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To think cooking from scratch is not always cheaper?

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RainbowSlidders · 02/02/2025 16:55

I would like to start by saying due to allergies I do cook and bake from scratch. I see people on here saying it’s so much cheaper cooking everything from scratch but honestly I think a lot of time it isn’t although it is definitely nicer.

Last night I made spaghetti bolognaise the ingredients cost me over £18 for 6 portions (family of 5 plus 1 portion for dc to take back to uni). How is that cheaper? A jar of sauce is about 75p in Aldi so I can see why people use it and not to mention the extra cost of fuel and the time it takes, 30 minutes on the hob followed by 3.5 hours in the oven.

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Ferro · 02/02/2025 22:22

MummyInTheNecropolis · 02/02/2025 22:11

As others have already pointed out, it depends what you’re making. A jar of pesto for example is way cheaper than the ingredients to make your own, so I usually buy it ready made (even though it’s not as nice)! On the other hand, last week I made carrot and coriander soup, it cost me about £1.50 to make a huge batch, at least 8 portions so much, much cheaper than buying it ready made.

But if the jar of pesto was made with 100% olive oil, real cheese and pine nuts like your homemade pesto, it would be expensive too.

MummyInTheNecropolis · 02/02/2025 22:11

As others have already pointed out, it depends what you’re making. A jar of pesto for example is way cheaper than the ingredients to make your own, so I usually buy it ready made (even though it’s not as nice)! On the other hand, last week I made carrot and coriander soup, it cost me about £1.50 to make a huge batch, at least 8 portions so much, much cheaper than buying it ready made.

HairOfFineStraw · 02/02/2025 21:40

@RainbowSlidders I also reduce mine down in the oven. It's the caramelisation that makes it worth it. I do an adapted version of this- without the chicken livers and without adding gelatine as I use homemade stock and it's fine.

www.seriouseats.com/the-best-slow-cooked-bolognese-sauce-recipe

I'm intrigued by your sundried tomato trick and might give that a go. Assuming it tastes less tinny!

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/02/2025 21:16

StormingNorman · 02/02/2025 21:06

Lots of people put a little chilli in their bolognaise. And the lamb is different but sometimes I prefer it - it is a richer, softer flavour than the beef. It’s nice to mix it up sometimes. It’s really not a big deal but it most definitely is recognisable as a spag bol.

Don't get me wrong, I LOVE lamb - it's my favourite meat.

Tbh I'm a purist, so as soon as certain key ingredients are changed a dish stops being something. I'd call your dish spicy lamb spaghetti instead of Bolognese. But yes, it's not a big deal.

What is a big deal is that my cousin shortens spaghetti Bolognese to "spag bog" instead of spag bol.

Nameynameynamename · 02/02/2025 21:08

I can (and regularly do) make bolognese for about half what you are spending op, come on 🙄 you know it can be done much cheaper than that, surely

EdithStourton · 02/02/2025 21:06

That's fine, I just won't cook for you... :)

StormingNorman · 02/02/2025 21:06

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/02/2025 20:22

By dint of the lamb and chilli that is not bolognese!

Lots of people put a little chilli in their bolognaise. And the lamb is different but sometimes I prefer it - it is a richer, softer flavour than the beef. It’s nice to mix it up sometimes. It’s really not a big deal but it most definitely is recognisable as a spag bol.

Mirabai · 02/02/2025 21:02

EdithStourton · 02/02/2025 21:01

Oxo is belting in spag bol.

Oxo is minging in anything.

EdithStourton · 02/02/2025 21:01

Mirabai · 02/02/2025 20:56

Well I’ve never heard of Oxo in Bolognese and I’m certain the Bolognese haven’t either.

Oxo is belting in spag bol.

Mirabai · 02/02/2025 20:59

sansou · 02/02/2025 20:19

A soffrito (onion, carrot, celery, garlic) base for the sauce is pretty standard for ragu/bolognaise. Horses for courses.

Yep.

