would actually invest in Gaza….

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 22:10

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:07

Have a read of Project 2025...that should shed any doubts that he is an advocate for women.

Didn't stop 77,284,118 voters, or 49.8 percent of the votes cast, electing him.

www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers

Stafanko · 05/02/2025 22:07

coldcallerbaiter · 05/02/2025 21:39

Well there is an asteroid that has a 1 in 67 chance of hitting the earth in 2031, so maybe that will take our minds off this.

I welcome it at this point. Nice bit of oblivion sounds lovely

Turkeyneck101 · 05/02/2025 22:07

Patterncarmen · 05/02/2025 21:56

I am really tired of hearing that Trump is a woman’s advocate.

Exhibit A: What he said about Princess Diana, https://people.com/politics/donald-trump-sex-princess-diana-hiv-test-howard-stern-interview/

Exhibit B: Donald Trump has been accused of rape, sexual assault, and sexual harassment, including non-consensual kissing or groping, by at least 25 women since the 1970s. In June 2019, writer E. Jean Carroll alleged in New York magazine that Trump raped her in a department store dressing room in 1995 or 1996. From Wikipedia

Further reading: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/07/donald-trump-rape-language-e-jean-carroll

On his wife, from the NY Times 2015 article. Yes, full of respect for women

Lying prone on a rug adorned with the Great Seal of the United States, the woman who might someday be first lady is wearing high-heeled sandals and a crimson bikini.
The date is February 2000. Donald J. Trump hasn’t yet thrown his hat into the ring as a Reform Party candidate, yet he’s already set in motion a machine that 15 years on will turn a voluble political maverick into the front-runner for the Republican Party presidential nomination.
The woman on the rug is Melania Knauss, a Slovene model, who at 29 is almost a quarter-century younger than her billionaire future husband. The rug is a prop in an Oval Office set mocked up in a Manhattan photo studio. Spread across two pages of the now defunct Talk magazine, Mr. Trump is seen in an inset close up; telescope back from the picture and what you’d see is Mr. Trump seated behind the presidential desk and at his feet his future wife, a woman striking in her beauty and docility.
If it is always the case in politics that you “play a role,” as Ms. Knauss observed in a caption accompanying those photos, you do this because politics is, above all else, “a business.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/fashion/melania-trump-the-silent-partner.html?unlocked_article_code=1.uk4.J8Fx.M9ubIt7IgVVq&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Have a read of Project 2025...that should shed any doubts that he is an advocate for women.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 05/02/2025 22:05

Zebedee999 · 05/02/2025 22:02

This will blow your mind: He has just said he's going to stop men taking part in women's sports.

Yes, he signed a bill preventing trans women from participating in "women's sports. The comments he made were disgusting.

ShapedLikeAPastry · 05/02/2025 22:05

I guarantee that, compared to the average Brit, the average American has no idea what is happening in the UK and doesn't care!

This is not something to be proud of.

Locutus2000 · 05/02/2025 22:03

tarheelbaby · 05/02/2025 21:29

That whole 'most powerful man on the planet' thing is just a line in newspapers to make you panic.

And the same way that life still goes on no matter the politics, that's true for the vast (and it is vast) majority of Americans.

I STILL can't believe how much MN worries about the Americans. I guess, like Razorlight, they can't sleep.

If Brits put half or even a quarter as much effort into their own country as they do worrying about the US, things in the UK could be very different.

After the crazy Brits voted for Brexit, it was a nightmare. Every morning I woke up to a new announcement of doom. Maybe the Brits on this site remember those intense days.

I guarantee that, compared to the average Brit, the average American has no idea what is happening in the UK and doesn't care! If I go to a meeting, there's guaranteed to be a pot-shot at the Americans but I'm sure that if I moved to the US, there'd be no mention of UK politics.

So, stop wasting your time thinking about the US. Take steps to improve your life. As Arthur Ashe said, 'Start where you are and use what you have.' [oh, whoops, he's an American ...]

Alternatively, you could stop policing other people's speech. Just a thought.

Zebedee999 · 05/02/2025 22:02

100A · 05/02/2025 16:51

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

This will blow your mind: He has just said he's going to stop men taking part in women's sports.