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Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico

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Rainingalldayonmyhead · 02/02/2025 09:23

Stop buying American goods after Trump imposed 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico.

He says it’s because of phen and illegal immigration - less than 1% come from Canada.

This will have significant implications for the Canadian economy, the American economy and by domino the world. Not to mention the fact it could start a significant trade war.

The US doesn’t subsidise Canada - they buy Canadian goods. Approx 40% of their crude oil comes from Canada for example.

There is also an agreed trade deal between the US/Canada and Mexico that Trump agreed to and signed in his first years in office.

YABU - it doesn’t matter to me
YANBU - let’s stand up to a bully and support our allies

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TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 09:54

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 09:50

So many attempts by people to derail this conversation.

For some reason

Remember, they knew what they voted for.............

Leilanii · 03/02/2025 09:53

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

I think you mean 'Team Trump'

Which means we can stop paying attention to anything else you think. Wink

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 09:53

Trump: "The UK is way out of line and we'll see.

The UK, but European Union is really out of line.

UK is out of line but I'm sure that one, I think that one can be worked out.

But the European Union, it's an atrocity what they've done."

WTF is he going on about Confused

cakeorwine · 03/02/2025 09:50

So many attempts by people to derail this conversation.

For some reason

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 09:48

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ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 09:47

ticktickticktickBOOM · 02/02/2025 22:47

Until the Canadian Government admit to the atrocities committed against indigenous people, right up to current times, and come clean about the boarding school murders and prosecute all those implicit in the taking, murdering and hiding of children, I don't give a toss what tariffs are places on their country.

Has it not though?

Certainly much more so than america which as MLK stated in Why We Can't Wait

"We are perhaps the only nation which tried as a matter of national policy to wipe out its indigenous population. Moreover, we elevated that tragic experience into a noble crusade. Indeed, even today we have not permitted ourselves to reject or to feel remorse for this shameful episode. Our literature, our films, our drama, our folklore all exalt it."

There is a great book that contrasts the remorse of the Germans in regard to WWII and americans with their actions towards the Natives, which explains why the former is respected despite the Holocaust taking place just 70 years ago while the latter is not.

Why We Can't Wait - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_We_Can%27t_Wait

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 09:45

The EU is next…..he says he thinks it can be worked out with the UK but onky a fool would believe anything this man says now….

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8d90v1m6qvt

So, for those who don’t think this will affect the UK 8/10 of our top trading partners are in Europe - the other two are the US and China (taking from the UK government website).

Trump says US tariffs on EU will happen, but tells BBC a UK deal 'could be worked out' - live updates

European markets have already fallen in reaction to the US president announcing a 25% import tax on goods from Canada and Mexico, and 10% on goods from China.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c8d90v1m6qvt

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sleepwouldbenice · 03/02/2025 09:44

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 09:29

President Trump says the US will "definitely" impose tariffs on the EU, after already announcing tariffs on goods from Canada, Mexico & China

On tariffs on UK goods, Donald Trump says the UK is "out of line. But... I think that one can be worked out"

I don't want it worked out/ bullied into submitting
I want to be out of line
Arrogant git

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 09:38

Treaclewell · 03/02/2025 09:18

I'm a bit puzzled as to why T is offering 51st state status to Canada. Surely Canada is bigger than any US state, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. I think it is physically bigger than the tiddly USA, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. Surely the Quebec people would have a robust opinion about it. But if it were done according to size or population, with several states, then T would easily be outvoted. Wouldn't he?

He wants our natural resources. 60% of crude oil in the US is from Canada. No no one on Canada would ever want to become part of the US. Trump is waging an economic war on us to bring us to our knees to then say hey why not be one of us and then all the tariffs will go away and you will be fine.

The irony is that the US became a country based on people fleeing religious and monarchy persecution from Europe and they wanted to determine their own future.

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sleepwouldbenice · 03/02/2025 09:37

Schmusimausi73 · 03/02/2025 08:22

I am team USA all the way!

So you don't understand the worldwide impact of tariffs
Oh dear
Or perhaps you're American. In which case... oh dear

sleepwouldbenice · 03/02/2025 09:36

His recent threats to put tariffs on the EU are apparently as they don't buy enough American cars.
Totally missing the point that they are rubbish! America needs to wake up. It may be very powerful but much of what it produces simply isn't world leading anymore. It needs to adapt to survive, not just bully boy it's way around

HappyNewFeckingYear · 03/02/2025 09:32

@Treaclewell Canada 3.85 sq miles, US 3.53 sq miles reasonably similar.

Populations Canada 41.5 million, US population 335 million. US has about eight times the population.

If Canada were to agree to merge they would probably want each of the ten provinces recognised as states, that would not suit Trump. He does not want them as equals, he wants them subservient.

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 09:29

President Trump says the US will "definitely" impose tariffs on the EU, after already announcing tariffs on goods from Canada, Mexico & China

On tariffs on UK goods, Donald Trump says the UK is "out of line. But... I think that one can be worked out"

RobinEllacotStrike · 03/02/2025 09:21

Well I'm replying on my iPhone via an app I purchased via Apple so no.

