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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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Upstartled · 04/02/2025 14:00

Mrsbloggz · 04/02/2025 13:43

The USA will soon be getting musk's version of the Chinese social credit system or is that the Mickey mouse version?
He's gonna feed all that data into an algorithm isn't he and then decide that half the population needs to be fed into a sausage making machine because they are costing too much money and because they need cheap sausages.

He'd have to work hard to keep up with Maid.

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 13:56

Mrsbloggz · 04/02/2025 13:43

The USA will soon be getting musk's version of the Chinese social credit system or is that the Mickey mouse version?
He's gonna feed all that data into an algorithm isn't he and then decide that half the population needs to be fed into a sausage making machine because they are costing too much money and because they need cheap sausages.

And then complain that the sausage market has collapsed as the price plummets.

It's not quite Hanlons razor, as there is malice aplenty here. But I think we need to recognise - and reflect - that it is entirely being harnessed to advance the situation of Trump and his elk. Sadly, "the left" has rather caused the population to become inured to this behaviour by a little bit of "cry wolf" at shadows. Which enabled the real wolf to sneak past in plain sight.

Oh well, we all know how this gets solved. Whether we know it or not. We know.

Mrsbloggz · 04/02/2025 13:43

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 11:24

Personally I would be more concerned that all US citizen data is now being siphoned off by Musk and Mates. Which will make anonymity impossible, and put every American under the cosh of a "We know who you are and where you live" regime. Details that would have required a court order before will now be available to anyone Musk and Co ask to get them.

I suspect they are already sorting that data to start picking off the undesirables.

Remember that huge fuck-off database that NuLabour wanted to create under Blair ?

The USA will soon be getting musk's version of the Chinese social credit system or is that the Mickey mouse version?
He's gonna feed all that data into an algorithm isn't he and then decide that half the population needs to be fed into a sausage making machine because they are costing too much money and because they need cheap sausages.

RingoJuice · 04/02/2025 13:32

Leilanii · 04/02/2025 12:56

Oh sorry @RingoJuice. I didn't realise that you speak on behalf of all Americans(!)

I am speaking to this ‘mindset’ you referred to. Many of us love our country but recognize things could be better.

Snakebite61 · 04/02/2025 13:21

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

Sick of our politicians and media sucking up to this perverted creep.
Take a look at trump. Our version is reform.
We need somebody with backbone to call him out for what he is. Only a complete idiot would see this creep in a positive light.

Leilanii · 04/02/2025 12:56

Oh sorry @RingoJuice. I didn't realise that you speak on behalf of all Americans(!)

RingoJuice · 04/02/2025 12:26

Leilanii · 04/02/2025 11:14

There is definitely a mindset in America, which predates Trump's first term by many, many years that the US is the best country in the world and that everyone wants to live there. Which is why it's only recently that more Americans even have passports.

I certainly don’t think it’s the best country but it’s my country. Learn the difference.

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 12:12

SinnerBoy · 04/02/2025 11:56

Robbed from the Greek, of course!

As was democracy. And pederasty.

SinnerBoy · 04/02/2025 11:56

Robbed from the Greek, of course!

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 11:55

Basically the premise was the the US is the only nation that can be truly self sufficient in the modern world as they have all the metals and minerals required for manufacturers without going to other countries. There were lots of other points too.

The Germans have a word for that.

Autarky.

Goldenbear · 04/02/2025 11:50

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/02/2025 08:00

I listened to a book a few months back. Can't remember title or author unfortunately but it was very interesting.

Basically the premise was the the US is the only nation that can be truly self sufficient in the modern world as they have all the metals and minerals required for manufacturers without going to other countries. There were lots of other points too.

Basically we will have to go back to horses and ploughs and seasonally produced goods. And forget big pharma
And your meds

We do need the US

They may have the way but do they have the will, 41.2% of the U.S population are classed as obese, they rank number 10 in the world. UK is not great with 26% of the population classed as obese and we rank number 55 in the world. The real life ramifications of obesity are numerous health problems, so to be truly self sufficient you would need to address that first as you aren't going to have the workforce to fulfill the requirements of self sufficiency.

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 11:35

Cardamomandlemons · 04/02/2025 11:29

But who designed the operating system on the device you are posting from? (Actually, I don't know, I know nothing about tech, but I bet there is a bunch of American technology that's gone into most devices). I don't think boycotts can work on the individual level.

You don't really "design" OSs. They are (almost) all predicated on the Von Neumann architecture that (almost) all computers are built to.

