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Friend being strange with me now she's researched my financial situation

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theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 21:51

This situation first arose a couple of months ago and I still don't know how I feel about it. I've name changed in case anyone I know guesses It's me as I can't really tell the story without some outing details.

We're friends as part of a group-'Sally' and I haven't ever been the closest but we've always got along absolutely fine and have had some good times together as part of a group.

I am a landlord-a small scale one. I own 3 properties with a business partner, a home I live in (mortgaged) and another residential property which an ex lives in and owns 50% of-I rent out the spare room in that (that I used to be in) to a friend. Of the latter property, I don't' get rent as such-friend just pays the mortgage for me.

None of the properties are particularly big or in expensive areas, one is a three bed the others are small two beds.

Sally messaged me (not unusual, she messages me sometimes) and said that she'd looked online (assume rightmove or somewhere) and worked out how much each of my houses were worth and so she knows how much I am worth. My first question was 'well why've you done that?!' and she said she was working out how much she was 'worth' and decided to do mine too. She has also (alarmingly, I think) looked at some of my more expensive clothes and added this to my 'worth' too. She said in part to this conversation 'What's (dog's name) cost as well?!'

(FWIW my dog is a mutt and not worth anything in terms of monetary means).

She told me the amount she'd concluded and since then she's been acting strange. We met up for a boozy lunch one weekend and toward the end someone said they were getting another glass of wine and I said 'Hm, not sure if I fancy another one too' to which 'Sally' said 'Get one, you can afford it, moneybags!'

Another time I was out walking my dog and bumped into her and I had scruffy clothes on as it was cold and wet and she said 'You shouldn't be wearing that bobbly jumper with all you money!' or something.

I have another couple of examples-It's odd and making me feel uncomfortable.

I am a single woman, I don't earn a lot of money in my job, I don't buy expensive things, simple lifestyle, no holidays or huge purchases, old car-I definitely do not see myself as ANYTHING like wealthy or rich or such. It isn't as if I can just withdraw a couple of £100 from a house to treat myself. I've been quite unlucky in terms of relationships and jobs, just broke up with someone so I am feeling quite down and lonely- and the fact I've got a couple of houses give me a safe feeling, but I don't see myself as 'moneybags' or successful or anything of the sort. I also find it really weird that she's essentially rummaged about in my situation like that, who could be bothered? It's nosy and intrusive IMO?

I don't know what to think. I havent' told anyone I know about this and I also would like some examples of what I should say to her if she says anything else which I am sure she is going to!

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Thevinegardiaries · 03/02/2025 00:07

Anewyearanewday · 03/02/2025 00:05

I mean this kindly but please read the thread and reflect on the replies e.g. stalker, creepy, envious - as these apply to you as well.

What you are doing is incredibly intrusive and you aren't benefitting in any way at allfrom it. What you have written makes your life seem so sad and empty. Make your life busy so you have less time to ponder over other people's lives. Your nosiness or desire to embarrass people stems from something lacking in your own life. You could do useful things with all this empty time like volunteering, helping with soup kitchens, charity shops, hospital visits. You would enrich your life and find it rewarding. It might also make you grateful for what you have instead of focussing on what others have.

I'm signing up to deliver meals-on-wheels as I type.

MeTooOverHere · 03/02/2025 00:05

Anewyearanewday · 02/02/2025 22:39

This.

Digging for your personal financial information has knocked her off her superior perch.

I wouldn't stay friends with her although if you have mutual friends in common, then it isn't easy to cut her off. I wouldn't get into a conversation with her but every other time, she makes a quip, then state in a firm voice that you do not appreciate her looking into your personal financial records (especially when she has missed a few of your properties :))

Seriously though Sally is obviously not happy with her lot in life.

I hope your properties fund your retirement and give you an easier life. Its very hard to be on your own when you are older. Hopefully when the properties become mortgage free they will fund an early retirement in a sunny climate for you. Wishing you the best OP.

your properties fund your retirement and give you an easier life. Its very hard to be on your own when you are older. Hopefully when the properties become mortgage free they will fund an early retirement in a sunny climate for you.
All true and worked for me.

Anewyearanewday · 03/02/2025 00:05

Thevinegardiaries · 02/02/2025 23:34

£7 to land registry and she would know. Not that I've done that. Lately.

