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Friend being strange with me now she's researched my financial situation

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theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 21:51

This situation first arose a couple of months ago and I still don't know how I feel about it. I've name changed in case anyone I know guesses It's me as I can't really tell the story without some outing details.

We're friends as part of a group-'Sally' and I haven't ever been the closest but we've always got along absolutely fine and have had some good times together as part of a group.

I am a landlord-a small scale one. I own 3 properties with a business partner, a home I live in (mortgaged) and another residential property which an ex lives in and owns 50% of-I rent out the spare room in that (that I used to be in) to a friend. Of the latter property, I don't' get rent as such-friend just pays the mortgage for me.

None of the properties are particularly big or in expensive areas, one is a three bed the others are small two beds.

Sally messaged me (not unusual, she messages me sometimes) and said that she'd looked online (assume rightmove or somewhere) and worked out how much each of my houses were worth and so she knows how much I am worth. My first question was 'well why've you done that?!' and she said she was working out how much she was 'worth' and decided to do mine too. She has also (alarmingly, I think) looked at some of my more expensive clothes and added this to my 'worth' too. She said in part to this conversation 'What's (dog's name) cost as well?!'

(FWIW my dog is a mutt and not worth anything in terms of monetary means).

She told me the amount she'd concluded and since then she's been acting strange. We met up for a boozy lunch one weekend and toward the end someone said they were getting another glass of wine and I said 'Hm, not sure if I fancy another one too' to which 'Sally' said 'Get one, you can afford it, moneybags!'

Another time I was out walking my dog and bumped into her and I had scruffy clothes on as it was cold and wet and she said 'You shouldn't be wearing that bobbly jumper with all you money!' or something.

I have another couple of examples-It's odd and making me feel uncomfortable.

I am a single woman, I don't earn a lot of money in my job, I don't buy expensive things, simple lifestyle, no holidays or huge purchases, old car-I definitely do not see myself as ANYTHING like wealthy or rich or such. It isn't as if I can just withdraw a couple of £100 from a house to treat myself. I've been quite unlucky in terms of relationships and jobs, just broke up with someone so I am feeling quite down and lonely- and the fact I've got a couple of houses give me a safe feeling, but I don't see myself as 'moneybags' or successful or anything of the sort. I also find it really weird that she's essentially rummaged about in my situation like that, who could be bothered? It's nosy and intrusive IMO?

I don't know what to think. I havent' told anyone I know about this and I also would like some examples of what I should say to her if she says anything else which I am sure she is going to!

OP posts:
Sofakingfunny · 03/02/2025 20:07

Here’s a few responses you can use, she seems unhinged to me, maybe jealous. Friendships should be respectful not judgmental and invasive.

Sally, im not sure why my finances are such a point of interest for you, but id rather not discuss them. Can we change the subject?

I dress and spend according to my priorities, and im happy with that. Lets talk about something else.

ive noticed you have made quite a few comments about my money situation lately. Is there something youre trying to say? Because its making me uncomfortable.

it felt invasive when you looked up my property values and started adding up my worth. That kind of scrutiny isnt something Im comfortable with in our friendship.

Why has this become such a big deal for you? It feels like its changed how you see me.

LalaPaloosa2024 · 03/02/2025 19:54

How about “I’m so embarrassed for you. Why would you say/do/tell me that?” and look incredulous.

Its never occurred to me to stalk someone else and find out their financial situation. If I did do it, I’d be too embarrassed to tell anyone, let alone the person I did it to. This woman should be ashamed.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 03/02/2025 19:54

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 21:59

I don't like it either.Someone in the local pub who I have a casual chat with sometimes asked me how much I earned recently and I found it really rude, none of their business! Maybe that's me being embarrassed that I didn't make more of a success of myself though.

No it is rude OP. I would say steer very clear of the pair of them! It has absolutely bugger all to do with them and you should tell them as much. I'd be really angry if someone had done all that nosey parkering about me. Your worth as a human being is 100% unrelated to your assets. You seem like a lovely person and the fact these people are making you doubt your life choices is really unfair. Bin them off.

