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Is he abusive or do I push him?

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Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:13

Hello
Me and BF have been together for 3 years. I dont wish to tell every single detail but I think it is relevant. When I met BF I was married and BF was effectively the other man for 4 months, until I left my xDH. BF suspected I wasnt seperated several times but didnt end things as I convinced him otherwise. He lied about when his ex moved out and when they split but he said that is because I said I wouldnt date anyone who had just split with an ex so he altered dates. I do remember saying this but he shouldnt have lied. For context, they were not together whilst we were, I have messaged his ex and she confirmed this.

However, back to my question. I am 6 months pregnant. We have always spoke about starting a family, living together and one day being married. BF has always been so lovely, gentle and caring. I have never met anyone who puts in more effort. Whether its breakfast in bed to asking about my day and genuinely taking an interest, no matter how boring my day has been.

After I left my xDH, I admit, I probably wasnt in a good place for a relationship. I anaylised everything BF had told me about his past and I used to spend hours and hours searching facebook, asking him questions (from morning to night) and even setting up fake accounts to message his ex. Little by little, I started noticing a change in his temper. He would often tell me that the more I argue with him, the more I damage the relationship. I have stopped all the past questions now. However, I have went snopping a few times around his house to find "past" items and then we have argued when I have found something belonging to an ex. I had stopped all of that and have been seeing a therapist. However, on friday, I went snooping in a drawer. I then saw he had an old watch and a braclet that looked like something he would give another woman. I then made up a lie to ask him about this. Said I was scattering notes around the house for him and found it. He was annoyed with the questions but answered them - it was a watch that he bought a gf 20 years ago and the bracelet he bought his ex wife ten years ago (his ex isnt his ex wife by the way). He then flipped after I asked more questions. He then demanded to see where the love notes where around the house, I then told him there wasnt any, he got angry. He then started saying things like "you havent changed" "You still dont trust" "you have no self control" etc etc. He then said he didnt care if I was in his house or if I went home. I promised him I wouldnt do it again and he said it was just words. He then started getting angry the more I pushed him to talk to me, trust in me again and to talk to me. He shouted and said I had no right telling him what to do and then he said he doesnt trust me at all now.

He then started saying that he is fed up putting in effort when I dont (which is not true). He means he is fed up fixing our issues when I keep doing the same thing over and over again. The last time was in August when he went to the bathroom and I went down his phone. But I am happy I did as that is when I found out when him and his ex really broke up and I always had doubts over that. He kept wanting space and to stop speaking about it but I didnt leave it and he then started shouting at me and shouting in my face.

Last night he agreed to still come out with family. It was a nice evening, not too much chat from him but it was civil. He then slept in the car on the way home. When we got home, he didnt want to cuddle in bed and said he was "too full". When i questioned this he got angry. Said he wanted to sleep, told me he wanted me to go home earlier but I wouldnt. So after shouting and calling me "damaged" he went to sleep. This morning he said "hello" to me. I then said "okay, so you have had your sleep, what is going on with us" and he got immediately angry again. Telling me that there is something wrong with me that I want forgiveness and not do anything for it. He then started shouting in my face when I kept trying to hold his hand and apologise. He said I keep pushing him and he wants a quiet morning before work. I asked him for a time when we could talk and he got angry and said I had no right to demand anything. I then said it feels like you dont want me here, he said he didnt care, and that he doesnt want to speak to me, and he said he doesnt. I then said that I am the only one putting in effort and that I am fighting an uphill battle. He agreed and said he has no fucks left anymore and he wont be putting in effort and it is for me to do to win his trust back, again. he then got up, angrily said I had ruined his whole morning and he was now in a bad mood for work. I then said I would come work in his upstairs office (I have a desk there too but have been working int he livingroom for months, out of choice, it is more cosy) He said no, he didnt want me to work in the same room as him, I said I didnt care and I was going to make him a coffee and come up stairs. He said there wasnt the room, I said I would make room. He then got angry and grabbed me and forced me up the stairs to see the room, and he was right, there was mess everywhere and nowhere for me to work - he then said "here we go again, always think I am lying".

