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Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 08:33

Toddler is nearly 3.

Every morning when he wakes up. We get him out of his cot and he can run around upstairs or come into bed whilst his dad or I get morning drinks (milk/ tea etc.)

For the last couple of weeks he has started screaming in the morning when we go downstairs to get the drinks.

Like full on. Full wake the whole street up screaming non stop.

I honestly dont know what to do.

Obviously I have been being calm and saying whats wrong, etc. Explaining dad always comes back with the drinks. Offering other drinks that are already available in case hes thirsty (water, squash).

We have done ignoring as well. And sternly please stop screaming - because it is literally as loud as he can.

This has been a few weeks now. He’s just been getting worse. And obviously the return of his drinks is the culmination of the event and he just happily drinks his milk so I dont know whether he thinks his screaming is resulting in a positive outcome.

But we cannot have this.

What do people suggest?

I said to DP this morning maybe we need to try no milk. He can have a glass at breakfast but hes not going to die or starve of milk deprivation in the 20/30 minutes it takes everyone to get to breakfast.

Any ideas! Help please

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xRobin · 02/02/2025 10:52

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:45

Her ‘3yr old’ is 2, almost 3, so they will be starting school next September. That’s over a year and half away so chill your boots.

Okay, her almost 3 year old screams for milk and can’t go down or climb up the stairs, which is quite ridiculous and clearly detrimental to the child’s development.
When you’ve worked in Reception, the “babyed” children stick out like a sore thumb against the rest.
Everyone on this thread has been trying to suggest to OP all the ways she can change to help the situation and they’ve mostly been ignored.

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 10:52

But an almost 3 year old should definitely be able to navigate stairs. Going down backwards and on all fours both directions if not otherwise.

Thank you,

yes to clarify the stairs. He can go up and down climbing, but he has to be supervised.

So if he doesn’t go down when drinks person does - which he hasn’t been wanting to do (the screaming starts 30 seconds to a minute later), then he has to wait.

But we are going to have to try to proactively take him down and see if that fixes things. Hopefully it does.

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Lookatallthesepearlsonthefloor · 02/02/2025 10:51

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:48

Same here, but of course this is Mumsnet where people are piling on the OP about a 2-3yr old not being ‘school ready’. My twins were in a cot til 3, one still has milk now at 6. They could also write their names, count to 20 and were potty trained by 2.5 🙄

Yeah, there's a lot of he's 3, why isn't he popping to the shops and making breakfast on the stove for everyone, mine were doing that by 18 months. Stop treating him like a 3-year-old him or he will turn into a courgette and will never drive himself to school by the time he starts year 1. Oh the humanity.

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:51

Uneventfully · 02/02/2025 10:37

This thread is either a wind up or some people just should not have children.

What about the OP and her child makes you think she shouldn’t have children?

valentinka31 · 02/02/2025 10:50

oh and yes of course I'd say if you keep screaming, then noooo milk no way.

Trupped · 02/02/2025 10:50

Strugglingrightnow · 02/02/2025 08:35

What time is he doing this? Any time from 6am is fine for starting the day imo.

Blimmin isn't

crumblingschools · 02/02/2025 10:50

DS moved out of a cot the day he somehow managed to climb out of it in his sleeping bag and fell on the floor with a loud thump (I was downstairs when I heard the thud and came upstairs to see a stunned DS sitting by his cot not quite realising what had happened)

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:49

ilovesushi · 02/02/2025 10:48

If a kid is in a cot until 3, are the bars up all around? Or is it essentially a toddler bed with no raised bars? How on earth are they getting to the loo independently? This makes no sense to me. I get that beds, mattresses are expensive, but this seem developmentally unsound.

It’s shown to be beneficial for children to sleep in cots til 3. They don’t necessarily need to use the toilet independently as the majority won’t be night trained.

valentinka31 · 02/02/2025 10:49

Well I know exactly what I'd do. This business of having to stay upstairs while whoever goes downstairs to get the milk - I would ditch that straight up. I'd pick him up and take him down with me the second he starts screeching, I'd get him to help getting out the milk etc and maybe pouring a tiny bit from one cup to another. I'd involve and distract him. I would no way sit upstairs with him screaming, telling him to stop. I'm so sorry you've been through that with him. At this age distraction and engagement is usually a great way to break the scream mid-holler.

Itisbetter · 02/02/2025 10:49

Just tell him if he can’t wait nicely for his milk he’ll have to go back to bed till he’s calmer. He’s 3! Show him what is expected so he can get on with his day. It isn’t at all kind to behave as you are.

Lookatallthesepearlsonthefloor · 02/02/2025 10:48

Hoppingabout · 02/02/2025 10:47

A three year old can easily climb out of a cot. Mine started climbing out at 2. It was when there was a massive thump from upstairs when they slipped off the side that the benefits of a bed became apparent....

Well then, that's a good reason to get a bed - nothing to do with age. Mine never tried to climb out so every family is different.

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:48

Oldermum84 · 02/02/2025 10:45

I don't have much to add apart from ignore those saying 3 is too old for morning milk. My 5 year old has a mug of milk first thing - milk is good for kids!

Also he was in his cot bed till about age 3.3. He liked it and it kept him safe and contained so why change unless you need to (I had to eventually as was too heavy lifting in and out as I was pregnant and had back issues....fwiw was a nightmare for a while once he knew he could get out of bed)!

