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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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TopPocketFind · 02/02/2025 11:50

https://www.businesstoday.in/world/canada/story/make-them-pay-canada-puts-trumps-first-friend-elon-musks-tesla-in-the-crosshairs-of-tariff-war-463097-2025-02-01

‘Make them pay’: Canada puts Trump’s ‘first friend’ Elon Musk’s Tesla in the crosshairs of tariff war

Canada’s EV adoption rate is outpacing that of the U.S., with nearly 17% of new cars sold in the third quarter of 2024 being fully electric, compared to just 8% in the US.

Porcuporpoise · 02/02/2025 11:49

If the UK wanted to influence US trade policy it would have stayed in the EU. We didn't so that's that.

Beyond which, although I despise Trump, he's allowed to set trade policies for his own country - and to harvest the results.

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:49

EmmaMaria · 02/02/2025 11:48

Whilst I don't disagree with you in principle, I don't think a boybott of US goods by MN posters will dent much. I'm guessing you are Canadian, so have a vested interest? Here's a simple solution - stop sending oil! Close the pipelines and he'll come to heel fast enough.

I can imagine that this conversation is going on in other places and not just on MN.

duc748 · 02/02/2025 11:49

There's not much actual made-in-America stuff in the UK really, is there? Levis are mostly made outside the US, I think. Harley-Davidsons?

EmmaMaria · 02/02/2025 11:48

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:41

Oh but it will. It will when he expands this programme and since world economies are so entertwined it will
have a knock on effect. All top economists are saying so. It’s naive to think otherwise.

Also the attitude annoys me - WW2 was ‘nothing to do’ with Canadians and we sent thousands of troops and fought along side. We are a Commonwealth country, ally and friend.

Whilst I don't disagree with you in principle, I don't think a boybott of US goods by MN posters will dent much. I'm guessing you are Canadian, so have a vested interest? Here's a simple solution - stop sending oil! Close the pipelines and he'll come to heel fast enough.

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:48

ImWearingPantaloons · 02/02/2025 11:37

An someone explain tariffs to me like I'm a child please?

Who pays? The companies importing to the USA, or the companies in the USA when they purchase the goods?

Imagine I have some goods and you want to buy them. You are then going to sell them to someone else.

I normally sell them to you for £100.
You sell them for £120.

With a 25% tariff, I still sell them to you for £100.
The Government looks at the price and says "You brought them for £100. Please give us £25 as a tax"

So you spent £100 on the goods (which you gave to me). You have to give £25 to the Government.

What price do you sell them for?

Coolasfeck · 02/02/2025 11:48

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:42

In other news

Musk is suing even more companies who are not advertising on Twitter

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

Is he going to start suing former users who’ve deactivated their accounts next? He seriously needs to put the crack pipe down.

Can’t believe America is going out like this.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:47

shuggles · 02/02/2025 11:47

@Rainingalldayonmyhead The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

Who on earth claimed that the US subsidises Canada?

President Trump.

shuggles · 02/02/2025 11:47

@Rainingalldayonmyhead The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

Who on earth claimed that the US subsidises Canada?

Upstartled · 02/02/2025 11:47

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:22

Their advertisers wouldn't like that.

Really? Personally, I don't think they'd give a shit. I certainly don't think they'll see many posters leaving to find an alternative, do you? Where would you go?

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:46

ThatFluentTiger · 02/02/2025 11:44

Your reply has got absolutely no relation to the question I asked you in my post you quoted. You’re just parroting things you’ve read in the Daily Mail.
Also, the ‘they’ you keep referring to are human beings. But for the grace of God you live in a safe developed country are so are able to live your life seemingly ignorant of other people’s struggles.

As I noted, people have been programmed with what to say when things go wrong.

Face it, it's a lot easier than actually applying precious brainpower the issue.

How do you thing religion started ?

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 11:46

SwedishEdith · 02/02/2025 11:39

Yes, because it's really easy to travel around as an asylum seeker when you've had to flee somewhere and probably don't a passport. I wonder why they don't all just do that? Silly us.

They are in France. France and that vast landscape called Europe is safe. There is absolutely no reason to risk your life on a boat.

If all asylum seekers were detained on arrival and detained indefinitely until their claim was processed the problem would go away.

isthismylifenow · 02/02/2025 11:45

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:42

In other news

Musk is suing even more companies who are not advertising on Twitter

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

He's a chop too.

ThatFluentTiger · 02/02/2025 11:44

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 11:38

Can you tell me why they risk their lives to get here rather than getting on a plane or ferry? No passport you say? They are already in France. The last time I checked it’s more of a liberal hole than the UK. It’s pretty safe.

Economic migrants are not asylum seekers.

Your reply has got absolutely no relation to the question I asked you in my post you quoted. You’re just parroting things you’ve read in the Daily Mail.
Also, the ‘they’ you keep referring to are human beings. But for the grace of God you live in a safe developed country are so are able to live your life seemingly ignorant of other people’s struggles.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:44

ImWearingPantaloons · 02/02/2025 11:37

An someone explain tariffs to me like I'm a child please?

Who pays? The companies importing to the USA, or the companies in the USA when they purchase the goods?

