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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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19kgofchocolate · 02/02/2025 12:29

Here’s what we import from the US. Not easy to boycott, but why don’t you start with not flying anywhere and not smoking. That will take care of three.

  • Fuels
  • In 2023, the UK imported £18.7 billion of fuels from the US, which was 23.5% of all fuel imports
  • Mechanical power generators: In 2023, the UK imported £5.5 billion of mechanical power generators
  • Aircraft: In 2023, the UK imported £3.1 billion of aircraft
  • Animal, vegetable fats and oils: In 2023, the UK imported $26.82 million of animal, vegetable fats and oils
  • Lac, gums, resins: In 2023, the UK imported $24.97 million of lac, gums, and resins
  • Explosives, pyrotechnics, matches, pyrophorics: In 2023, the UK imported $24.69 million of explosives, pyrotechnics, matches, and pyrophorics
  • Tobacco and manufactures tobacco substitutes: In 2023, the UK imported $24.41 million of tobacco and tobacco substitutes
MonkeyToHeaven · 02/02/2025 12:28

Parker231 · 02/02/2025 09:32

What about if/when Trump applies tariffs to the UK?

He won't. Starmer & Streeting will offer them greater access to our healthcare market.

JRSKSSBH · 02/02/2025 12:28

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:48

Well that may happen! Let’s see what Trudeau proposes. Remember in 2003 when the power went out in southern Ontario and northern US for millions and millions of people for days.

That man forgets how intrinsically linked we are.

It may get ugly for a while! It’s interesting to see Mark Carney has a very hard line too. Short term we look like we are saying the right things.

Sorry you do understand that Trudeau is on the way out politically, and what power does Mark Carney have? Your posters are hilarious.

CerealPosterHere · 02/02/2025 12:27

Floppyzebra · 02/02/2025 12:11

We shall see, hopefully it'll be a message for other countries and convince Canada to tighten their own borders.

Both countries need to tighten their own borders and there is evidence that this is already happening. Fentanyl flows in both directions across the border apparently. Both countries until the last few weeks have allowed pedestrian unmanned border crossings to operate but was announced very recently this is stopping (not sure how much these crossings contributed to drug flow). The PCT hiking community are a bit annoyed as they’ll have to turn back at the monument and do a longer hike back to the nearest USA town than if they could carry on to the nearest Canadian town. Could be dangerous in late Sept/oct which is when most people reach the border and the weather is closing in.

Canada has also announced more border security.

forbes say any drug trade or illegal immigration does not justify the tariffs as the numbers are so small.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/01/31/tariff-on-canada-not-justified-by-us-immigration-and-drug-claims/

Tariff On Canada Not Justified By U.S. Immigration And Drug Claims

Evidence suggests that the justification for a 25 percent import tariff on Canadian goods and services does not hold up to scrutiny. Here is why.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andyjsemotiuk/2025/01/31/tariff-on-canada-not-justified-by-us-immigration-and-drug-claims

SerendipityJane · 02/02/2025 12:27

Stop visiting the US.

Stop using the dollar.

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Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 12:25

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 12:20

Wrong again. They voted from Trump yea. The majority of Americans are against the tariffs.

Is that poll by the same company that said Kamala was going to win the election?

WaryCrow · 02/02/2025 12:24

In fact I don’t see how Britain can resist anyone or anything at this moment in time. Politicians even seem to want to reduce our food production - and the farmers have long been spoiled in comparison to the rest of us for that very reason. If we produce nothing we are dependent.

Congratulations to decades of neoliberalist fools and the greedy chasing big bucks who have neglected the basic building blocks of local markets and small production, and made such utterly impossible here via land prices (and huge immigration imports don’t help).

RingoJuice · 02/02/2025 12:24

Allthosedays · 02/02/2025 12:04

If you read the fact sheet released by the white house it makes more reference to the use of tariffs as leverage to force action against drugs entering the US, specifically fentanyl which is considered a public health emergency.
It also states that it will remain in effect until this is controlled. Rather than it being to generate revenue or increase inflation.

