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Fatphobia

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GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 09:56

My Instagram algorithm keeps showing me “plus sized travel” etc clips saying things like it’s not my body that’s wrong it’s the airlines whose seats are too small, claiming this is an example of fatphobia.

Mostly Americans so we are talking about people who are severely obese, not just slightly heavier than they should be (like me!).

Im not looking to judge, I get that this a complex issue but AIBU to think this is such a dangerous mentality?

It’s the same as Iif there was a pro smoking or pro sunbathing without suncream movement is it not?

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LindorDoubleChoc · 03/02/2025 18:37

I'm very conflicted on this whole subject. I think in the end that people are either misguided or goady to celebrate their morbid obesity. I think most (but by no means all) people find the sight of loads of body fat pretty unpleasant so super obese models in underwear or bodycon outfits just annoy me because I know they are being deliberately provocative.

There is an influencer I see quite often (Tiffany as in Tiff and Carrie) who has recently lost 100lb to go from just over 400lb to just over 300lb. She is posting about how her goal is to get below 275lb. I just can't fathom this as 275lb is at least 100lb more than I weigh and I am very unhappy at my weight
and acutely aware of the many health issues I'm facing! I am classified as obese on the BMI chart as I am short like Tiffany. I don't wear skirts or short sleeved tops or anything remotely revealing and feel extremely self conscious in swimwear. So how can someone have a weight of 100lb more than me as a goal?

GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 18:22

Newtrix · 03/02/2025 18:10

The poster is obviously out for a fight for what ever ridiculous reason he or she has and can't seem to believe that what she thinks isn't true or that others can have an opinion. Gutsy in the username is really ironic... I bet you're one of those people who say "I don't mean to be rude but..." and then insult someone!

85% of votes so far agree with me and so do most of the replies. Not looking for a fight at all but when someone replies with (false) outrage and aggression I’m not supposed to respond?

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HebeHerbivore · 03/02/2025 18:20

Ontobetterthings · 03/02/2025 17:55

Couldn't agree more. There will be the eat less and move more trotted out shortly.

Barring medical reasons, it’s literally that simple (although I realise it is hard to do so).

HebeHerbivore · 03/02/2025 18:17

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 17:32

You simply telling me something doesn’t make it true. I noticed you didn’t answer my question as to whether or not you were suggesting there was something wrong with my mental health… you said I didn’t sound sane, that’s quite a statement … again… are you implying there is something wrong with my mental health?

You’re very aggressive, OP hit an nerve?

What pisses me off is I have to weigh my bloody luggage so it doesn’t go over the weight limit but any morbidly obese person can get on the flight and they weigh twice as much as me plus my luggage. It’s not fat phobia but it is bloody unfair.

Newtrix · 03/02/2025 18:10

GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 17:45

It’s not just me, others have too, you just want to pick a fight. I’m done talking to you now.

The poster is obviously out for a fight for what ever ridiculous reason he or she has and can't seem to believe that what she thinks isn't true or that others can have an opinion. Gutsy in the username is really ironic... I bet you're one of those people who say "I don't mean to be rude but..." and then insult someone!

Dasmeespresso · 03/02/2025 17:58

iamnotalemon · 03/02/2025 15:03

@coxesorangepippin

Respectfully, how does it affect you?

It does if you're squashed into a plane seat as someone is spilling over into yours to be fair.

Ontobetterthings · 03/02/2025 17:55

ExtraOnions · 03/02/2025 10:27

Hurray .. another thread to make comments, assumptions, and judgments on other women’s bodies.

Fat-Bashing threads are a constant on MN… and to be honest, pretty boring. (and don’t claim that this isn’t a “fat bashing” thread, of course it is)

it will be filled with people telling us to eat fewer calories, and exercise … but don’t use injections to lose weight it’s cheating.

…and how long until someone tells us what a drain we are on the NHS.

Boring

Couldn't agree more. There will be the eat less and move more trotted out shortly.

GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 17:45

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 17:32

You simply telling me something doesn’t make it true. I noticed you didn’t answer my question as to whether or not you were suggesting there was something wrong with my mental health… you said I didn’t sound sane, that’s quite a statement … again… are you implying there is something wrong with my mental health?

It’s not just me, others have too, you just want to pick a fight. I’m done talking to you now.

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Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 17:32

GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 15:09

Nothing was implied, not intended to be a goady thread. Other more sensible people don’t agree with your interpretation either. You’ve chosen to put your own spin on it in an attempt to display some faux outrage.

You simply telling me something doesn’t make it true. I noticed you didn’t answer my question as to whether or not you were suggesting there was something wrong with my mental health… you said I didn’t sound sane, that’s quite a statement … again… are you implying there is something wrong with my mental health?

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 03/02/2025 15:23

MyUmberSeal · 03/02/2025 15:12

Jesus, you’ve added 2 and 2 and got 547 there.

And very possibly put people off asking advice, since this poster has used words like 'stupid' and 'uneducated'.

Literally no-one else made an insulting connection like that.

MyUmberSeal · 03/02/2025 15:12

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 11:12

Are you actually joking? You think there’s a knowledge gap there? That some people just don’t know? Wow! Seriously. So you think fat people are stupid? Uneducated? I literally cannot believe I just read that. You think there’s a knowledge gap there? Fuck me.

I’m gong to have to pretend this thread doesn’t exist for my own sanity.

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Jesus, you’ve added 2 and 2 and got 547 there.

GutsyShark · 03/02/2025 15:09

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 14:43

No… I wasn’t. They were strongly implied. The whole thread is goady. It’s not hard to see. Unless you chose not to.

Nothing was implied, not intended to be a goady thread. Other more sensible people don’t agree with your interpretation either. You’ve chosen to put your own spin on it in an attempt to display some faux outrage.

