Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

I'd like Starmer to do a speech along the lines of Hugh Grants in Love Actually to the sleazy US president

Should be good - he's had five years of coaching!

Sir Keir Starmer relied for five years on an actress and communications skills coach to improve his public speaking and interview performances, a new book has revealed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/starmer-labour-get-in-speaking-coach-b2690650.html

Vice President Vance

Strong words here from a Canadian politician

edition.cnn.com/2025/02/02/politics/video/chrystia-freeland-intv-trump-tariffs-canada-digvid

I really think you should add a domestic tariff to the energy you send there. Might focus minds, and I imagine can be sold elsewhere. Trump says they don't need it so it will be fine....

More from Trump

"“The USA has major deficits with Canada, Mexico, and China (and almost all countries!), owes 36 Trillion Dollars, and we’re not going to be the ‘Stupid Country’ any longer,” he wrote. “MAKE YOUR PRODUCT IN THE USA AND THERE ARE NO TARIFFS!” "

And what happens to those products that the USA produce to other countries?

If people stop buying them, then US exports reduce and that impacts US companies that export.

You can't rule out, though, the prospect of a US invasion if we withhold energy.

Trump might well be trying to engineer an excuse.

I do think we need to be more careful about how we consume although we don't need to be perfect. I have cut down on using amazon including replacing my kindle with a non amazon competitor, and I use independent rather than starbucks. I love frappachinos but I just don't want my money going to them. Is it a drop in the ocean but I still feel like I am doing something!

We live in Canada - and can almost laugh at how stupid Trump is. We have no intention of ever becoming another US state.
I’m (almost) hoping that electricity to the US is turned off and that they realise they can’t cope without goods from Canada and other countries. They are less self sufficient than they realise.

It's this comment from Trump that would really piss me off I was Canadian.

Can you imagine what would happen if he said this about the UK?

"We pay hundreds of Billions of Dollars to SUBSIDIZE Canada. Why? There is no reason. We don’t need anything they have. We have unlimited Energy, should make our own Cars, and have more Lumber than we can ever use. Without this massive subsidy, Canada ceases to exist as a viable Country. Harsh but true! Therefore, Canada should become our Cherished 51st State. Much lower taxes, and far better military protection for the people of Canada — AND NO TARIFFS!

I've met some oil which was perfectly civilised!
Why does Mumsnet always have to refer to it as crude!

(Misses the point of the thread).

Yup. Even in Canada, what I expect to be doing is avoiding American products where there's a non-American alternative. Avoiding everything US-owned would be extremely difficult and hopefully we don't get to the point where that's needed....(although who knows, we might be US-owned before too long....)

This Guardian article does a brief Q@A on tariffs. Look at the bit at how much it cost Trump to bail out US farmers act time he tried it. Fuckwit.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/feb/01/donald-trump-tariffs-what-are-they-global-trade-war-canada-china-mexico

Youre right, that’s not realistic at all.

But just because you can’t do everything, doesn’t mean you can’t do something.

So because the two countries haven't been able to come to terms on a new expanded trade deal (on top of the existing trade arrangements), its a "fuck you" from you, is it?

Absolutely love the Mitt Romney summation of trumps business 'success'.

You have to give it to Trump for being talented and ambitious; it takes a special kind of talent to bankrupt a casino and now his ambition is to bankrupt the world's largest economy.

Bizarre really. Love my old Focus. Gave it to dh and it’s still going strong.

Trump will just blame Biden, Obama, the EU, Canada, Mexico, EDI, essentially anyone or anything except him.

@CerealPosterHere
The cheapest brand new Ford is the Puma from £26k. Gone are any new Fiesta and Ka models, Focus soon to be gone. Fiestas started at about £22k. Nothing apart from the Puma to replace them. I assume they aren't bothered w8sh selling small cars any more.

Canada? Solidarity?

Per BBC News

"Negotiations between the UK and Canada on a post-Brexit trade deal have broken down after nearly two years, following a row over beef and cheese.

Canada has been pushing for the UK to relax a ban on hormone-treated beef, which its producers say in effect shuts them out of the British market.

The UK have concerns about 245% import taxes Canada put at the start of the year on British cheese."

Thanks to those showing solidarity with those of us in Canada.

Trump is going to let Russia have its way with Europe, and try to have the US absorb the rest of North America.

Hopefully they can get rid of him in 4 years but lord knows. Scary times right now.

Oh and it's obviously not about Fentanyl - significantly less than 1% of Fentanyl in the US enters via Canada. We have bigger problems with illegal guns entering from the US. If Trump had genuine concerns he wanted to address, he'd (1) take Trudeau's calls, and (2) lay out demands.

I guess that's the age old question for any information source, including our own government. They refer to it as a "fact sheet" and I imagine the figures given are all being scrutinised by opponents as we speak.

I was just trying to point out what seems to be missing from a lot of news articles about this is that they are clearly admitting it is about leverage with the countries bordering them to take some action on those issues, and not about a desire to start a trade war.

Mexican president Sheinbaum herself has said since she took office in October they had seized 20million doses of fentanyl and detained 10,000 people in relation to drug trafficking.

Hopefully if that continues the tariffs will return to more favourable numbers (or free again).

They did. It was called "The Apprentice, US".

All laid out there.

Not sure where firstly he gets the “trillion dollars” figure from or secondly why he thinks they owe half their worth to the USA!

Does it matter ?

Populism isn't driven by facts and data. It's driven by feelz. Look at Brexit - the template for populism Trump and co. have aped.

When the cold air of reality hit the delusions, it wasn't "Oh dear, we may have been wrong". It was "Damn those pesky remainers and their mass of support".

If Trump sat in a chair, commanding the tide to go out, and go wet feet, MAGA would simply tweet out that the ocean had gone woke and hordes of believers would descend on the shores with assault rifles to teach it a lesson. How dare the sea go woke.

If someone ten years ago was to write a book/make a film about a character like Trump (a serious film/book I mean 😉) most people would dismiss it as highly entertaining fiction, and dismiss all the scenarios introduced by the protagonist as unreal and unbelievable in real life.