I mean this kindly but please read the thread and reflect on the replies e.g. stalker, creepy, envious - as these apply to you as well.

What you are doing is incredibly intrusive and you aren't benefitting in any way at allfrom it. What you have written makes your life seem so sad and empty. Make your life busy so you have less time to ponder over other people's lives. Your nosiness or desire to embarrass people stems from something lacking in your own life. You could do useful things with all this empty time like volunteering, helping with soup kitchens, charity shops, hospital visits. You would enrich your life and find it rewarding. It might also make you grateful for what you have instead of focussing on what others have.

Embarrassinglyuseless · 03/02/2025 00:04

This is absolutely bat shit of her.

I’ll be honest - there have been times when I’ve been to a friends really nice new house and I might look up the sold price privately - because I’m a bit envious and I would like one like it - but even that feels a bit dirty be intrusive.

To research someone’s total net worth and then to disclose that you have done that to them is unhinged. I would firmly distance yourself from them. I suspect that someone who has done this is sufficiently disconnected from socially normal behaviour that it’s not worth a conversation about it…

MajorCarolDanvers · 02/02/2025 23:50

It’s very creepy. I would distance yourself.

JustSawJohnny · 02/02/2025 23:49

Agree that she's just jealous BUT I do think it's incredibly weird and intrusive of her to look into the finances of others.

MASSIVE overstep.

I'd be telling her to back off and keep her snout out.

Lozzq · 02/02/2025 23:44

This is such an uncomfortable thing to do, I would be so weirded out. My suggestion is next time she says an odd comment, look at her strangely and ask her to repeat it, then let a really uncomfortable awkward silence hang. Make it really uncomfortable for her and look extremely confused and bewildered. She won’t do it again.

Emma6cat · 02/02/2025 23:40

Why are you even bothering with her. Tell her what she did is odd behaviour and its making you question your friendship. Then tell the group you are backing off a bit and the reason why. She is jealous and wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.....

Thevinegardiaries · 02/02/2025 23:34

Pat888 · 02/02/2025 23:32

Do you have mortgages on the properties ? Does she know if you do /don’t have mortgages on them surely you could just say the bank owns most of them.

£7 to land registry and she would know. Not that I've done that. Lately.

Stephenra · 02/02/2025 23:33

To get to the heart of the matter, I see the seeds of a very damaging codependency here. And it's only a matter of time before the requests (read 'demands') for loans start floating in. I use the word 'loan' very loosely here. Disconnect. Block.

Ger1atricMillennial · 02/02/2025 23:33

Bit weird to be honest. The boundaries are a bit too pourous with this one. I would look but I wouldn't tell the person I have looked, bit creepy.

Pat888 · 02/02/2025 23:32

Do you have mortgages on the properties ? Does she know if you do /don’t have mortgages on them surely you could just say the bank owns most of them.

Thevinegardiaries · 02/02/2025 23:29

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:19

This post is so interesting!
I tend to be someone people tell things to, I have noticed that-I've had to do that 'act surprised' thing a few times! Any local scandal or fallouts/break up details and I am often seemingly the first to know details for some reason!I don't gossip though, then folk gossip to ME and I have to be all 'Oh really!?!'

I console myself by saying I am only nosy in isolation. I do not ask people their business, and I do not share what I know either. In fact I often wonder where my desire to find things out comes from, I suppose in some cases (all actually) it's to try and confirm or deny things that have been told to me by that person, so as to try and work out if they're genuine or not. I'm not sure how that pans-out when the person in question was someone I worked with 23 years ago, but hey, I'm just checking.

The only time I ever divulge information I have been told is when it is something someone told me about themselves years earlier. I have a great memory for detail, it seems. I love bumping into people decades later and shoe-horning in something they told me when we were both much younger. I like to give them the context of where & when it was that they told me, lest they think I had been told by someone else. I know I shouldn't but I do like seeing them cringe at them wondering what else I remember them saying...it has its downsides - I go through life wondering if everyone who knows me remembers the minute detail of every time I made a complete arse of myself or overshared something.

BarneyRonson · 02/02/2025 23:27

She’s a bit strange. To give her the benefit of the doubt I’d just say something like”I hope you are going to stop mentioning money to me now, it’s becoming a recurring theme and getting weird!” But I would tell everyone in the group what she has done. No reason to hide it, possibly better that it is commonly known.

