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100A · 2025-02-05T16:51:00+00:00

It's like a parallel universe - how did America come to this? So now he plans to ethnically cleanse Gaza we are told - to create the 'Riviera of the Middle East.' A golf course and hotels probably. The £2 million people can just go wherever. Wtf! AIBU to think America is imploding in on itself?

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 12:27

We can all come up with interesting finds with a quick Google search.

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 12:26

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Or that a mosque was set on fire by Israeli extremists just this week.

GouacheEnthusiast · 06/02/2025 12:24

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Humdingerydoo · 06/02/2025 12:23

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/02/2025 12:09

I thought it was rhetorical because I thought you knew the answer yourself. I realise now that you don't know the answer.

Asking questions is not being demanding or odd. It's how we learn.

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No, you learn by researching. So research. Don't expect others to hand-feed you answers that you will then inevitably just dismiss anyway when they don't suit your narrative of choice.

It's no secret that terrorists are being released in exchange for hostages taken from Israel. It's exactly what happened when Gilad Shalit was released as well, and the result of that was October 7th.

Cerial · 06/02/2025 12:22

BTW … as a UK taxpayer, I don’t want to pay to re-build any other country. Nor support the UK subsidizing farmers abroad whilst taxing our own.

I agree UK needs to stop flushing taxpayer £££ out of UK until we sort our own problems with poverty, cost of living, housing, education, disability (not the disability scammers).Add Chagos to the list. WTF?

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 12:20

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I thought it was a very interesting find. Hamas weren't even in power yet and Palestinians were burning and looting Israeli buildings

Notaflippinclue · 06/02/2025 12:19

It won't happen because nobody wants radicalised Palestinians even temporarily

Cerial · 06/02/2025 12:17

ARealitycheck · 06/02/2025 11:06

Again, the actions of some nutters excuses the Israel state of what amounts to war crimes against innocent people?

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It seems to be exactly that!

thank you for your succinct explanation.

GouacheEnthusiast · 06/02/2025 12:17

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 12:15

I did some research and this is what I found from unocha.org. This is directly after Israel left the Gaza strip and a year before Hamas was voted into power

'Palestinian National Security Forces progressively moved into the former settlements throughout Sunday night and into the early hours of this morning. In spite of their presence, synagogues were set ablaze in Netzarim, Kfar Darom and Morag by groups of Palestinians who followed behind the security forces'

Livelovebehappy · 06/02/2025 12:15

ARealitycheck · 06/02/2025 11:00

Yes of course, a group of terrorists, hamas, made the state sponsored Israel terror machine bomb the hell out of people and refuse them water or aid.

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Didn't make them, but by default allowed them to. Do you not think there is any blame or accountability for Hamas on this? Hamas brought on this situation. I'm actually with the Palestinians on how they've been treated for the past 70 years, but 100% on Hamas for the deaths since October 7th. What were they hoping to achieve by kidnapping the Israeli civilians?

Cerial · 06/02/2025 12:14

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 10:57

That's really not how international law works...

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Hamas was obeying some international laws… explain pls, because I’m ignorant of Hamas following the international laws of ??? What, Sharia?

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/02/2025 12:09

Humdingerydoo · 06/02/2025 11:46

You said you thought it was a rhetorical question, yet demanded answers. Quite odd.

Not sensitive, just highly bemused by your posts on here.

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I thought it was rhetorical because I thought you knew the answer yourself. I realise now that you don't know the answer.

Asking questions is not being demanding or odd. It's how we learn.

GouacheEnthusiast · 06/02/2025 11:53

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PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:48

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 11:25

No they did not. You can criticise without lying about it, the small number of water pipes dug up were disfunctional pipes from abandoned Israeli settlements. Whilst they still shouldn't have done that, it's really not what you are attempting to portray.

The real reason the Palestinians don't have running water is because Israel has destroyed almost all essential infrastructure during the course of the war. Now you can blame that on Hamas if you want and absolve Israel of all responsibility (including targeting and bombing the said infrastructure) but please do so with the correct information.

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I'm not the dishonest one here. Prior to the war Gaza was already reliant on Israel for their water, it's nothing to do with what Israel did during the war

Why were there water pipelines running from Israel to Gaza prior to the war if there was existing infrastructure there?

Humdingerydoo · 06/02/2025 11:46

TooBigForMyBoots · 06/02/2025 09:49

No @Humdingerydoo, I don't think there's anything odd or aggressive about asking someone for stats from a poster talking about numbers. I didn't pretend anything, I responded to the conversation I quoted.

You a bit sensitive?

You said you thought it was a rhetorical question, yet demanded answers. Quite odd.

Not sensitive, just highly bemused by your posts on here.

Carezzamia · 06/02/2025 11:38

Cerial · 05/02/2025 22:11

Funny you think Trump would actually invest in Gaza….

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it's the control of oil routes, as always is and was....no further ports apart from Israeli ports will exist. Syria gone. Lebanon gone. Palestinian ports obviously gone. Everything else is just a smoke screen.

GouacheEnthusiast · 06/02/2025 11:37

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ShapedLikeAPastry · 06/02/2025 11:35

He has a lot of respect worldwide

With whom, exactly?

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 11:25

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:12

It wasn't just the greenhouses, they dug up all the water pipes and used the tubes to build rockets

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No they did not. You can criticise without lying about it, the small number of water pipes dug up were disfunctional pipes from abandoned Israeli settlements. Whilst they still shouldn't have done that, it's really not what you are attempting to portray.

The real reason the Palestinians don't have running water is because Israel has destroyed almost all essential infrastructure during the course of the war. Now you can blame that on Hamas if you want and absolve Israel of all responsibility (including targeting and bombing the said infrastructure) but please do so with the correct information.

ARealitycheck · 06/02/2025 11:21

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:15

Where's the Palestinians' agency in all of this? Do you think they don't know or can't do any better?

Maybe they could start by not teaching their kids there's glory in martyrdom and stop their summer camps where kids march around with fake machine guns

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You are obviously determined to see the continuation of murdering innocents on the basis of a small number of people. Shame.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:15

ARealitycheck · 06/02/2025 11:11

Yes children not even born when that happened should suffer for that? Hamas is a terror organisation. They do not represent all Palestinians. Want to stop creating more terrorists, don't terrorise todays children.

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Where's the Palestinians' agency in all of this? Do you think they don't know or can't do any better?

Maybe they could start by not teaching their kids there's glory in martyrdom and stop their summer camps where kids march around with fake machine guns

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:12

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 11:08

But they didn't do this. Dismantling a few greenhouses doesn't equate to destroying the entire water system
Why aren't you questioning why Israel was firing at water tanks?

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It wasn't just the greenhouses, they dug up all the water pipes and used the tubes to build rockets

Ilovemytulips · 06/02/2025 11:12

Anyway I will leave this thread now. It's sad to see such hate on here against the Palestinians.
Peace to all ✌️

ARealitycheck · 06/02/2025 11:11

PollyPaintsFlowers · 06/02/2025 11:08

Again, if Gazans hadn't deliberately destroyed their water system because they thought attacking Israel was more important than fresh water they wouldn't be reliant in a country they hate for fresh water

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Yes children not even born when that happened should suffer for that? Hamas is a terror organisation. They do not represent all Palestinians. Want to stop creating more terrorists, don't terrorise todays children.