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chocolatemademefat · 03/02/2025 15:08

I was very overweight and believed I was healthy - and for a while I was. Then I got older and life got difficult due to my weight. My knees and hips hurt, I was tired all the time and I had problems with type 2 diabetes. High blood pressure and a ruptured gall bladder.

years of eating the wrong things led me to pay £12000 for a gastric sleeve and now I can finally say I’m much healthier. It’s fine to be happy with the body you’re in - it’s not sensible to kid yourself that things won’t go wrong. Even now it’s unlikely I’ll ever be able to eat normal amounts of food again but I know I’m much happier now.

iamnotalemon · 03/02/2025 15:03

coxesorangepippin · 03/02/2025 14:57

No matter which way you cut it, being morbidly obese is unhealthy

@coxesorangepippin

Respectfully, how does it affect you?

iamnotalemon · 03/02/2025 15:01

ohnocarlben · 03/02/2025 14:51

Being shitty to and about overweight people really is one of the few biases completely accepted still - some people love to run with it.
I tell my kids that anyone who needs to make themselves feel better by criticising someone’s else’s looks or physical appearance should be pitied more than the people they’re attempting to belittle.
Happy & self confident people don’t do that.

@ohnocarlben

I totally agree.

I guess some people just like to feel superior and weight is one way they can do it.

coxesorangepippin · 03/02/2025 14:57

it will be filled with people telling us to eat fewer calories, and exercise … but don’t use injections to lose weight it’s cheating.

…and how long until someone tells us what a drain we are on the NH

^

But if someone mentions they have a salad for lunch then all bets are off?? Slim shaming

coxesorangepippin · 03/02/2025 14:57

No matter which way you cut it, being morbidly obese is unhealthy

VoodooRajin · 03/02/2025 14:54

ExtraOnions · 03/02/2025 10:27

Hurray .. another thread to make comments, assumptions, and judgments on other women’s bodies.

Fat-Bashing threads are a constant on MN… and to be honest, pretty boring. (and don’t claim that this isn’t a “fat bashing” thread, of course it is)

it will be filled with people telling us to eat fewer calories, and exercise … but don’t use injections to lose weight it’s cheating.

…and how long until someone tells us what a drain we are on the NHS.

Boring

Gender was not mentioned

ohnocarlben · 03/02/2025 14:54

‘As for the plane issue I think they should put a weight limit on the seats. If you go over you should have to purchase another’

’Comfort seats’ should be one the norm but airlines don’t always give the option or will sell 2 seats but then fill one anyway.
I’m sure there are people who would buy 2 seats if they could but it’s not an option most of the time.

ohnocarlben · 03/02/2025 14:51

Being shitty to and about overweight people really is one of the few biases completely accepted still - some people love to run with it.
I tell my kids that anyone who needs to make themselves feel better by criticising someone’s else’s looks or physical appearance should be pitied more than the people they’re attempting to belittle.
Happy & self confident people don’t do that.

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 14:43

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 03/02/2025 12:23

No, those insults came straight from you.

They certainly weren't implied by the OP.

the fact that healthy food is expensive (although I think there is a knowledge and skills gap here, you can eat healthy on a budget but some people don’t know how).

Some people absolutely don't know how, and YOU were the one who leapt to 'Stupid' and 'Uneducated'.

No… I wasn’t. They were strongly implied. The whole thread is goady. It’s not hard to see. Unless you chose not to.

Unpaidviewer · 03/02/2025 12:52

I agree that normalising obesity is an issue. I was obese and unhealthy. I was "only" a size 18 and when I walked around our local town I didn't feel that big. I would say i was pretty average.

I lost some weight, was a size 14 and went to Asia for a while. I felt so embarrassed. None of the clothing shops I visited had anything that would have fit me. Everyone was far smaller than me. I lost weight and continued to do so once I came home.

As for the plane issue I think they should put a weight limit on the seats. If you go over you should have to purchase another. I've seen multiple threads on here where someone is a size 20+ and all the posters say it will be fine, and you might just need a seat belt extender. But I doubt they would be happy if another person was spilling over onto their seat.

Babybaby2025 · 03/02/2025 12:24

Most people i know who are overweight/obese know that

fat, sugar, refined carbs = unhealthy
Fruit, veg, complex carbs = healthy
Calorie surplus = weight gain
Calorie deficit = weight loss.

Their difficulty is adherence for an abundance of reasons

Yes people seek advice about healthy meal prep, getting ideas for healthy and quick meals to try. But that's not an uneducated person educating themselves, they know what they need to do, they are asking on guidance on ways to execute it, as its likely theyve tried and failed before. No one comes out of those threads thinking 'wow I never knew i could have a healthy chicken stir fry for dinner' or 'omg who knew i could have an apple as a snack as opposed to a bag of crisps ' they might just be more inspired to explore recipes that are outside their norm and break their current bad habits.

SaffronsMadAboutMe · 03/02/2025 12:23

Iloveyoubut · 03/02/2025 12:13

There are… some. But that wasn’t what was being implied. Lazy and stupid were being implied. I 100% agree with your post.

No, those insults came straight from you.

They certainly weren't implied by the OP.

the fact that healthy food is expensive (although I think there is a knowledge and skills gap here, you can eat healthy on a budget but some people don’t know how).

Some people absolutely don't know how, and YOU were the one who leapt to 'Stupid' and 'Uneducated'.

ArtTheClown · 03/02/2025 12:20

She means heavier regular riders. People who have ridden for years but then put on some weight will ride lighter than a raw beginner would, as they know how to work with the horse and keep their weight off their horse during higher impact activities. Beginners are usually unbalanced and a dead weight.

Thank you, you phrased that far more clearly than I did, but yes that is what I meant!

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