Mirabai · 02/02/2025 20:56

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 02/02/2025 20:09

Well this thread has blown my mind! I have honestly never in my life come across a spaghetti bolognaise with carrots & celery in it (sounds gross) or heard of it being cooked in an oven.

My from scratch bolognaise is usually:

500g of 5% minced beef - £3.89 pack
3 Chesnut Mushrooms - £0.89 punnet
1/3 of a red onion - £0.69 pack of 3
Carton of passata or can of chopped tomatoes - £0.55
1/2 small bottle of Red Wine - £2.75 a bottle
An oxo cube - £2.78 box of 24
Squeeze of garlic puree - £0.85 tube
Squeeze or 2 of tomato puree - £0.59 tube
Mixed Herbs - £0.59 jar
Pepper - ?
1/3 pack of Spaghetti - £0.75 per pack
Garlic Bread / Baguettes - £1.49 for two
Parmasan - £1.59

Thats £17.41 for 3-4 servings based on the assumption I didn’t have a single item in stock and had to buy new packs (since most items don’t come in individual servings) of everything. In reality using stuff I already have in its probably more like £11 (or less as personally I wouldn’t normally do garlic bread and only parmasan if we already had some needing using up).

A jar of Dolmeo is £2.50
You’d still need:
Mince £3.89
Your Spaghetti £0.75
Your Garlic Bread £1.49
Your Palmasan £1.59

Thats £10.22 but wouldn't leave any ingredients over to use in other meals so actually in the grand scheme of things there probably isn’t that much difference in overall cost.

Cooking is an hour simmering on the hob.

Well I’ve never heard of Oxo in Bolognese and I’m certain the Bolognese haven’t either.

catgirl1976 · 02/02/2025 20:49

None of you put enough wine in your spag Bol. I do half a bottle perfect 500g of meat.

dreamydell · 02/02/2025 20:47

All we've learned from this thread is that it's expensive to make a tasty, high quality bolognese to serve 6 adults.

Does that surprise anyone?

If I want a cheap meal I'll make something else.

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/02/2025 20:43

TartanMammy · 02/02/2025 17:57

Charlie Bingham's Bolognese is £6 a portion, which might be the equivalent to your recipe.

It's Bigham's not Bingham's, but you are by no means alone.

Milkbottlewaffle · 02/02/2025 20:37

What a bizarre thread.
Of course a meal made from scratch using luxury ingredients is going to cost more than a ready meal.

AlphaBravoGamma · 02/02/2025 20:28

sansou · 02/02/2025 20:19

A soffrito (onion, carrot, celery, garlic) base for the sauce is pretty standard for ragu/bolognaise. Horses for courses.

There's no garlic in a soffrito.

However, anyone can make it how they want to, add garlic, do it for 20 mins on the hob, have it with spaghetti, macaroni, penne, whatever - it's you eating it so if you're making it, make it how you like it.

But that's a meat sauce with pasta, not a Bolognese ragu

Gwenhwyfar · 02/02/2025 20:22

"I agree and it is just basic economics that the ingredients to make 6 portions of spag bol are more expensive than the ingredients to make 60,000 portions of spag bol, distributed as ready meal or jar."

Yes, economies of scale and efficiency.

Isittimeformynapyet · 02/02/2025 20:22

StormingNorman · 02/02/2025 17:35

Dinner for two adults: spag bol with garlic bread and a tomato & onion side salad.

Lamb mince £7
Two tins of tomatoes £2.50
Onion, garlic, carrot, mushrooms, tomato puree, fresh chilli and dried herbs £3(ish)

Pasta £2
Stock pot for pasta water £0.50

Garlic bread £3.50

Fancy tomatoes £3
Onion, EV olive oil, one lemon for juice £1(ish)

Parmesan £2.50
We usually get through more or less half a block as DH will cut off chunks to snack on while I finish up the cooking.

£25. My saving grace is that I make enough sauce and salad to last us for a couple of dinners.