ConstanceM · 03/02/2025 18:56

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 22:03

I Really really hope not, I don't know how that would pan out

Easy, you just say No. She's a vampirical psycho. To even spend a moment analysing someone else's wealth is weird but to tell them and be aggressive with it is so so toxic. You cannot have anything to do with this person going forward. Her behaviour is not normal.

Bobbybooo · 03/02/2025 18:53

theidiotswind · 02/02/2025 21:51

This situation first arose a couple of months ago and I still don't know how I feel about it. I've name changed in case anyone I know guesses It's me as I can't really tell the story without some outing details.

We're friends as part of a group-'Sally' and I haven't ever been the closest but we've always got along absolutely fine and have had some good times together as part of a group.

I am a landlord-a small scale one. I own 3 properties with a business partner, a home I live in (mortgaged) and another residential property which an ex lives in and owns 50% of-I rent out the spare room in that (that I used to be in) to a friend. Of the latter property, I don't' get rent as such-friend just pays the mortgage for me.

None of the properties are particularly big or in expensive areas, one is a three bed the others are small two beds.

Sally messaged me (not unusual, she messages me sometimes) and said that she'd looked online (assume rightmove or somewhere) and worked out how much each of my houses were worth and so she knows how much I am worth. My first question was 'well why've you done that?!' and she said she was working out how much she was 'worth' and decided to do mine too. She has also (alarmingly, I think) looked at some of my more expensive clothes and added this to my 'worth' too. She said in part to this conversation 'What's (dog's name) cost as well?!'

(FWIW my dog is a mutt and not worth anything in terms of monetary means).

She told me the amount she'd concluded and since then she's been acting strange. We met up for a boozy lunch one weekend and toward the end someone said they were getting another glass of wine and I said 'Hm, not sure if I fancy another one too' to which 'Sally' said 'Get one, you can afford it, moneybags!'

Another time I was out walking my dog and bumped into her and I had scruffy clothes on as it was cold and wet and she said 'You shouldn't be wearing that bobbly jumper with all you money!' or something.

I have another couple of examples-It's odd and making me feel uncomfortable.

I am a single woman, I don't earn a lot of money in my job, I don't buy expensive things, simple lifestyle, no holidays or huge purchases, old car-I definitely do not see myself as ANYTHING like wealthy or rich or such. It isn't as if I can just withdraw a couple of £100 from a house to treat myself. I've been quite unlucky in terms of relationships and jobs, just broke up with someone so I am feeling quite down and lonely- and the fact I've got a couple of houses give me a safe feeling, but I don't see myself as 'moneybags' or successful or anything of the sort. I also find it really weird that she's essentially rummaged about in my situation like that, who could be bothered? It's nosy and intrusive IMO?

I don't know what to think. I havent' told anyone I know about this and I also would like some examples of what I should say to her if she says anything else which I am sure she is going to!

I hope your HMRC affairs are in order. Off note, the fact that your friend "just pays your mortgage" as you put it doesn't matter, it is an income. The reason I mention this is your friend is a psycho so I won't be surprised if she contacts the HMRC flagging you for tax evasion. Cut her off. Life's too short to have poison in your leisure time

Rosey63 · 03/02/2025 18:44

If she says anything else, you could tell or text her you'd seen a thread on mumsnet and you laughed because it could have been written by you and send her the link. She'll guess it's you but hey, deny, and move on. She'll have got the message from everyone's comments🤗

CatherineDurrant · 03/02/2025 18:32

I'd be uncomfortable too.

If you want to keep her as a friend, tell her she's misunderstood whatever info she thinks she has and you don't want to talk about it.
Otherwise consider removing her from your life.

Lollipop81 · 03/02/2025 18:25

She is jealous. It’s absolutely none of her business and I would be telling her so. Not a person I would want to be friends with for certain.

RoastDinnerSmellsNice · 03/02/2025 16:31

JWhipple · 02/02/2025 22:43

When she starts just respond with "alright stalker, calm down!"
Repeatedly respond to her by referring to her stalking behaviour in a light hearted manner
"Yes, we get it. You spent a few hours obsessing over me. You're annoyed that you think I have more money than you. It's sad but there we are. I suppose situations like this are why most people know not to discuss their salary with friends. And why it's not normal to stalk your friends. Also why I'm really REALLY grateful you don't work in healthcare, imagine what you'd be doing with people's medical information if this is what you're like making sh*t up about my net worth"

Love these suggestions!