He kept shouting he had a meeting in "5 minuts". I grabbed his hand and apologised and said I had changed and I wouldnt break his trust again. He said he wanted me to go away, I refused and then his alarm went off reminding him his meeting had just started (online). He got angry, shouted that he wanted to be left alone. I said no. He then raised his fist and told me to go away. He didnt hit me but when I said "dont ever threaten me with violence" he said I have pushed him to that as I wont respect his feelings or boundaries. We are now in seperate rooms not talking with him making arsy remarks.

I dont know what to do or how to move on from this.

I am 6 months pregnant and I dont need the hassle.

Please dont say "LTB", please give honest opinions.

Is he abusive or have I pushed him to this?

Thank you

OP posts:
MissUltraViolet · 03/02/2025 11:03

You are pushing him to breaking point then when you get the reaction you want, you cry and play victim like he is the abuser. It's typical of people like you and people can see right through it.

A woman being treated this way by a man would be told to leave, call the police, get help from Womens Aid etc. I pray he has people in his life telling him to seek help for himself and get away from you.

MarkingBad · 03/02/2025 11:02

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:56

I will be speaking to my therapist tonight.
I am thinking that he has reached breaking point. This isnt him.
I am sitting thinking about what to say / do next with these replies in mind.

You apologise and leave. Get help so you can coparent respectfully but you need to be away from any relationship right now. Your behaviour is off the scale and it won't end well if you don't get help now

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 11:02

A few things.
I dont want to be lied and cheated on - like I have done so in the past, so I know how easy it is to do. That is the old me and I am disgusted with that version of myself. In arguments, I hate the thought that he might walk away and I try and get him back by trying to talk and pushing for resolution.

OP posts:
ItGhoul · 03/02/2025 11:02

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:59

I dont know how to make it better. I wish it could be better instantly as I wont do these things again. I want this to be the last time we ever have words about this stuff. I only looked in the drawer to see if there was a birthday card for me. I then saw something that I was curious about the snopping started. I didnt intend on snopping through his things out of distrust. I do trust him.

I wont do these things again

Yes, you will. You know you will.

takealettermsjones · 03/02/2025 11:01

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:59

I dont know how to make it better. I wish it could be better instantly as I wont do these things again. I want this to be the last time we ever have words about this stuff. I only looked in the drawer to see if there was a birthday card for me. I then saw something that I was curious about the snopping started. I didnt intend on snopping through his things out of distrust. I do trust him.

You don't trust him. You need to be honest with yourself if you're actually going to make anything better. You don't trust him, and you will do it again. When you admit it to yourself, you can then admit it to others and actually get some help.

Rosscameasdoody · 03/02/2025 11:01

So your initial relationship was based on lies and mistrust - on both sides. He was the OM and you lied to him about it, and he lied to you about dates regarding his ex moving out. You’re snooping through his personal life and his personal effects. What are you actually looking for ? Because whatever you find isn’t going to solve this. You don’t trust him - you’ve been a cheat yourself so you know how it’s done, and you know he’s lied to you in the past. OP this is insurmountable. You’d be better calling it a day and leaving, rather than bring a child into what is basically a toxic environment.

Butchyrestingface · 03/02/2025 11:00

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:59

I dont know how to make it better. I wish it could be better instantly as I wont do these things again. I want this to be the last time we ever have words about this stuff. I only looked in the drawer to see if there was a birthday card for me. I then saw something that I was curious about the snopping started. I didnt intend on snopping through his things out of distrust. I do trust him.

So if you DO trust him why do you keep doing these things? Do you just enjoy abusing people for the lolz? (some people do).

Meecrowahvey · 03/02/2025 11:00

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:56

I will be speaking to my therapist tonight.
I am thinking that he has reached breaking point. This isnt him.
I am sitting thinking about what to say / do next with these replies in mind.

Good. I'm sure your therapist will have a duty to report your abusive behaviour to police and social services.

DaisyChain505 · 03/02/2025 11:00

What an absolute shit show.

End the relationship, get yourself some therapy and grow the F up.