By dint of the lamb and chilli that is not bolognese!

sansou · 02/02/2025 20:19

A soffrito (onion, carrot, celery, garlic) base for the sauce is pretty standard for ragu/bolognaise. Horses for courses.

AlphaBravoGamma · 02/02/2025 20:18

I'm half Italian, father from Bologna.

  1. 50/50 beef/pork mince and not the lean stuff
  2. Couple of slices of cut up smoked streaky bacon
  3. NO GARLIC
  4. Min of 2 hours cooking to develop the flavour
  5. Serve with tagliatelle, NEVER spaghetti
Strictlymad · 02/02/2025 20:17

I agree, I can get cheap pizzas for £1, but to make a nice pizza from scratch with decent toppings costs £6/8. And like you say cheap jarred sauces are much cheaper than scratch. Dr Chris and his upf stuff says upf is cheaper than real food too

Gwenhwyfar · 02/02/2025 20:12

CountingDownToSummer · 02/02/2025 19:19

@Gwenhwyfar thank you, I've never heard of putting Bolognaise in the oven but I'm in no way what you would class as a good cook so something like this passing me bye is not surprising 😀

I don't think it necessarily should go in the oven, but there's plenty of authoritative sources that say to cook it (on the hob presumably) for 3 hours or so.

PyongyangKipperbang · 02/02/2025 20:11

McLennonK · 02/02/2025 20:00

Why are you putting a bolognese in the oven? I have only ever made it on the hob in a big pan.

In defence of the OP, proper bolognese is supposed to be oven cooked for hours, the "on the hob for 20 minutes" job that most British people do would have your average Italian turn their nose up in disgust!

Its like the difference between slow braised beef that is fall apart tender put into a pie with crumbly home made pastry and a rich redwine gravy v a Greggs steak bake!

GlitteryUnicornSparkles · 02/02/2025 20:09

Well this thread has blown my mind! I have honestly never in my life come across a spaghetti bolognaise with carrots & celery in it (sounds gross) or heard of it being cooked in an oven.

My from scratch bolognaise is usually:

500g of 5% minced beef - £3.89 pack
3 Chesnut Mushrooms - £0.89 punnet
1/3 of a red onion - £0.69 pack of 3
Carton of passata or can of chopped tomatoes - £0.55
1/2 small bottle of Red Wine - £2.75 a bottle
An oxo cube - £2.78 box of 24
Squeeze of garlic puree - £0.85 tube
Squeeze or 2 of tomato puree - £0.59 tube
Mixed Herbs - £0.59 jar
Pepper - ?
1/3 pack of Spaghetti - £0.75 per pack
Garlic Bread / Baguettes - £1.49 for two
Parmasan - £1.59

Thats £17.41 for 3-4 servings based on the assumption I didn’t have a single item in stock and had to buy new packs (since most items don’t come in individual servings) of everything. In reality using stuff I already have in its probably more like £11 (or less as personally I wouldn’t normally do garlic bread and only parmasan if we already had some needing using up).

A jar of Dolmeo is £2.50
You’d still need:
Mince £3.89
Your Spaghetti £0.75
Your Garlic Bread £1.49
Your Palmasan £1.59

Thats £10.22 but wouldn't leave any ingredients over to use in other meals so actually in the grand scheme of things there probably isn’t that much difference in overall cost.

Cooking is an hour simmering on the hob.

PyongyangKipperbang · 02/02/2025 20:08

RainbowSlidders · 02/02/2025 17:31

And my point was the answer anytime someone mentions the cost of food increasing every week is cook from scratch it’s so much cheaper. I don’t think that is always true.

Home made spag bol sauce of the type you would get in a jar would probably be comparable on cost and have less sugar and additives in it. It would also take a fraction of the time yours cost. And you would probably think it tasted rank compared to yours.

So yes, usually home made is cheaper and tastes better. The fact that you are choosing to spend nearly £20 on something that you could make for a hell of a lot less, doesnt mean that over all premade is better value.

So YABU.