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Should DH have offered?

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cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:16

long back story condensed into a sentence. I gave up my job, social life, hobbies pretty much everything when our child was born severely disabled and needed constant care. DH was older, earnt way more and wasn’t willing to do it. I made the best. Over the past 4 years (DC are 3 & 5 now) I’ve grown to resent him deeply. He’s a fantastic provider, loyal and dependable but works 70 hours a week and his career is number 1 priority (doctor).

Last night he was due on a night shift and the kids and I got really poorly, I’m talking stinking grotty colds we’ve been coming down with all week but they just ramped up. Disabled DS had been up most of the night before so I was already exhausted on top of poorly. It was really rubbish. Im a plodder and I don’t ask DH to be off work but I’ve stressed to DH that I need him to offer as it makes me feel respected and like I have a safety net. I was crumpled on the sofa last night feeling awful and as he was walking out the door he said ‘at least it’s bedtime’ knowing full well neither child goes to bed or sleeps well when this poorly. I replied ‘you could have at least offered to stay home’ and he just looked at me in disbelief and said ‘that was never an option’ and then left. I rang him on his way to work and reiterated just how unsupported I feel by him and honestly (finances aside) might as well be a single parent. He said I was wrong and unreasonable then stayed silent. (How he deals with all my unhappiness)

Id get it if I were a pee taker but he knows I’d limp through and tell him to go. Should he not at least offer?

OP posts:
Lighterlilly · 05/02/2025 15:31

notwavingbutsinking · 05/02/2025 14:43

I think there is a real misconception here about how much early career doctors actually earn in the NHS. Yes, their family income is going to be considerably higher than the average family with a disabled child (which is something shocking like £17,000 - a whole other thread). And future prospects are good. But right now, on his income alone, they are likely to be far from being able to throw money at the problem in the way that some posters think they should be doing.

Edited

If is is on 6 monthly rotation he’s likely in speciality training, so maybe 45 - 47k a year, which is low for a family of four to live on.

but again if the op chooses to work, then her earnings could pay for a carer depending on how much she earns. It could be this was forced on her as she was a low earner, and with his wage, they just couldn’t afford care.

Miaowzabella · 05/02/2025 15:17

I have some sympathy, but the likelihood of someone dying if a doctor misses a shift at short notice is probably a lot higher than the likelihood of anyone in your household dying from a cold.

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 15:14

AlertCat · 05/02/2025 15:03

Dad wanted them to, apparently. Promised that all would be fine, they’d manage together. Then he faded out to work.

So it seems that no "work plan/jobs rota" was drawn up when this was all arranged? No home help or cover if one or both was ill?

They seem as disorganised as each other.

AlertCat · 05/02/2025 15:03

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 14:55

If what you say is correct then why on earth did they decide to have a second child so soon after the one that was disabled?

Ridiculous.

Dad wanted them to, apparently. Promised that all would be fine, they’d manage together. Then he faded out to work.

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 14:55

notwavingbutsinking · 05/02/2025 14:43

I think there is a real misconception here about how much early career doctors actually earn in the NHS. Yes, their family income is going to be considerably higher than the average family with a disabled child (which is something shocking like £17,000 - a whole other thread). And future prospects are good. But right now, on his income alone, they are likely to be far from being able to throw money at the problem in the way that some posters think they should be doing.

Edited

If what you say is correct then why on earth did they decide to have a second child so soon after the one that was disabled?

Ridiculous.

notwavingbutsinking · 05/02/2025 14:43

I think there is a real misconception here about how much early career doctors actually earn in the NHS. Yes, their family income is going to be considerably higher than the average family with a disabled child (which is something shocking like £17,000 - a whole other thread). And future prospects are good. But right now, on his income alone, they are likely to be far from being able to throw money at the problem in the way that some posters think they should be doing.

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 14:33

Sahara123 · 05/02/2025 14:17

Are you actually kidding ?! Our severely disabled children are still our much loved children, most of us don’t want to send them off into residential care even if it was available and affordable! A year of residential care is probably about the same as a doctor’s salary, many tens of thousands of pounds . So that does leave many parents in an impossible situation, it’s absolutely crap to be honest .

Of course it's a crap situation.

No-one wants to give birth to a disabled child.

But if they arrive then sometimes difficult choices have to be made.

As we don't know the details of the OP's child's disability/ies it isn't possible to say what residential care would cost.
Day care and respite care are also available.

