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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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madamweb · 02/02/2025 23:01

KnickerlessParsons · 02/02/2025 22:52

What do we buy from the USA that we should boycott? Netflix? Amazon? All Disney films? Most films? McDonald's? KFC?

Tesla and X/Twitter seem like good boycotts to begin with
(Although admittedly most sane people left X ages ago and based on the way the drive on the roads most Teslas are driven by Andrew Tate types who probably love Musk even more now)

ticktickticktickBOOM · 02/02/2025 22:55

KnickerlessParsons · 02/02/2025 22:52

What do we buy from the USA that we should boycott? Netflix? Amazon? All Disney films? Most films? McDonald's? KFC?

Our biggest US imports are: fuel, aeroplanes, medicines

It's not going to work unless you all start giving up your health, holidays and travel.

KnickerlessParsons · 02/02/2025 22:52

What do we buy from the USA that we should boycott? Netflix? Amazon? All Disney films? Most films? McDonald's? KFC?

mitogoshigg · 02/02/2025 22:49

Unfortunately very little American products are now sold in the U.K. to boycott. Even brands like McDonald's are locally owned and they pay a licensing fee, but by boycotting you are hurting a British business far more than the McDonald's in USA. US imports to the U.K. are not consumer goods mostly, like planes, medicine, oil, parts etc.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 02/02/2025 22:47

Until the Canadian Government admit to the atrocities committed against indigenous people, right up to current times, and come clean about the boarding school murders and prosecute all those implicit in the taking, murdering and hiding of children, I don't give a toss what tariffs are places on their country.

Hoppinggreen · 02/02/2025 22:19

Parker231 · 02/02/2025 09:32

What about if/when Trump applies tariffs to the UK?

Then I will get interested.

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 22:15

Eyesopenwideawake · 02/02/2025 17:25

And how do you persuade an airline or a ferry company to sell you a ticket or accept you on board without the appropriate visa and/or a valid passport?

You really haven't thought this through properly have you @Potsofpetals ?

I’ve thought it through quite well actually. Please see my prviis post about Eritreans. They have Visa free travel with other countries that are perfectly safe

Lambington · 02/02/2025 22:15

Yanbu but I was already planning on avoiding American goods and services for the next 4 years after Trump's disgusting comments about the air disaster victims, the minimisation / acceptance Musks transparent fascism and the attempted promotion of an antivaxxer conspiracy theorist to lead their health department. To name but a few and no doubt more to come.

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 22:14

AllFurCoatAndFrillyKnickers · 02/02/2025 16:49

@Potsofpetals
You can't get on a plane, ferry or train to the UK from many countries without a VISA. So if you're in can't get here then you can't legally claim asylum.
The UK has clear rules for VISAs eg if you're from Eritrean (in Africa) you would need to get a VISA (business or tourist) before you are able to board a flight. Do you think most Eritreans could get one?

Then you go to the first safe country you can get to. You don’t need a visa to go to Gambia from Eritrea. Lovely country. I’ve been. Perfectly safe and they accept asylum claims from Eritreans

neverthelastone · 02/02/2025 22:11

The mad stuff about other countries in NATO not “paying their share” is daft rubbish, that only the hard of thinking come out with who are incapable of understanding the complexities of global politics, and think only in the narrow short term of money.

The US had maintained its status as a world superpower — and its dominance within NATO — precisely because it is financially the biggest player in NATO. This has allowed it to have a disproportionate say in how the West organises its global security (including much better terms for the US in operating military bases within other NATO countries). Financing and backing up other NATO countries has allowed America to be the superpower which survived the collapse of the USSR. It’s a quid pro quo: the reason the US is so powerful is that it can call disproportionately upon all the NATO allies (compare with China, for example, which is isolationist and doesn’t have a bunch of other allied nations to call upon). It has suited the US to call the shots in NATO. If other NATO partners were as equally invested, proportionately, they would have much greater sway over US and Western policy. Trump/Vance whinging about the EU and Canada not paying enough for NATO completely misunderstands that. The US will not remain a superpower for very long on its own.