The end consumer. Always.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:43

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:42

In other news

Musk is suing even more companies who are not advertising on Twitter

https://www.npr.org/2025/02/01/nx-s1-5283271/elon-musk-lawsuit-advertisers-boycott-new

He really is like a crazy ex.

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 11:43

crackofdoom · 02/02/2025 11:36

It's kind of weird that Biden did absolutely everything in his power to avoid petrol prices going up at the pumps, such is its totemic importance to Americans. And now orange Mussolini has done something that will result in precisely that. Will be interesting to see all the MAGA supporters in their monster trucks tying themselves in knots trying to justify that.

They have already been told to blame Biden and DEI.

The same way some people in the UK have been programmed to shout "Immigrants" when they hear their masters call.

isthismylifenow · 02/02/2025 11:40

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 11:29

Florida orange juice

"Florida's orange industry is also a major player in the global market, with the state exporting over $630 million worth of citrus products each year. Orange juice is the most exported citrus product, accounting for over 90% of all citrus exports from Florida. The top export destinations for Florida's orange juice are Canada, Japan, and the European Union"

But they also import oranges from Brazil. I.e.. a BRICS nation.

SwedishEdith · 02/02/2025 11:39

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 11:28

You present yourself to a border officer at an official point of entry so you can be processed and screened properly. It really isn’t hard.

Dover beach by a dinghy is not an official point of entry.

Yes, because it's really easy to travel around as an asylum seeker when you've had to flee somewhere and probably don't a passport. I wonder why they don't all just do that? Silly us.

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 11:38

ThatFluentTiger · 02/02/2025 11:29

‘It really isn’t hard’…..been through it have you? Please tell us what it was like.

Can you tell me why they risk their lives to get here rather than getting on a plane or ferry? No passport you say? They are already in France. The last time I checked it’s more of a liberal hole than the UK. It’s pretty safe.

Economic migrants are not asylum seekers.

ImWearingPantaloons · 02/02/2025 11:37

An someone explain tariffs to me like I'm a child please?

Who pays? The companies importing to the USA, or the companies in the USA when they purchase the goods?

RockOrAHardplace · 02/02/2025 11:37

Deljay · 02/02/2025 09:42

It seems like it's more on the level of materials, right? It's like crude oil, or lumber. I'm just not personally buying much crude oil, so a consumer boycott won't have teeth. If Apple actually starts making everything in California then maybe I can get a Samsung next time, but is this likely? I'm not sure. Maybe!

I think we have to act at the level of trade blocs.

Sorry but that's a bit naïve. You may not need to buy barrels of crude oil but a countries industrial infrastructure does for production etc.

By example If the United States were to increase trade tariffs on UK goods, it could have several potential impacts on the UK economy:
Increased Costs: UK exporters would face higher costs to sell their goods in the US market, which could lead to reduced competitiveness and lower sales.
Supply Chain Disruptions: Companies that rely on US imports for their production processes might experience increased costs and delays, affecting their overall operations.
Economic Growth: The overall impact on the UK's GDP could be negative, as trade barriers generally reduce economic activity.
Consumer Prices: Higher tariffs could lead to increased prices for imported goods from the US, affecting UK consumers.
Retaliatory Measures: The UK might respond with its own tariffs on US goods, leading to a potential trade war that could further harm both economies.
While the exact impact would depend on the specifics of the tariffs and the response from both sides, it's clear that increased trade tariffs could pose significant challenges for the UK economy.

This is what Canada/Mexico and China are facing now.

And for the UK, this is the type of stuff we get from the USA so it could have far reaching implications

Machinery and Transport Equipment: This includes items like aircraft, vehicles, and industrial machinery.
Chemicals: Pharmaceuticals and other chemical products.
Food and Drink: Items such as soybeans, corn, and various processed foods.
Consumer Goods: Electronics, clothing, and household items.
Energy Products: Crude oil and natural gas.

Trump is damaging hard built relationships forged over centuries, not just abroad but in his own country. He has no filter. Yes there maybe change needed (but significantly not all in his favour) and there are ways of addressing things without using a bulldozer.

crackofdoom · 02/02/2025 11:36

Floppyzebra · 02/02/2025 11:30

I agree but I guess if they have to, they'd fair better than most.

Maybe that's what he wants long term, "America first" and all that...

It's kind of weird that Biden did absolutely everything in his power to avoid petrol prices going up at the pumps, such is its totemic importance to Americans. And now orange Mussolini has done something that will result in precisely that. Will be interesting to see all the MAGA supporters in their monster trucks tying themselves in knots trying to justify that.

CerealPosterHere · 02/02/2025 11:35

It has the potential to affect everyone. World trade war. Trump is planning similar moves against the EU and U.K.. I’d love to see the rest of the world band together and do new trade deals with each other and isolate the USA. I’d particularly like to see Canada cut the electricity off. They supply 30 states with electricity and also supply a lot of oil so could cause fuel shortages if they wanted to.

the Canadians seem up for it, as in the general population. Trudeau is currently being more diplomatic. DD’s bf is Canadian and in a sector which could be seriously affected (alcohol wholesale) but is shrugging it off and says they’ll be fine. Dd is meant to be moving to Canada soon so I don’t want to see their economy tank. Cost of living over there is bad enough already. Trudeau gave a great speech yesterday and says he thinks things will get tough. Canada will impose their own tariffs on the USA if this continues, they did last time. Nobody wins.

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