Same here, but of course this is Mumsnet where people are piling on the OP about a 2-3yr old not being ‘school ready’. My twins were in a cot til 3, one still has milk now at 6. They could also write their names, count to 20 and were potty trained by 2.5 🙄

ilovesushi · 02/02/2025 10:48

If a kid is in a cot until 3, are the bars up all around? Or is it essentially a toddler bed with no raised bars? How on earth are they getting to the loo independently? This makes no sense to me. I get that beds, mattresses are expensive, but this seem developmentally unsound.

Hoppingabout · 02/02/2025 10:47

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:41

People need to stop being so batshit about this kid sleep in a cot. It’s shown to be beneficial to sleep in a cot til 3yrs old, so as there’s no safety issues. As for the potty - most children aren’t night trained by 3 anyway.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/important-reason-toddlers-should-sleep-13645778.amp

OP, I would withhold milk (but not water) until he stops screaming. Try a clear ‘WHEN you stop shouting, THEN you can have your milk’, then ignore him, repeating when/then as necessary.

Going downstairs might distract him, but he may well just carry on screaming down there too.

A three year old can easily climb out of a cot. Mine started climbing out at 2. It was when there was a massive thump from upstairs when they slipped off the side that the benefits of a bed became apparent....

crumblingschools · 02/02/2025 10:47

@Livelaughlurgy sadly there are children in this country who don’t have access to books. DC now late teens, there was a scheme when they were little where they got free books at certain ages (bookstart?).

Another reason funding for 2 year olds was introduced to enable children in certain areas to have access to childcare so their development needs would be met.

There are young children who don’t understand books and that is not because they are being read to via a kindle

Meanwhile33 · 02/02/2025 10:47

You have to keep adapting as your child grows and his needs change. He’s now letting you know that his needs have changed. Let him practice going up and down stairs, and then let him come down with you when one of you goes down first thing. Then play it by ear whether you’re both going back up to the parent still in bed with drinks for a cuddle and a chat, or if he’s too full of energy and needs to be somewhere more interesting instead, one of you has drinks & breakfast downstairs with the toddler and the other one sorts themselves out.

You can’t both expect a relaxing morning in bed every day when you have a toddler. It sounds like you’re expecting life to be how it was when he was a baby forever and it’s time to accept that isn’t the case.

KittenPause · 02/02/2025 10:46

You basically have bizarre rules you've created that you now need to change to accommodate your growing child

JoanCollinsDiva · 02/02/2025 10:45

At age 3 mine were getting out of their beds (not cots) and coming in our room to wake us. We'd then go down for drinks/breakfast. In fact at three, I think they'd sometimes go down with their older siblings and could easily navigate the stairs. They'd go and put the tv on!

If your child has developmental issues then maybe things are different but this all seems rather bizarre to me, he's not a baby.

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:45

xRobin · 02/02/2025 10:37

I just thought this while reading that.
Ignored every single comment saying “this isn’t normal, try this, this or this…” and just latched on to one person agreeing with her.

Her 3 year old should be starting school this September or next September at the latest. If they don’t stop babying the 3yo, they’ll be the same parents shocked and upset at Parents Evening when the teacher is saying their child is in intervention groups and won’t be hitting their ELG because they’re underdeveloped.

Her ‘3yr old’ is 2, almost 3, so they will be starting school next September. That’s over a year and half away so chill your boots.

Oldermum84 · 02/02/2025 10:45

I don't have much to add apart from ignore those saying 3 is too old for morning milk. My 5 year old has a mug of milk first thing - milk is good for kids!

Also he was in his cot bed till about age 3.3. He liked it and it kept him safe and contained so why change unless you need to (I had to eventually as was too heavy lifting in and out as I was pregnant and had back issues....fwiw was a nightmare for a while once he knew he could get out of bed)!

KittenPause · 02/02/2025 10:45

Urm yes of course

Are people honestly just plucking toddler out of room in dressing gown and going immediately downstairs for breakfast without going to the toilet or brushing teeth or anything.

User12435687 · 02/02/2025 10:45

We will be up and downstairs for hours in the morning!

I'll get up and go downstairs with the kids about 6.30am, playing and watching TV, having milk and breakfast, and at about 8am onwards we start to get organised to go out.

WhySoManySocks · 02/02/2025 10:45

I do not think your setup is bizarre- DH and I drink coffee and tea in bed, why wouldn’t your DC drink milk.

The screaming sounds like a terrible twos / seeing how far he can push it kind of thing, exacerbated by a baby in the house (if I got that right). My kids have an age gap of 2y and when DC2 started solids DC1, who had been eating independently with utensils since 11mo and had been baby led weaned before, suddenly demanded to be spoon fed for a few weeks. I think his logic was “baby sister opens mouth and spoon is inserted, nice noises made, mother’s attention given. i want those things so I will open my mouth and look helpless”.

But an almost 3 year old should definitely be able to navigate stairs. Going down backwards and on all fours both directions if not otherwise.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 02/02/2025 10:43

Another vote for taking him downstairs first thing. Sometimes you just have to change something. Toddlers are not rational at all. Him screaming for milk makes no sense, but it’s become a routine so change the routine. It’s not necessarily about doing one thing or another, just about doing something different to hopefully make him do something different.

Didimum · 02/02/2025 10:42

Livelaughlurgy · 02/02/2025 10:39

Question about that report- do 56% of parents really believe kids should be able to use a book before going to school or are they trying to jazz the numbers up for the report? Do these people walk among us?

What do you mean by ‘use a book’? Read it or open one and turn its pages? If the latter, absolutely yes.