To let DD get her eyebrow pierced for her 15th birthday?

What she means is that she’s not capable of seeing a fifteen year old child without making some unpleasant judgements on them, based on their appearance. And because she’s not capable of doing it, she assumes that she’s the default setting and other people will do the same.

@Sparrow7 The fact that you've posted here shows that you're not totally happy,
You're trying to second-guess your instinct as a parent.

I am bringing her up that it is her body, her choice
- but within that she also has to accept that her parents will - and should - make choices for her that she's not yet mature enough to make

For all those saying put my foot down until she is 18, do you actually have teenagers or just toddlers? I'm raising my kids to be able to think for themselves and make their own decisions. It won't be long before they are out in the world on their own. I see my job as they get older is to advise and guide them, but I am not their boss. We have discussions not ultimatums.

There is a very fine line between 'being their boss' and 'issuing ultimatums' and actually being a parent.
You can have discussions and still make the final decision - it's part of your job as a parent.

You're obviously not on board with what they want, so what's wrong with behaving as a parent and saying 'no' ?

Parents can say ' no' and children can rebel - it's how the world works. Children learn by discussion - but also learn by pushing against boundaries.

For all those saying put my foot down until she is 18, do you actually have teenagers or just toddlers?

That is so dismissive when you've actually asked for opinions and advice!

Yes, If they're living under your roof, they live by your rules.

If you're not sure what your rules are, then you should decide what the limits are - because you are the parent, the adult and this is what we do for our teenage children.

It's not an easy decision, but don't ask for advice from strangers that may not back up your own opinions and you're going to just dismiss

Some people will agree with you. Some people will disagree with you.

Sometimes your children will agreee with you. Sometimes they will disagree with you.

If you're not completely happy with something, the answer is always 'no'
( I've found it actually applies to most things in life, not just raising children 🫣)

Purely anecdotally I've known a few people have bad scarring from eyebrow piercings.

Dd had her nose done for her birthday last year, she was 14. I don't see the big deal with it tbh. School aren't bothered:

The middle class snobbery on here is showing

People with lots of piercings aren't often the "trendy" types. They don't get them to "fit in with the current fashion" but to express themselves.

Piercings and tattoos don't make you unemployable, don't mean you can't access better jobs and aren't looked at the way they were 20 years ago. Heck, I started my job 6 years ago and when I started part of getting ready for a shift would involve changing some piercings to "blanks" where the hole would close and taking others out, tattoos had to be covered. Now I have even more and we have staff with facial piercings and tattoos are the norm. It's very customer facing and people love asking about them, wanting to see them better etc.

I wouldn't. My sister had hers done at 15 and it grew out, I assume because she was still growing? Still has a scar at 38

Don't be daft.

I reckon any 15 year old who wants an eyebrow piercing gets one partially because it's trendy.

And my 5 very visible tattoos and my facial piercing haven't put a dent in my career; nobody has ever said a single negative thing about them to me.

I quite like noses! 😆 My DH has a lovely aquiline honker and it's fabulous...definitely not the sort to get a piercing though. Love a nose with character!

I do agree with eyebrow piercings drawing attention to the eyes. There's also the bridge piercing which I think is lovely, especially on women with big eyes!

@GiddyRobin
I've never found nose piercings attractive at all. I find it interesting that many people like them but not brow
Brow piercings bring attention to the eyes. Nose piercings bring attention to the nose. I don't know why that's desirable!

What do you mean by this?

I would say no until she's 18

This.

Why would you even contemplate allowing a child to do this?

Must have changed since Dd had her cartilage pierced, I still had to give permission at 16.
Im fairly relaxed, but any visible,facial piercing would does be a hard no from me.

It would be a hard nope from me. I personally think they're chavvy and just look shit.
She'd have to wait until she can do it without my permission.

I have a small scar from my old eyebrow piercing; I took it out before any signs of migration so it really is only a little mark. I can't say it bothers me at all- I don't wear makeup to cover it and I still love the piercing, I'm so glad I had it for the three years I did. I'd also happily get it done again and likely will in the future!

That's not to say you should allow it at 15, as I wouldn't trust a piercer who would willingly do a facial piercing for anyone under 16. But in case she gets it done the minute she's old enough, I just wanted to reassure you that the scars don't bother everyone. It's just one of the risks of getting a piercing, and as long as she takes it out before it migrates or grows out then it's honestly barely noticeable on most people.

I'd also be wary of any piercing studio that's willing to pierce a 15 year old's eyebrow- I think a reputable place wouldn't

I agree with the above. (I’d have zero issue with it once she’s 16 though.)

Many of us have commented that we wouldn’t agree because (1) we don’t like it and (2) schools wouldn’t tolerate it.

Not a decision I’ve had to make as it’s not something DT’s wanted and was an irrelevant issue due to their school policy

These threads always bring out the worst in people. OP asked for advice not for a bunch of snobs to make derogatory comments about body piercing & tattoos in general. I wonder how many of you would happy pierce the ears of a toddler (always a girl) without a second thought? A lot of us 'chavvy' tattooed & pierced types wouldn't do that..

"chavvy" is class prejudice and hate speak.

And aesthetics are subjective, obviously.

Be a parent.

What about her sports etc? It'd be dangerous

Eyebrow piercings are notorious for migration due to the repeated movements of the face, thus they scar more reliably than other piercings. DH had one for years and now has a very noticeable scar (we are both heavily pierced and tattooed).
Horror stories and photos of scars would not have put me off when I was a teen if my mind was set on it but I would have grumpily compromised in having it done at a legal age in a reputable studio as long as the answer was an eventual yes. She may even change her mind between now and then.

If she can look after it and she’s happy to agree to potential restrictions (taking it out for PE if they suddenly get stricter, college? Jobs? etc) then I’d allow it, but only at a reputable studio at the correct age, not a place willing to pierce minors.

You can't be serious