In every way the MAGAs fail to understand how the global world works — not just in terms of trade, but also in terms of security. They seem to have a complete inability to see anyone else as any form of ally — they regard everyone else (apart from themselves) in hostile terms. No facts or common sense break through. On every thread on Canada on X there are absolute teams of posts just spouting nonsense about the Canadians allowing fentanyl and immigrants over the border (a made up nonsense that nobody anywhere thought until yesterday). No facts dissuade them — they just spout more rubbish (Trump will make us great again, we are subsidising Canada, immigrants are flooding in over the Canadian border, if Trudeau was a good neighbour he would not impose a retaliatory tariff and would stop the immigrants, and so on). Since when was a trade deficit a subsidy? Why is Trudeau imposing a tariff being a bad neighbour, but the fact that Trump has done it in the first place isn’t? Where is any evidence that millions of illegals or drugs are flooding in from Canada?

It’s all absolute piffle, giant piles of lying shite of the first order, but millions of Americans are absolutely lapping it up and lapping it up some more. Really worrying times for the world.

TopPocketFind · 02/02/2025 22:10

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 22:06

The legal route is to present yourself to a border official at a point of entry. This does not include the beach in Dover. How about you learn to read and take a look at the government website. Shouldn’t be hard. It’s the first paragraph.

Even Suella Braverman had to concede that for most refugees there is no other route to claim asylum than to cross by small boat.

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-fails-to-explain-how-asylum-seekers-can-get-to-uk-safely-and-legally-12753780

Suella Braverman fails to explain how theoretical asylum seeker could get to UK safely and legally

The home secretary was being questioned by MPs on immigration but could not say how asylum seekers could enter the UK legally, did not know how many judicial reviews have been launched against the Manston migrant centre and did not know if migrants cou...

https://news.sky.com/story/suella-braverman-fails-to-explain-how-asylum-seekers-can-get-to-uk-safely-and-legally-12753780

Alaimo · 02/02/2025 22:08

I'm not Canadian, but am based in British Columbia. Last night my local liquor store was already pulling US alcohol from the shelves. Saw a photo in my neighbourhood group of one the local grocery stores starting to put up stickers and signs to highlight which products are made in Canada.

Potsofpetals · 02/02/2025 22:06

AllFurCoatAndFrillyKnickers · 02/02/2025 16:39

@Potsofpetals
Q) What are the legal routes to claim asylum in the UK if you're not from Ukraine or Hong Kong?
A) There aren't any.

Get your facts right instead of spreading misinformation.

The legal route is to present yourself to a border official at a point of entry. This does not include the beach in Dover. How about you learn to read and take a look at the government website. Shouldn’t be hard. It’s the first paragraph.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 22:04

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 21:38

As President John F. Kennedy said many years ago, geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends, economics has made us partners and necessity has made us allies.

That rang true for many decades prior to President Kennedy’s time in office, and in the decades since, from the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours during the Iranian hostage crisis. Those 444 days, we worked around the clock from our embassy to get your innocent compatriots home.

During the summer of 2005, when Hurricane Katrina ravaged your great city of New Orleans, or mere weeks ago when we sent water bombers to tackle the wildfires in California. During the day, the world stood still, Sept. 11, 2001, when we provided refuge to stranded passengers and planes. We were always there, standing with you, grieving with you. The American people.
Together, we’ve built the most successful economic, military and security partnership the world has ever seen. A relationship that has been the envy of the world.

Yes, we’ve had our differences in the past, but we’ve always found a way to get past them. As I’ve said before, if President Trump wants to usher in a new golden age for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada, not to punish us.

I can't believe the Prime Minister of one of our closest allies has had to make that speech in response to the actions of another of our closest allies.

Thank you for putting the words from the speech here. Now that’s a statesman.

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vandel · 02/02/2025 21:44

Superb speech. The contrast between Trudeau and Trump is very evident. One a statesman the other a mad megolomaniac puppet.

What the heck are we going to do, it's quite unnerving how quickly long held alliances are deteriorating. It seems to be minute by minute now.

OneLemonDog · 02/02/2025 21:42

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 21:38

As President John F. Kennedy said many years ago, geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends, economics has made us partners and necessity has made us allies.

That rang true for many decades prior to President Kennedy’s time in office, and in the decades since, from the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours during the Iranian hostage crisis. Those 444 days, we worked around the clock from our embassy to get your innocent compatriots home.