Windows and MacOS are 100% as US as Apple pie (see what I did there).

If you want a less US-centric experience then you could use Linux. That's "free" (so the Americans hate it) and globally used and supported. But since I know you won't, it would be a waste of typing to say more.

Android is derived from Linux (a long time ago) but Google have so wrapped the Playstore into it there's no mass alternative.

iOS is obviously proprietary Apple.

The UK used to have ARM which dominated the mobile scene. However one thing and another and we rather lost that. We're careless like that.

Cardamomandlemons · 04/02/2025 11:29

But who designed the operating system on the device you are posting from? (Actually, I don't know, I know nothing about tech, but I bet there is a bunch of American technology that's gone into most devices). I don't think boycotts can work on the individual level.

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 11:24

Personally I would be more concerned that all US citizen data is now being siphoned off by Musk and Mates. Which will make anonymity impossible, and put every American under the cosh of a "We know who you are and where you live" regime. Details that would have required a court order before will now be available to anyone Musk and Co ask to get them.

I suspect they are already sorting that data to start picking off the undesirables.

Remember that huge fuck-off database that NuLabour wanted to create under Blair ?

Leilanii · 04/02/2025 11:14

There is definitely a mindset in America, which predates Trump's first term by many, many years that the US is the best country in the world and that everyone wants to live there. Which is why it's only recently that more Americans even have passports.

HappyNewFeckingYear · 04/02/2025 11:14

carchi · 04/02/2025 10:49

Produce from our own farmers

We can't produce enough calories to feed the population.

I have seen an argument that it is just about possible, it involves peas - a lot of peas.

Turkeyneck101 · 04/02/2025 11:14

RingoJuice · 04/02/2025 10:44

Trump and Musk are currently raiding USAID which funds so many projects that help everyday Americans

It is a foreign aid program. It has both a ‘legitimate’ and a ‘covert’ aspect. As these things tend to.

In any case, taxpayers should not be funding this

Dont know why but my post should have said 'and payment systems which funds... ' either way they're pillaging taxpayers money. Let's not forget it protects Americans by detecting and initiating immunisation programmes. You're obviously very isolationist in your thinking. Seems OK until something like the fires in LA needed Canada and Mexico firemen and resources to help put them out. I'm sure the irony isn't lost on them.

throwawayaway1 · 04/02/2025 11:12

RingoJuice · 04/02/2025 10:44

Trump and Musk are currently raiding USAID which funds so many projects that help everyday Americans

It is a foreign aid program. It has both a ‘legitimate’ and a ‘covert’ aspect. As these things tend to.

In any case, taxpayers should not be funding this

This is the kind of reductive thinking that shows someone with no understanding of the larger picture.

USAID keeps HIV/AIDS under some degree of control in countries like Africa. If no one is doing that in countries that can't afford to do it themselves, you know what happens? The virus mutates. And you know what happens when the virus mutates? And we're out of the WHO and we have a science denier in as head at HHS? A new, likely more lethal variant, starts killing people in the West and we're on the back foot because we've stopped tracking data.

carchi · 04/02/2025 10:49

HappyNewFeckingYear · 03/02/2025 21:25

Ok, we stop pandering to the EU,what do we eat?

Produce from our own farmers

RingoJuice · 04/02/2025 10:44

Trump and Musk are currently raiding USAID which funds so many projects that help everyday Americans

It is a foreign aid program. It has both a ‘legitimate’ and a ‘covert’ aspect. As these things tend to.

In any case, taxpayers should not be funding this

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 10:14

I'm not really sure if Trump understands that what he is doing will adversely affect American manufacturers?

He doesn't care.

Grammarnut · 04/02/2025 10:10

re Panama canal - handover was in 1977. Sorry!

SerendipityJane · 04/02/2025 09:54

All of Trumps posturing was for his home grown MAGA crowd.

When you add that filter to your data you get straight lines everywhere.

Remember - with MAGA reality doesn't matter.

Again: when you add that filter to your data you get straight lines everywhere.

The UKs role here, is to ensure that all of our interactions with Trump allow his MAGA base to wank themselves stupid (or hopefully to death) over how Trump is "the man".

HeBeaverandSheBeaver · 04/02/2025 09:14

@Coolasfeck

Just looked it up it's called "the end of the world is just the beginning. "

Coolasfeck · 04/02/2025 09:07

I’m guessing this was noisy cover for Elon Musk stealing the social security data for every American.