Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

I can tell you one thing, he certainly won’t care about it we boycott them…

You do realise that Trump will be targetting the UK as well with tariffs because Musk does not like the regulations over social media that are coming.

The Tax Foundation estimates that the Trump tariffs could effectively be a tax of $830 a year on the average U.S. household.

https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/trump-tariffs-trade-war/

Basically.

The USA buys more from Canada than it sells to the USA.

Of course the US could make those things itself or source them itself. But that takes time and could prove to be more expensive.

Canada in the meantime will set up trading arrangements with other countries who are more reliable.And will do just fine as it has products other countries need.

The US is our biggest ally. They protect us economically and militarily. Just because you don’t like trump is no reason to boycott them. They buy 15% of our goods and services. They have 13 military bases and over 10,000 soldiers in the UK. we should be improving our relationship with our greatest ally, not destroying it.

@cakeorwine
Thanks that is interesting reading.
in my mind a subsidy is something someone gives you to benefit you and at a cost to.themselves but in the case of the US and Canada what Trump means by a subsidy is actually a trade deficit primarily caused by the supply of oil . The US are not handing over billions to Canada free and gratis but are buying essential fuel that it relies upon and which it would struggle to.supply for itself.
Is that the gist ?

This is from the US Government website

"U.S. goods and services trade with Canada totaled an estimated $908.9 billion in 2022. Exports were $427.7 billion; imports were $481.2 billion. The U.S. goods and services trade deficit with Canada was $53.5 billion in 2022."

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/canada

Some more information

https://economics.td.com/ca-canada-us-trade-balance

The Canadians (well, the government of Ontario) built an entire state of the art hospital in my borough during WW1 (to treat the soldiers they had to bring back from the Western Front) and donated it to the area at the end of the war. The borough has numerous grave markers for Canadians in their late teens and early twenties who didn't make it back.

Many people aren't aware what a close relationship it was.

what is he on about? that's like me saying I should own sainsburys because I buy my groceries from them. Does he even know what subsidy means ?

Then there's this:

"We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada. Why? There is no reason. We don’t need anything they have. We have unlimited Energy, should make our own Cars, and have more Lumber than we can ever use. Without this massive subsidy, Canada ceases to exist as a viable Country. Harsh but true! Therefore, Canada should become our Cherished 51st State. Much lower taxes, and far better military protection for the people of Canada — AND NO TARIFFS!"

Back on topic… yeah not sure a Canadian or UK boycott will do much good but hey it’s worth a try.

it is possible to be concerned with the politics of more than one country at a time you know.

Exactly.

Many Canadians died to support the UK in its fight against the Nazis.

Americans eat a LOT of Mexican avocado and drink tons of Mexican beer and tequila.

Mexicans eat a lot of American pork and poultry, so it will affect American farmers too.

As a Mexican I see an odd silver lining that maybe we'll start to consume our own produce as opposed to importing it.

The USA has a trade surplus with the UK - it would backfire hard.

@Grammarnut

when Britain did not steal land from Native Americans; the US did that, which is why there was a rebellion in the 13 colonies in the 1770s - the colonists wanted to move into Native American lands and Britain would not let them).

Huh? I think someone needs to refresh a bit on their world history 🤣

Much of the non-European world was colonized under the guise of the Doctrine of Discovery - a unilateral decree of international law issued by Pope Alexander VI in 1493 that categorized Indigenous Peoples as subhuman because they were not Christian and treated their land as unoccupied and available for the taking. In the early colonial period, there were sometimes treaties entered into or token payments made for use or purchase of Native People’s land. But predominantly, outright theft, enforced by violence, was the method of colonial land control. In 1663, by a decree from King Charles II, the colonial British Empire seized all the land of Native Peoples between 31 and 36 degrees latitude (an area extending from the today’s southern Georgia border to North Carolina’s northern border), from the east to the west coasts. Eighty years later, King George II of England awarded the Earl of Granville the upper half of what is now North Carolina. This area, which contained what is now Durham County, included 26,000 square miles stretching from the Atlantic Ocean to an indefinite western boundary. In the Carolina colony, Granville’s agents carved up stolen Native People’s land into parcels which were sold to English settlers. Ownership of these parcels was bestowed through land grants.

wfpc.sanford.duke.edu/north-carolina/durham-food-history/european-colonizers-create-wealth-through-stolen-land-and-stolen-labor-1600-1868/

Events leading up to the American Revolution - note there was nothing about expansion mentioned.

www.history.com/news/american-revolution-causes

It is coming across as a more concerted global response than individual countries "standing up to a bully". Mexico, Canada and China all responded immediately. Europe is sending out "just you try it on" vibes. They are responding as if it is a coordinated approach... Kick hard and fast to stamp out any future destabilising of global trade.

Usually in the posturing trade wars it is a smaller response from an individual country while the rest of the world looks on.

This.

History buffs might be interested to know a new translation of The Lives of the Caesars has been published.

Not quite sure why I mention that 🤔

None of those goons actually believes that justification, they just invoke it to cover their arse with the WTO - procedures there become completely unwieldy once a national emergency is invoked, however spuriously.

And he recently pardoned Russ Ulbricht!

He's a hypocrite and a liar.

Interesting to watch the death of a world power though.

Do you think anyone is going to give two shits about a few mumsnetters cancelling prime! It’s embarrassing to read.
You don’t like Trump, it wouldn’t matter what he introduced! I doubt he loses any sleep over a few lefties throwing a tantrum (again)

I am neutral on Trump’s presidency, he does have a lot of good ideas, and we could do with some of their vigour and enthusiasm for creating wealth and prosperity!

Look at what our bumbling fools in government are doing, why don’t you consider that Reeves is busy crashing the economy, taking us back to the 70s - and you have your fingers in your ears and tin hats on, screaming blue murder over the politics of another country. It’s pathetic.

@OhYouBadBadKitten even a fractional drop in Amazon Prime subscriptions hits the share price. Even more so if it’s part of a trend that grows in momentum.