ItGhoul · 03/02/2025 10:59

Please dont say "LTB", please give honest opinions

My honest opinion is that this is a very, very dysfunctional relationship that needs to end now. The entire relationship is founded on lies, for a start, and you sound very emotionally volatile and extremely hard work. Of course he shouldn't be threatening you, but I think if someone was grabbing my hand during an argument and wouldn't leave me alone, I might be inclined to raise my hand too. I wouldn't ever actually hit anyone, but in the circumstances you describe I would certainly be extremely angry and I can imagine myself clenching a fist - and I'm speaking as a former victim of domestic violence.

I do think think you should end your relationship, for both your sakes. It sounds incredibly unhealthy and you are not making each other happy. You both have trust issues (and I can absolutely see why he might not trust you, frankly) and you both sound messed up and the whole thing is a fucking mess.

You need some serious help with your behaviour.

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:59

I dont know how to make it better. I wish it could be better instantly as I wont do these things again. I want this to be the last time we ever have words about this stuff. I only looked in the drawer to see if there was a birthday card for me. I then saw something that I was curious about the snopping started. I didnt intend on snopping through his things out of distrust. I do trust him.

OP posts:
FamilyPhoto · 03/02/2025 10:59

@Uusallypositive do you have EUPD by any chance ?

Whatabouthow · 03/02/2025 10:57

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:29

I only wonder if he is abusve as I have been crying and asking for forgiveness and he has been shouting in my face (literally) and banging / hitting things around me.

Why should he forgive you? He has time and time again and you pull the same shit over and over. He deserves better.

Qwerty21 · 03/02/2025 10:57

My lord I can't actually believe what I've read. You're an utter madwoman who is abusive and you're really trying to blame him? This has to be a troll post surely

Whatabouthow · 03/02/2025 10:56

You are the problem here, not him.

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:56

I will be speaking to my therapist tonight.
I am thinking that he has reached breaking point. This isnt him.
I am sitting thinking about what to say / do next with these replies in mind.

OP posts:
takealettermsjones · 03/02/2025 10:55

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:54

This isnt important but the two previous threads that ops have referred to are not me. I am not lying about that. I only wanted to see links so I can read replies as the replies here are helping me.

How are they helping you OP? What do you plan to do now?

Uusallypositive · 03/02/2025 10:54

takealettermsjones · 03/02/2025 10:51

Most likely because of the baby 😞

This isnt important but the two previous threads that ops have referred to are not me. I am not lying about that. I only wanted to see links so I can read replies as the replies here are helping me.

OP posts:
PhyllisWallet · 03/02/2025 10:54

Meecrowahvey · 03/02/2025 10:46

Wait, you've posted similar before haven't you? There was one about an incident in a car, another one was at home.

Well it does sound like a car crash I guess

BringOnFebBankHoliday · 03/02/2025 10:53

Notchangingnameagain · 03/02/2025 10:46

You are abusing this man.

You are tormenting this man. You are gaslighted this man.

You cheated on this man. You make up scenario's to catch this man out.

He needs to walk away from you.

You seem to be trying to change the narrative to be the victim. You are not a victim you are an abuser.

This 💯 %
You pushed him to breaking point, and now he broke you are making out it's all his fault.

Idontjetwashthefucker · 03/02/2025 10:53

@tatakealettermsjones true. Poor kid

FamilyPhoto · 03/02/2025 10:52

Jesus Christ, leave the bloke alone .

justkeepswimmng · 03/02/2025 10:52

Your are Tormenting him daily OP, how long did you think it would take before he snapped?

And it sounds like he did snap, for good reason.

You are continually damaging him, and i think you know this because you have been honest in your post.

It is NOT ABUSE when you've continually tormented, provoked and damaged someone and they lash out.

I urge you to continue with therapy as this is not the type of mother any child needs.

Anon1274 · 03/02/2025 10:52

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takealettermsjones · 03/02/2025 10:51

Idontjetwashthefucker · 03/02/2025 10:50

Lol, it was SO you.

He doesn't deserve this, I'm actually amazed he's still there

Most likely because of the baby 😞

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