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 15:50

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:21

I think you’ve misunderstood, my point was if OP starts making statements like they can’t afford X, Y and Z in an effort to minimise their perceived wealth to their friend “Sally” (as was suggested by another poster) it will be pretty transparent that it’s not genuine.

Sally has already done some sums with a degree of accuracy even if she doesn’t have all the details - OP harping on about shopping on vinted isn’t going to assist.

As is often the case my comments have been taken out of context and down a rabbit hole by someone attempting to discredit the rationale behind the comments and belittle me as a poster.

Edited

Oh come now, I wasn't trying to 'belittle' you! You talked about knowing 'people' (it later changed to one person) who are better off than they claim and how annoying it is. That's what I was talking about.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 03/02/2025 13:52

She's not your friend. You need to detach. Fade away from her view. Don't answer texts - leave the answer for a few days.

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:21

MzHz · 03/02/2025 13:16

Damned right! I don’t give a monkeys what my friends have/don’t have. And I certainly would not want them to be sizing me/my oh up.

I think you’ve misunderstood, my point was if OP starts making statements like they can’t afford X, Y and Z in an effort to minimise their perceived wealth to their friend “Sally” (as was suggested by another poster) it will be pretty transparent that it’s not genuine.

Sally has already done some sums with a degree of accuracy even if she doesn’t have all the details - OP harping on about shopping on vinted isn’t going to assist.

As is often the case my comments have been taken out of context and down a rabbit hole by someone attempting to discredit the rationale behind the comments and belittle me as a poster.

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 13:17

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:13

@MarkWithaC ok 🤔 odd that you have time to spend on MN but not be able to conclude that someone on a teachers salary can’t afford a Ferrari 🤣

You mentioned priorities before; well, I guess, to put it in terms you'll understand, I don't prioritise thinking about what people might earn or how they might spend their money, or doing (even simple quick) maths about it.
You clearly do things differently to me; that's fine. I've really said all I have to say on this now.

MzHz · 03/02/2025 13:16

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:52

Good heavens, if you have the time/headspace/energy to think about all this then good luck to you. I must be doing it wrong; I can't imagine having the wherewithal to think all this about people.
Plus I rather like my friends and I don't tend to judge them.

Damned right! I don’t give a monkeys what my friends have/don’t have. And I certainly would not want them to be sizing me/my oh up.

MzHz · 03/02/2025 13:14

Genuinely blow this up @theidiotswind

tell all your friends that this woman has been digging and googling your private information and is now using it against you. Tell her to stop behaving like this and cut her off.

this is a huge deal and she has absolutely no right to do this.

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:13

@MarkWithaC ok 🤔 odd that you have time to spend on MN but not be able to conclude that someone on a teachers salary can’t afford a Ferrari 🤣

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 13:10

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:04

It’s not difficult is it? If you know what someone does for a living you’re going to have a good idea of what they earn. It’s hardly a difficult exercise. Most average salaries are advertised. It’s not a matter of “judgment” to have the cognitive ability to do simple sums.

Yeah, look, we just have to agree to disagree. I neither particularly want nor have time to think about what people's salaries might be (and actually I couldn't say I have a good idea of salaries in most if any areas of work outside my own). Nor do I have the time or headspace to do even 'simple sums' about my friends' incomes and expenditure. Or the desire to use that knowledge and those sums to draw conclusions about them.

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 13:04

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:52

Good heavens, if you have the time/headspace/energy to think about all this then good luck to you. I must be doing it wrong; I can't imagine having the wherewithal to think all this about people.
Plus I rather like my friends and I don't tend to judge them.

It’s not difficult is it? If you know what someone does for a living you’re going to have a good idea of what they earn. It’s hardly a difficult exercise. Most average salaries are advertised. It’s not a matter of “judgment” to have the cognitive ability to do simple sums.

Peppermilk24 · 03/02/2025 13:01

OP I know someone like this. We are all part of a wider group with several ladies having children with additional needs. "Lisa" recently mentioned that "Joan" (both parents of children with additional needs) had been chatting to her about a recent assessment that Lisa had completed wherein she was awarded additional benefits. Joan was quizzing Lisa about this and was seemingly very resentful about Lisa having the additional income.