Support is available (both financial and practical) and the OP could start by contacting her Health Visitor or Social worker.

Lighterlilly · 05/02/2025 14:33

Sahara123 · 05/02/2025 13:52

I have 3 children, one severely disabled and yes, my career completely fizzled out. I did do some part time work in a school whilst they were at school but the majority of the care fell to me as we needed my husbands salary to pay the bills . He wasn’t a doctor, but I still don’t remember him taking time off work if I was ill, it just couldn’t happen. Now my child is an adult it just has become so much harder and I have taken early retirement to deal with this.
I always wryly smile when people suggest respite, it’s so hard to come by, and get funding for, and then your child has to get used to going, and not be ill when they’re due to go. We’ve only just found a fantastic respite carer after 34 years! And I still have to fight with the council to get a few funded weeks a year. And then when my young adult goes to respite I get nervous going away in case she gets homesick or ill. It’s a nightmare. I’ve had to accept that my life is going to be different to everyone else’s, and part of that has been accepting that my husband’s career has to move forward in order to support us. However he does and always has done a lot for all the children, and now for our adult offspring. When he was working and I was ill I just had to get on with it.

I’m sorry you had to go through this and you sound a lovely person, genuinely,

I think though, gently no one is saying the op should be able to get funded respite, more she can potentially afford to pay herself for a respite carer, so it’s more they need to find a suitable person, and potentially as he is a doctor, he may know of qualified candidates,

she also has the option of returning to work and helping pay for a carer that way, as she is resentful having to do it, and that’s fair enough.she doesn’t need to any more than her husband does.

funded care, yes it’s a fight and a unicorn, self funded, that’s a different animal. Especially for a doctor.

Mandylovescandy · 05/02/2025 14:24

I think you as a family need a better solution and I agree he should be part of figuring that out. What care options are there for your child? It sounds like you need some respite and help.

Sahara123 · 05/02/2025 14:17

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 09:41

@ragandbonewoman FFS she has a severely disabled child, that’s why she became a stay at home Mum! So yes her life choices were taken away, by necessity not choice. She’s not trying to “have it all” How tone deaf are you?

I'm not 'tone deaf' at all.

There are residential schools for severely disabled children which I'm sure OP could afford on her husband's salary and if she went back to work p/t. She didn't have to be a SAHM - that was her choice.

OP acts as if she has no agency.

Are you actually kidding ?! Our severely disabled children are still our much loved children, most of us don’t want to send them off into residential care even if it was available and affordable! A year of residential care is probably about the same as a doctor’s salary, many tens of thousands of pounds . So that does leave many parents in an impossible situation, it’s absolutely crap to be honest .

StormingNorman · 05/02/2025 14:14

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:37

He’s not ‘working’ the 70 hours but they’ve stuck him at a hospital that’s a 1.5 hour commute each way. He moves every 6 months and we have no control over where he’s sent. It’s hard

I wouldn’t underestimate the tiredness and stress that comes from commuting three hours a day.

That’s not diminish your own tiredness and stress levels from being alone with your DC for so many hours a day, but I think it’s likely you are both just doing whatever it takes to survive at the moment.

Sahara123 · 05/02/2025 13:52

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:29

This is unfair you can say you think I’m being unreasonable (will totally accept that) without being this condemning. How many severely disabled kids do you have that you had to give up your entire life to care for whilst watching your DH’s life carry on without a hitch? If I’m that awful maybe I should just leave him and the kids to be ‘better off without me’ and see how he manages then!

I have 3 children, one severely disabled and yes, my career completely fizzled out. I did do some part time work in a school whilst they were at school but the majority of the care fell to me as we needed my husbands salary to pay the bills . He wasn’t a doctor, but I still don’t remember him taking time off work if I was ill, it just couldn’t happen. Now my child is an adult it just has become so much harder and I have taken early retirement to deal with this.
I always wryly smile when people suggest respite, it’s so hard to come by, and get funding for, and then your child has to get used to going, and not be ill when they’re due to go. We’ve only just found a fantastic respite carer after 34 years! And I still have to fight with the council to get a few funded weeks a year. And then when my young adult goes to respite I get nervous going away in case she gets homesick or ill. It’s a nightmare. I’ve had to accept that my life is going to be different to everyone else’s, and part of that has been accepting that my husband’s career has to move forward in order to support us. However he does and always has done a lot for all the children, and now for our adult offspring. When he was working and I was ill I just had to get on with it.

