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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:44

Parker231 · 03/02/2025 08:43

Why?

Because there is always one 😂

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:44

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

Good for you. And when this affects jobs, inflation, your economy and the cost of living caused by a complete not reason Trump in the US and him ripping up an agreement he negotiated and signed only a few years ago then I hope you stand by that.

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Parker231 · 03/02/2025 08:43

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

Why?

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:41

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Tisthedamnseason · 03/02/2025 08:38

We shall see, hopefully it'll be a message for other countries and convince Canada to tighten their own borders.

But more illegal immigrants go from the USA to Canada than the other way round (unsurprisingly). So by Trump's own justification, Canada is perfectly entitled to raise tariffs as well.

Or, just maybe that's not the actual reason.

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:37

From the BBC

Trading on European stock markets has just got under way and, as expected, they have fallen in reaction to Donald Trump’s tariff plans.

The main share indexes in both France and Germany are down by about 2%, while in London the FTSE 100 share index fell 1.2%.

Shares in German carmaker VW have dropped 5%. The company has operations in Mexico which leaves it exposed to the impact of the tariffs.

Upstartled · 03/02/2025 08:36

Meanwhile, Trump has attacked savings and pensions as stock markets fall around the world

Yes, the FTSE plugged to a level not seen till last Wednesday before it started to climb again.

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 08:32

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

"We" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there.

Meanwhile, Trump has attacked savings and pensions as stock markets fall around the world.

This will potentially hit UK inflation and borrowing costs - so our economy as well.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:23

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:15

America isn’t a continent. North America is a continent which is comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico. Please tell me you knew that or that your wilful ignorance was to make a point.

Yes the US is a beautiful country and I hate to break it to you everything you have said is equally true about Canada.

I don’t hate America or Americans at all. I haven’t been disparaging or negative toward the people or the country at all (including hen dos????!.

This is about your President being a bully toward its long standing peaceful neighbour and ally to the North.

What's peaceful about the systematic sterilisation and killing of indigenous people?

Why are you so quick to sweep this under the carpet and act like your government is some innocent victim?

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

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HappyNewFeckingYear · 03/02/2025 08:16

I guess Canada can put the oil sales back up to market price.
The US did well on the old trade deal.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:15

Devianinc · 03/02/2025 04:12

I’d rather live here than any other place in the world. America is an awesome place to live. You can live your dreams if you want to. You just have to work for it. America is a beautiful continent. The beaches and mountains are breathtaking. I’m sorry you people hate us but that’s how I read about how you feel about us. I’m definitely denying hen doos, never ever ever happened in the USA. Sorry. So ick

America isn’t a continent. North America is a continent which is comprised of Canada, the US and Mexico. Please tell me you knew that or that your wilful ignorance was to make a point.

Yes the US is a beautiful country and I hate to break it to you everything you have said is equally true about Canada.

I don’t hate America or Americans at all. I haven’t been disparaging or negative toward the people or the country at all (including hen dos????!.

This is about your President being a bully toward its long standing peaceful neighbour and ally to the North.

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cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 08:12

I wonder how many people realise that their pension funds, savngs etc are tied up in the economy and the Stock Market.

The UK stock market, like others, is falling today.

Wall Street opens soon.

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 08:08

LifeExperience · 03/02/2025 02:56

We have.

There was a free trade agreement that Trump renegotiated because he didn’t like the last one (NAFTA - North American free trade agreement). This was only a few years ago in his first term and it was agreed and signed by him Canada and Mexico. This is the point. He has basically ripped it up again.

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HappyNewFeckingYear · 03/02/2025 08:05

We in the UK might not need tariffs, as we can be worked on.
Guess that means US meat and other stuff.

What does America make or mine that is unique? Does the rest of the world have to trade with it?

notacooldad · 03/02/2025 08:00

No, thanks. It doesn't matter to me.
What about if/when Trump applies tariffs to the UK?
This is exactly right!!
Who will support us ,if we don't support others when they need help?

ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 07:56

Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 02/02/2025 12:37

Give up my Hershey bars?

Oh huge loss (do they even sell those here?). Their *chocolate is almost as crap as their cars. And their derivative biscuits, Oreos, good grief.

*aware Mars is a US brand, but most of the good stuff was created by workers in Slough, or are derived from earlier products (M&M from Smarties).

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 07:48

Trump talks about the gap in trade - but he forgets the massive US service industry that we (and the EU consume).

The U.S. goods trade deficit with the European Union was $202.5 billion in 2022, a 7.3 percent decrease ($15.8 billion) over 2021.

The United States has a services trade surplus of an estimated $71.2 billion with the European Union in 2022

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-union

Countries consume a lot of US services - and the US consumes a lot of foreign trade.

European Union

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/europe/european-union

CanadaNotAMum · 03/02/2025 07:46

Devianinc · 03/02/2025 04:12

I’d rather live here than any other place in the world. America is an awesome place to live. You can live your dreams if you want to. You just have to work for it. America is a beautiful continent. The beaches and mountains are breathtaking. I’m sorry you people hate us but that’s how I read about how you feel about us. I’m definitely denying hen doos, never ever ever happened in the USA. Sorry. So ick

I have no idea who you’re trying to reply to but you’re denying that hen dos happen in the US? A hen do is a bachelorette party ffs.

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 07:41

Devianinc · 03/02/2025 03:04

You all assume we Americans are wealthy and act like idiots. We don’t. We save for retirement just like you. I’m tired of seeing the crap over and over again how dumb we are. We’re just like you. We struggle just like you. We’re all the same guys.

I wonder how the US Stock Market will do today - it looks like the others went down by up to 2% last night.

Leilanii · 03/02/2025 07:40

Trump will no longer be popular with Americans when this hits them hard in the pocket, which it will.

isthismylifenow · 03/02/2025 07:33

MissyB1 · 03/02/2025 07:22

South Africa not America.

And he is gunning for us now.

He has already cut off USAID, which is affecting the poorest who need HIV and TB treatment. But this morning we got the news that he is cutting off all funding to SA, pending an investigation which relates to the land appropriation act. Bear in mind that Elon Musk and David Sacks are both hail from SA, and Theil from Namibia.

Our news is abuzz is all I can say.

forgotmyusername1 · 03/02/2025 07:29

mjf981 · 02/02/2025 10:16

What I don't understand is how one man can have the power to instigate such massive decisions. Surely there is a team of economists and advisors and the decisions are made collectively? I mean, Trump is an idiot, in no way a good businessman let alone an economist, and mad to boot. How can he unilaterally make these decisions?!

Because anyone who doesn't agree with him gets fired

He surrounds himself with yes men