During the summer of 2005, when Hurricane Katrina ravaged your great city of New Orleans, or mere weeks ago when we sent water bombers to tackle the wildfires in California. During the day, the world stood still, Sept. 11, 2001, when we provided refuge to stranded passengers and planes. We were always there, standing with you, grieving with you. The American people.
Together, we’ve built the most successful economic, military and security partnership the world has ever seen. A relationship that has been the envy of the world.

Yes, we’ve had our differences in the past, but we’ve always found a way to get past them. As I’ve said before, if President Trump wants to usher in a new golden age for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada, not to punish us.

I can't believe the Prime Minister of one of our closest allies has had to make that speech in response to the actions of another of our closest allies.

I think its naieve to continue to consider the US a close ally, at this point.

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 21:38

As President John F. Kennedy said many years ago, geography has made us neighbours. History has made us friends, economics has made us partners and necessity has made us allies.

That rang true for many decades prior to President Kennedy’s time in office, and in the decades since, from the beaches of Normandy to the mountains of the Korean Peninsula, from the fields of Flanders to the streets of Kandahar, we have fought and died alongside you during your darkest hours during the Iranian hostage crisis. Those 444 days, we worked around the clock from our embassy to get your innocent compatriots home.

During the summer of 2005, when Hurricane Katrina ravaged your great city of New Orleans, or mere weeks ago when we sent water bombers to tackle the wildfires in California. During the day, the world stood still, Sept. 11, 2001, when we provided refuge to stranded passengers and planes. We were always there, standing with you, grieving with you. The American people.
Together, we’ve built the most successful economic, military and security partnership the world has ever seen. A relationship that has been the envy of the world.

Yes, we’ve had our differences in the past, but we’ve always found a way to get past them. As I’ve said before, if President Trump wants to usher in a new golden age for the United States, the better path is to partner with Canada, not to punish us.

I can't believe the Prime Minister of one of our closest allies has had to make that speech in response to the actions of another of our closest allies.

madamweb · 02/02/2025 21:34

Turkeyneck101 · 02/02/2025 21:05

Did you hear Stephen Frys joke about Musk and Nazi cars....😅

Just read it 🤣

cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 21:33

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 21:18

Prime Minister Trudeau response to the tariffs. You may not like him but it was a great speech.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nLB46AR_O94

That was a very good speech. Reminding Americans of the times that Canadians have fought side by side with them.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 21:18

Prime Minister Trudeau response to the tariffs. You may not like him but it was a great speech.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=nLB46AR_O94

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Turkeyneck101 · 02/02/2025 21:05

madamweb · 02/02/2025 21:02

Agree. I'd like to think Musk's current antics will mean Tesla will absolutely sink as a company.

Because the alternative is that people buying Teslas are happy to line the pockets of a Nazi (and broadcast the fact)...

Did you hear Stephen Frys joke about Musk and Nazi cars....😅

madamweb · 02/02/2025 21:02

Turkeyneck101 · 02/02/2025 20:57

I actually was suggesting this not being facetious. My ultimate dream is that the world taxes the hell out of Tesla.

Agree. I'd like to think Musk's current antics will mean Tesla will absolutely sink as a company.

Because the alternative is that people buying Teslas are happy to line the pockets of a Nazi (and broadcast the fact)...

Turkeyneck101 · 02/02/2025 20:57

Timshortforthalia · 02/02/2025 19:42

Youre right, that’s not realistic at all.

But just because you can’t do everything, doesn’t mean you can’t do something.

I actually was suggesting this not being facetious. My ultimate dream is that the world taxes the hell out of Tesla.

TopPocketFind · 02/02/2025 20:49

Americans are about to learn some economics.

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico
cakeorwine · 02/02/2025 20:45

Stock Markets will be opening later

Technology stocks are expected to be hit, and the US’s Nasdaq index is on track to fall by 1.4% at the start of trading on Monday, according to IG. The official futures market opens on Sunday evening.
The Dow Jones index of 30 large US companies looked likely to fall by 0.8%, while the UK’s FTSE 100, which ended last week at a record high, was on track for a 0.7% drop.

The IG analyst Tony Sycamore said: “The surprise for markets today isn’t so much Trump’s tariff announcements – largely as flagged. It’s that Canada and Mexico retaliated immediately and that others, ie China and the EU, may follow their lead, resulting in a sharp contraction in global trade.”

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