Duckingella · 02/02/2025 23:25

Is she trying to pull some sort of saltburn situation?

It's probably not wise to picture her dancing around one of the living rooms naked to murder on the dance floor though.

Seriously though it's unhinged and abit stalkerish;I'd be given her a very wide berth and avoiding her unless it's in a social situation where you've both been invited.

Anewyearanewday · 02/02/2025 23:24

Paperthin · 02/02/2025 23:16

She is jealous of you.
You have what she wants maybe?

Independence, a good circle of friends, a successful job, some buy to let properties, freedom … and a lovely dog.

This has hit the nail on the head.

OP when you are feeling down, remember that other people are very very envious of your life.

Stop being hard on yourself and appreciate the successes you have made. Make sure that when you reach seventy, you can look back at this time of your life and know that you made the most of the hand you were dealt.

Sneezeless · 02/02/2025 23:21

I was always brought up to believe that it is crass to talk about money. One of my husband's friends is a self made millionaire but we never ever discuss our incomes.

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:21

I am going to bed shortly but thank you for all the replies and for being kind, everyone. This situation is just one I was very confused about how to navigate, totally a new one for me. Appreciate all the kind words too.

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theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:19

Thevinegardiaries · 02/02/2025 23:08

Well this is the thing. It's having the nerve (or the cheek or whatever it is) to mention it that I find incredulous. I mean, HTF does one even bring this up without having to admit to snooping?

As I said further up the thread, I snoop. I could give lessons on where to find information, how to interpret it, and what to cross-reference it against. I snoop because ( A ) I am very nosy, and ( B ) the internet provides a great number of opportunities to indulge this hobby. Prior to the last 15 years all I could do was speculate.

But even then - as now- I kept it all to myself. I remember years ago someone telling me they'd known me long enough to tell me something hugely personal about their family, and oh how I had to act totally surprised by this revelation, when all I was thinking was "Oh blimey, Mrs so-and-so already told me this years ago, just act surprised, FFS ACT SURPRISED!". So much so, I have totally blanked-out what said revelation was, only that I had to make out it was all new to me.

Even when people are parading their lifestyles in the real world and with photographs on social media for those who may have missed the live event, I would never tell them that I knew it must all be racked up as a mountain of debt because there's no way they earn enough to afford it or have any hope of paying off their mortgage at their age now that they've just moved house to somewhere £300K more, not that I looked. I just wouldn't.

This post is so interesting!
I tend to be someone people tell things to, I have noticed that-I've had to do that 'act surprised' thing a few times! Any local scandal or fallouts/break up details and I am often seemingly the first to know details for some reason!I don't gossip though, then folk gossip to ME and I have to be all 'Oh really!?!'

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theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:18

Paperthin · 02/02/2025 23:16

She is jealous of you.
You have what she wants maybe?

Independence, a good circle of friends, a successful job, some buy to let properties, freedom … and a lovely dog.

IT's very easy to focus on what we don't have isn't it. This thread has reminded me to do less of that, especially as I'm not feeling great about where I am, so thank you!

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theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:17

I have a friend with a corgi!

I guess me and my friends in this particular group cannot be too vastly apart in terms of disposable income at least, we agree on which restaurant to meet up in or activity to do often, nobody ever says 'That place is too grotty or 'too expensive for me' so there's that. But other than that thought I've never even thought about how much anyone earns or how well off they are.

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Paperthin · 02/02/2025 23:16

She is jealous of you.
You have what she wants maybe?

Independence, a good circle of friends, a successful job, some buy to let properties, freedom … and a lovely dog.

Couldbysunny · 02/02/2025 23:16

Never met anyone in my life who has 'researched what I'm worth'. She sounds completely unhinged. I'd avoid her from now on.

IzzyHandsIsMySpiritAnimal · 02/02/2025 23:15

WTAF?
I have never in my life checked out anyone's "worth" or based friendship expectations on it. One of my friends lives in a rental property, another has just sold a property for £1.1m. Our friendships are based on common interests, stimulating conversation, and having children at the same school.
I can't think of much that is more shallow than evaluating someone like this 'friend' has done.

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 23:11

Redtrainyellowcarriage · 02/02/2025 22:35

I'm also amazed that nobody has blamed you @theidiotswind mumsnet hates landlords usually!

I did consider that and am very grateful that it isn't gone that way.

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