Canada has been identified as having labs producing fentanyl and China as providing the precursors for production.
www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

There has also been a huge increase in illegal immigrants (mostly of subcontinental Indian origin). Sadly an entire Indian family died crossing the northern border, including a baby. They froze to death.

Also fake trucking schools being used to transport drugs into the US and Canada is making no serious effort to stop this (imo anyway).

Whether tariffs will work in bringing back manufacturing in the US remains to be seen, I’m cautiously optimistic

Yogaatsunrise · 02/02/2025 12:23

The US is our biggest ally, and you think it’s a good idea to get into a spat that has nothing to do with us?! It’s honestly a ridiculous suggestion, and will lead to a serious fracture in our relationship with them, which is under enough strain as it is because of Starmer and Lammy.

Daisychainsforme · 02/02/2025 12:22

@Rainingalldayonmyhead I will be checking very carefully where my goods come from now

Well I'm glad you have the time.

I'm more concerned with helping elderly relatives now they've had their Winter Fuel Payment taken off them and working out if I can afford to take any staff on now that I have to pay extra for NI and wages etc etc🙄

Porcuporpoise · 02/02/2025 12:22

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 12:20

Wrong again. They voted from Trump yea. The majority of Americans are against the tariffs.

Then I'm sure they'll let him know and maybe that'll do some good. He does play best to the home crowd.

ExercicenformedeZ · 02/02/2025 12:22

Floppyzebra · 02/02/2025 09:55

He has to have a hard line to stop illegal immigration so I'm fine with it.

OFFS

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 12:20

JustMyView13 · 02/02/2025 12:12

The people of America, using their long standing democratic process, voted for this. Everyone could see the direction this election was heading. They got what they wanted.

Unfortunately, when you hyper focus on minor matters, you miss some of the bigger stuff which in the clear light of day was very obvious to ‘outsiders / foreigners’.

Wrong again. They voted from Trump yea. The majority of Americans are against the tariffs.

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 12:19

Allthosedays · 02/02/2025 12:04

If you read the fact sheet released by the white house it makes more reference to the use of tariffs as leverage to force action against drugs entering the US, specifically fentanyl which is considered a public health emergency.
It also states that it will remain in effect until this is controlled. Rather than it being to generate revenue or increase inflation.

Canada has been identified as having labs producing fentanyl and China as providing the precursors for production.
www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

OMG. Negligible amounts have come from Canada - less than 1%. In fact as another poster has kindly said it’s about 17kg worth. Please get both sides before you reference a point. Canada isn’t the problem.

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CerealPosterHere · 02/02/2025 12:17

Allthosedays · 02/02/2025 12:04

If you read the fact sheet released by the white house it makes more reference to the use of tariffs as leverage to force action against drugs entering the US, specifically fentanyl which is considered a public health emergency.
It also states that it will remain in effect until this is controlled. Rather than it being to generate revenue or increase inflation.

Canada has been identified as having labs producing fentanyl and China as providing the precursors for production.
www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/02/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-imposes-tariffs-on-imports-from-canada-mexico-and-china/

Just because the White House say this doesn’t make it true. Even the bbc which you’d hope would be balanced reckon it’s about revenue raising.

WaryCrow · 02/02/2025 12:14

Deljay · 02/02/2025 09:35

I think it's really hard to boycott goods these days. Everything is everywhere. What ARE American goods? I can think of really... 90s things?

I guess it's Coca Cola and Pepsi, Levis, Disney, Mars, MacDonalds, KFC, etc, Nike, Starbucks. But a lot of that is brands, right? It's not really things they make. What do they actually make just them?

What about things like Google, Microsoft, Apple? Isn't it all made in China?

This is the difficulty with large entwined supply systems. Ultimately nations got started as large scale community groups exchanging resources within commonly (or enforced) held standards, agreements and law. There is no such standard or social cohesion on the global map.