She often makes comments about Lisa's ex partner (father of her children with a high profile job) and how Lisa must have no money worries etc. I know that Lisa's ex pays exactly what he is meant to and not a penny over. She works full time and leads a very quiet frugal life so definitely not rolling in it. I suppose its the resentful portion of it that rankles with me and a few others. She is supposed to be a friend but cannot be happy for Lisa. Joan is married and will often make pointed comments about single parents having better treatment etc and how she cannot afford to do anything privately but waiting on NHS for any tests her children require. The joke of it is that Joan leads a far more extravagant lifestyle tha most of us. She is regularly socialising, mini-trips etc. Lisa saved for over 18 months to pay for a private appointment and report on one of her DC so they could access additional help at school and apparently Joan has been very snippy about it. Jealousy and resentment is awful and its coloured our view of Joan. All you can do OP is tell your friend that money chats make you uncomfortable and that she needs to stay out of your financial business. Its nearly creepy that she has gone to such lengths to find out information on you.

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:52

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 12:33

Well no, but it is possible to deduce whether or not someone is being deliberately misleading and trying to create their own narrative more often than not. Especially if you know them well.

Good heavens, if you have the time/headspace/energy to think about all this then good luck to you. I must be doing it wrong; I can't imagine having the wherewithal to think all this about people.
Plus I rather like my friends and I don't tend to judge them.

WoolySnail · 03/02/2025 12:46

CantStopBuyingSeeds · 03/02/2025 11:28

Yeah she's a notch and she's sounds like one of those people seems to think you owe her some of your money to 'even things out'.

However, not to split hairs but if you're pulling in 120kpa and you're on your own, then yes you are wealthy! I wouldn't ever use the term moneybags even if I was referring to a millionaire but with that being said, it's incorrect for you to say that you don't see yourself as anywhere near 'moneybags' as £120k per year is almost £100k more than the average person's income! That's a LOT of money.

Unless ive misunderstood the op isn't pulling in 120k a year, she has assets to that amount which aren't even accurate considering the friend has included old discounted designer clothes and the dog!!

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 12:33

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:32

Oh, I stand corrected! You have one friend whose financial situation you (purport to) know all about, therefore most people can generally deduce the financial situation of most other people Hmm

Well no, but it is possible to deduce whether or not someone is being deliberately misleading and trying to create their own narrative more often than not. Especially if you know them well.

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:32

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 12:16

Not really. I have a friend in particular who bleats on about how it’s “alright for me” because I have more disposable income (again, her assumption) but she has three ponies in the garden and four pedigree dogs. All of which she competes, which is expensive. A horse box worth £70k on the drive and yet she drivels on about not being able to afford “luxuries” and is living off tinned soup. It’s not difficult to deduce that she’s not actually in financial hardship she just directs her disposable income according to her priorities. It soon gets frustrating mustering faux sympathy for someone who is clearly not experiencing the hardship they attest to.

Best thing to say is nothing - people can’t argue with an absent response.

Oh, I stand corrected! You have one friend whose financial situation you (purport to) know all about, therefore most people can generally deduce the financial situation of most other people Hmm

TriangleBingoBongo · 03/02/2025 12:16

MarkWithaC · 03/02/2025 12:06

It's not about intelligence Hmm. Most people just don't know the ins and outs of others' finances. I think it's pretty arrogant to assume that you can 'deduce' the details of someone else's financial situation.

Not really. I have a friend in particular who bleats on about how it’s “alright for me” because I have more disposable income (again, her assumption) but she has three ponies in the garden and four pedigree dogs. All of which she competes, which is expensive. A horse box worth £70k on the drive and yet she drivels on about not being able to afford “luxuries” and is living off tinned soup. It’s not difficult to deduce that she’s not actually in financial hardship she just directs her disposable income according to her priorities. It soon gets frustrating mustering faux sympathy for someone who is clearly not experiencing the hardship they attest to.

Best thing to say is nothing - people can’t argue with an absent response.

Nobodyknowsitall · 03/02/2025 12:07

Sally is a jealous dickhead. What an absolute weirdo.

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