Treaclewell · 03/02/2025 09:18

I'm a bit puzzled as to why T is offering 51st state status to Canada. Surely Canada is bigger than any US state, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. I think it is physically bigger than the tiddly USA, even removing the effect of Mercator projection. Surely the Quebec people would have a robust opinion about it. But if it were done according to size or population, with several states, then T would easily be outvoted. Wouldn't he?

ChessorBuckaroo · 03/02/2025 09:14

LakieLady · 02/02/2025 12:59

There are quite a few companies that are perceived as UK based but that are part of huge US conglomerates. You might be surprised.

Google Mondelez International, for example, and you'll find loads of "British" brand names among their brands, inc Cadburys and Bassetts; also Johnson & Johnson, who "own" loads of other brands, inc Neutrogena, for example, which I thought was a European company. And it's very tricky when it comes to pharmaceuticals.

I bet most of the batteries you buy are either Ever Ready or Duracell, both US owned. I knew Duracell were, but I thought Ever Ready was a British company.

I'm hoping some enterprising soul produces a decent guide to how to boycott US stuff.

China (and lately the middle east, such as Harrods department store and Qatar) own most companies/brands. Marshall (iconic amp brand from London) are now owned a Chinese group.

Who the current owners are doesn't change their identity though. China did not come up with Marshall amps, Jim Marshall did.

Liverpool FC are currently owned by a group from Boston, doesn't alter the identity of Liverpool as an iconic UK sporting institution. They will sell on, as will all those current owners of whatever brand/company they recently purchased.

The electric battery is a European concept (Volta). And many companies produce batteries, among them Panasonic (made by the Japanese, the global leader in electronics, video game consoles etc.) who have long been on the market. The lithium-ion battery (rechargable used in hand held devices) use cobalt, production of which largely comes from the Congo, and was first commercialised by Sony (Japanese).

And similar to the battery, the fuel cell, used to generate power for space capsules (getting man from earth to the moon) and satellites, was invented by Francis Thomas Bacon, a Cambridge scientist.

While the Nazis launched the space age with their rockets (led by German engineer Wernher von Braun), the first of which the V2 rocket became the first object to travel into space, once in space it needed the fuel cell to then transport astronauts to their next destination.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Thomas_Bacon

Rainingalldayonmyhead · 03/02/2025 09:14

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UmbrellaEllaEllaElla · 03/02/2025 09:11

If people still buy from China why would they stop buying from America?

SinnerBoy · 03/02/2025 09:10

Tomatotater · Today 09:02

The US also gets free access to the Panama Canal, so the US already has pretty favourable terms with other countries. Panama would be within thrir rights to renege on that deal and start charging them.

I don't know where you got that idea from, all ships pay transit fees to navigate the Panama Canal. Trump was whining that American ships pay more, which is patently untrue and he used it as a false justification for his threat to seize it.

StandFirm · 03/02/2025 09:05

ClareBlue · 02/02/2025 14:23

The EU has created one of the biggest barriers to trade in the world. If you are outside the EU block, which is similar to saying you are outside the USA, then to access trade into the block is full of excessive regulatory measures, quota requirements, competition against state subsidised business that have artificially reduced cost bases, excessive and costly trading pre requisites and much more which does include tariffs for some Countries.. And brexit has shown how huge they are. The UK is regulatory aligned to EU in all production requirements but still faces huge barriers to trade with EU. Why is that? We produce goods to all the requirements of the EU, so all the difficulty trading with them are barriers they create to trade into the common market. Why? To protect their production. Exactly what Trump is doing.
The EU does not trade freely what so ever. It trades freely within its Union but protects itself from competition from outside trade. The USA trades freely within its union and is looking to do the same thing as the EU does. Though less subtly, as is the way of Mr Trump.

All very good arguments as to why it was so insane to leave the customs union (and the single market btw). Life outside of the bloc, exposed to the whims of the new US administration and subject to the - now that we're no longer at the table- arbitrary rule of the EU is just wonderful for our prosperity! (because we can't stop trading with our neighbours, believe it or not we've always needed to and we will continue to need to!)

Tomatotater · 03/02/2025 09:02

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:59

Your president is threatening to invade Greenland and take the Panama Canal by force.

The US also gets free access to the Panama Canal, so the US already has pretty favourable terms with other countries. Panama would be within thrir rights to renege on that deal and start charging them.

Abhannmor · 03/02/2025 09:01

I stopped using Amazon ages ago , not specifically about Trump. Dumped Twitter when it was banning feminists and see no reason to go back. Reddit. Starbucks. Clinging onto FB - several fellow wrinklies on there , too old to change. I disable it sometimes though. Don't see many ' made in USA ' goods in shops though?

TopPocketFind · 03/02/2025 08:59

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

Your president is threatening to invade Greenland and take the Panama Canal by force.

Tomatotater · 03/02/2025 08:54

ticktickticktickBOOM · 03/02/2025 08:25

You're asking people to financially attack another country in YABU. When we explain why we won't, you don't want to listen.
So diplomatic of you.

Your President has financially attacked other countries, and his own country.

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