This is why some of us have never liked globalism, because of the vulnerability of close interdependency. I don’t see how the U.K. can resist America now, especially outside the EU. This is why all of our leaders are having to crawl and backtrack in humiliating fashion.

throwawayaway1 · 02/02/2025 12:13

neverthelastone · 02/02/2025 11:57

Yeah, the logic of the Brexiters was that instead of being in a trading bloc with our nearest export partners, where we would be an integral part of the decision-making, we would be having glorious new free trade agreements with the US… oops.

Sadly, Trump, like Brexit, is entirely a phenomenon entirely dependent on the votes of the lower half of the IQ distribution curve. I’m sure there will be a few Brexiteers along in a moment to argue with that, but we all know that unfortunately it’s true — both Trump and Brexit appeal to the more gullible and the stupider half of the voters. Unfortunately, as we know from Brexit, no matter what or how glaring the consequences, these people will still deliberately fail to understand the results of their actions. Just as even now threads of idiots speak on social media still claiming the only thing wrong with Brexit was that it wasn’t extreme enough, for decades we will have MAGA idiots blaming the consequences of Trump’s policies on Biden, Obama, vaccines, DEI, black people, immigrants or whatever. They’ll never learn. ☹️

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Unfortunately, I think this is a very accurate assessment.

WitchesCauldron · 02/02/2025 12:12

Upstartled · 02/02/2025 09:30

No, thanks. It doesn't matter to me.

Weird attitude.

JustMyView13 · 02/02/2025 12:12

The people of America, using their long standing democratic process, voted for this. Everyone could see the direction this election was heading. They got what they wanted.

Unfortunately, when you hyper focus on minor matters, you miss some of the bigger stuff which in the clear light of day was very obvious to ‘outsiders / foreigners’.

Upstartled · 02/02/2025 12:12

I mean, people didn't stop using Amazon when it was decimating the high street, they're not going to give it up just to stick it to Bezos, are they?

Tomatotater · 02/02/2025 12:12

shuggles · 02/02/2025 11:55

Fair enough. I'm surprised he thinks that.

I don't think this is a reason to boycott American goods though. The retaliation comes from governments that respond by increasing tariffs on American goods, so there is no need to have your own boycott above that.

I would also question whether it's strictly wrong for Trump to want more manufacturing completed in the US. On the question of what should be imported, and what should be made in our own countries, there's not really a right or wrong answer and it's about getting the right balance.

Given that climate change is a problem (yes, climate change is a real thing), I wonder if manufacturing more things in the UK, rather than having goods flown in from other countries, can help to decrease carbon emissions.

That's fine, but Musk and his like want their stuff manufactured in China so they don't have to pay a decent wage. If Trump wants things made in the US, Americans are going to have to do the work, at the same speed as they do in China and India, and their employers are going to have to pay them more. Just as we will have to if we want more manufacturing in this country. Less stuff, made better that lasts for longer, but much, much more expensive. The proliferation of people who don't care that a child has made their piece of crap top from Shein that they bought for £2 suggests that won't be happening anytime soon.

Floppyzebra · 02/02/2025 12:11

HipMax · 02/02/2025 11:58

Tariffs in Canada is stopping illegal immigration how exactly?

We shall see, hopefully it'll be a message for other countries and convince Canada to tighten their own borders.

Coolasfeck · 02/02/2025 12:10

EmmaMaria · 02/02/2025 11:48

Whilst I don't disagree with you in principle, I don't think a boybott of US goods by MN posters will dent much. I'm guessing you are Canadian, so have a vested interest? Here's a simple solution - stop sending oil! Close the pipelines and he'll come to heel fast enough.

If every Britain cancelled Amazon Prime or at least drastically reduced getting Amazon deliveries, there would be a noticeable impact on a key Trump ally.

XWKD · 02/02/2025 12:09

Pat888 · 02/02/2025 11:25

Fb, Disney+, Amazon, Google etc etc etc you are contributing to the billions tax paid from the multibillion these companies make from us mugs.

I don't pay for any of these. If people want to pay them to advertise to me, that's up to them, although I use ad-blockers.

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