LCM001a · 05/02/2025 13:34

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:42

I think you’re all right, I’m worn down, lonely and a bit miserable on top of being unwell and he's just being practical but it feels like he doesn’t care. I’ll apologise when he gets home.

Im a good wife. My entire life is him and the kids I wash his clothes, organise his life and even make his lunches I run him a hotel service and I go over and above to show I care so I know he isn’t getting an awful deal on me on the whole. Other dad friends we know seem shocked he gets the deal he does .

I don't necessarily think you owe him an apology for the way you feel, but maybe a calm conversation about how to stop it happening again might be more useful.

Barbarana · 05/02/2025 13:32

Lighterlilly · 05/02/2025 13:30

I agree, this isn’t about her husband, it’s about resentment at being a sahm and feeling like she’s no choice as she said. The thing is she does have a choice.

She absolutely can get specialist carers for during the working day and go back to work. She doesn’t need to do this. No matter how many people scream she does, she’s no option and there is no care available. There is. She simply needs to pay for it and get the right level of qualified person or people. Yes it will cost but her earnings would pay for this in large, if not all, depending on how much she earns.

staying at home is a choice. When you boil it right down. It is a choice.

Absolutely this ^

Lighterlilly · 05/02/2025 13:30

KimFan · 05/02/2025 12:32

Your comment here demonstrates that your issues run much, much deeper than your husband simply not offering to stay home when you and your children are unwell. You need to address your thoughts and resentments with him.

I agree, this isn’t about her husband, it’s about resentment at being a sahm and feeling like she’s no choice as she said. The thing is she does have a choice.

She absolutely can get specialist carers for during the working day and go back to work. She doesn’t need to do this. No matter how many people scream she does, she’s no option and there is no care available. There is. She simply needs to pay for it and get the right level of qualified person or people. Yes it will cost but her earnings would pay for this in large, if not all, depending on how much she earns.

staying at home is a choice. When you boil it right down. It is a choice.

LCM001a · 05/02/2025 13:29

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:16

long back story condensed into a sentence. I gave up my job, social life, hobbies pretty much everything when our child was born severely disabled and needed constant care. DH was older, earnt way more and wasn’t willing to do it. I made the best. Over the past 4 years (DC are 3 & 5 now) I’ve grown to resent him deeply. He’s a fantastic provider, loyal and dependable but works 70 hours a week and his career is number 1 priority (doctor).

Last night he was due on a night shift and the kids and I got really poorly, I’m talking stinking grotty colds we’ve been coming down with all week but they just ramped up. Disabled DS had been up most of the night before so I was already exhausted on top of poorly. It was really rubbish. Im a plodder and I don’t ask DH to be off work but I’ve stressed to DH that I need him to offer as it makes me feel respected and like I have a safety net. I was crumpled on the sofa last night feeling awful and as he was walking out the door he said ‘at least it’s bedtime’ knowing full well neither child goes to bed or sleeps well when this poorly. I replied ‘you could have at least offered to stay home’ and he just looked at me in disbelief and said ‘that was never an option’ and then left. I rang him on his way to work and reiterated just how unsupported I feel by him and honestly (finances aside) might as well be a single parent. He said I was wrong and unreasonable then stayed silent. (How he deals with all my unhappiness)

Id get it if I were a pee taker but he knows I’d limp through and tell him to go. Should he not at least offer?

I don't think you are being unreasonable, you are ill, tired and overwhelmed. Your DH could have at least offered. Yes he is a Dr but even Drs have home lives and commitments outside of the job. Locums can be called, cover can be arranged. They are his children too, and you are his wife, maybe now and then you get to come first.

Truth25 · 05/02/2025 13:27

finances aside) might as well be a single parent

Your live would be x100 worse. There's no finances aside, because he is solely responsible for all of you. If he messes up his job then what? I get that it's hard but can you work out affording some additional home help?

MamaAndSons · 05/02/2025 13:24

Reputationtv · 05/02/2025 12:16

If your child was ill in hospital and there was no doctor to see him, would you be happy hearing it’s because he stayed home cause his kid had a cold?

That is absolutely no concern of the OP. It's the concern of the NHS to make sure they have staff to cover other staff absence.

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 05/02/2025 12:37

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:42

I think you’re all right, I’m worn down, lonely and a bit miserable on top of being unwell and he's just being practical but it feels like he doesn’t care. I’ll apologise when he gets home.

Im a good wife. My entire life is him and the kids I wash his clothes, organise his life and even make his lunches I run him a hotel service and I go over and above to show I care so I know he isn’t getting an awful deal on me on the whole. Other dad friends we know seem shocked he gets the deal he does .

I would HATE this set up and my dh doesnt earn enough which is i dont have it

I would take a long term view both on family life and finances.
In order:

  • Double check you are accessing everything you are entitled to
  • look into some kind of respite care or help for your disabled child
  • work out what would make your life easier day to day and pay for that help (even if it means saving less or a staycation instead of a holiday... id rather have the benefit 50 weeks a year)
  • get and use specialist babysitters regularly so your children are familiar with them. Go on date nights with your DH.
This has 3 benefits.
  1. Reconnect with dh
  2. Time off
  3. It means in a pinch you have someone known to the kids who can maybe come help you out when things like the other night happened.
  • work out what you want long term and start lining things up
  • check your pension credits
Snapplepie · 05/02/2025 12:34

Not quite your situation but my husband does the same job and the rule we have is that he will stay home if I'm vomiting. Otherwise I cope. We just can't justify cancelling a day of patients for anything less than me being completely unable to care for the kids. I understand your perspective, but really don't think you should be asking him to offer something he can't do on the understanding that you'll say no. Better to be clear with him if you need more help/a break on a regular basis and find ways to make that happen and to agree under what circumstances it would be reasonable for him to stay home so that you aren't having to have these conversations when you feel ill and miserable.

KimFan · 05/02/2025 12:32

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:34

To everyone else, fair enough thanks for the feedback. I really didn’t want to be a SAHM and the resentment is strong which is my issue I suppose just feel like all my choices in life got taken away. I love my kids but he seems to want to avoid us at every turn.

I never ask him to be off I push through and I’m very dedicated to ‘he can’t be off’ I get his career is important but the amount of stuff I’ve gone through alone especially with disabled DS because DH was just not there is soul destroying.

Your comment here demonstrates that your issues run much, much deeper than your husband simply not offering to stay home when you and your children are unwell. You need to address your thoughts and resentments with him.

Weepixie · 05/02/2025 12:27

For BillDavey, 😊

All the very best to you and yours also.

Weepixie · 05/02/2025 12:23

would you be happy hearing it’s because he stayed home cause his kid had a cold?

But it wasn’t because the child had a cold. It was a build up of everything that caused the Op to be exhausted and needing help that night. You can’t pick and chose them. They come up on you and one day you just go down.

Remember that there’s more of an iceberg under the water than there is above it.

Polkadotbabushka · 05/02/2025 12:22

cookingthebooks · 05/02/2025 06:16

long back story condensed into a sentence. I gave up my job, social life, hobbies pretty much everything when our child was born severely disabled and needed constant care. DH was older, earnt way more and wasn’t willing to do it. I made the best. Over the past 4 years (DC are 3 & 5 now) I’ve grown to resent him deeply. He’s a fantastic provider, loyal and dependable but works 70 hours a week and his career is number 1 priority (doctor).

Last night he was due on a night shift and the kids and I got really poorly, I’m talking stinking grotty colds we’ve been coming down with all week but they just ramped up. Disabled DS had been up most of the night before so I was already exhausted on top of poorly. It was really rubbish. Im a plodder and I don’t ask DH to be off work but I’ve stressed to DH that I need him to offer as it makes me feel respected and like I have a safety net. I was crumpled on the sofa last night feeling awful and as he was walking out the door he said ‘at least it’s bedtime’ knowing full well neither child goes to bed or sleeps well when this poorly. I replied ‘you could have at least offered to stay home’ and he just looked at me in disbelief and said ‘that was never an option’ and then left. I rang him on his way to work and reiterated just how unsupported I feel by him and honestly (finances aside) might as well be a single parent. He said I was wrong and unreasonable then stayed silent. (How he deals with all my unhappiness)

Id get it if I were a pee taker but he knows I’d limp through and tell him to go. Should he not at least offer?

I get it must be tough but an on call doctor can’t just stay home because you’ve got a cold!

Diomi · 05/02/2025 12:21

Margorett · 05/02/2025 10:56

Maybe swap with him and go to work full time yourself, see which you would prefer. How can you expect him not go into work because you had a cold !

I would love it if OP insisted on doing this. The look on his face would be priceless.

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