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Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 08:33

Toddler is nearly 3.

Every morning when he wakes up. We get him out of his cot and he can run around upstairs or come into bed whilst his dad or I get morning drinks (milk/ tea etc.)

For the last couple of weeks he has started screaming in the morning when we go downstairs to get the drinks.

Like full on. Full wake the whole street up screaming non stop.

I honestly dont know what to do.

Obviously I have been being calm and saying whats wrong, etc. Explaining dad always comes back with the drinks. Offering other drinks that are already available in case hes thirsty (water, squash).

We have done ignoring as well. And sternly please stop screaming - because it is literally as loud as he can.

This has been a few weeks now. He’s just been getting worse. And obviously the return of his drinks is the culmination of the event and he just happily drinks his milk so I dont know whether he thinks his screaming is resulting in a positive outcome.

But we cannot have this.

What do people suggest?

I said to DP this morning maybe we need to try no milk. He can have a glass at breakfast but hes not going to die or starve of milk deprivation in the 20/30 minutes it takes everyone to get to breakfast.

Any ideas! Help please

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MrsSunshine2b · 02/02/2025 11:44

Ilovemyshed · 02/02/2025 11:00

Why do you believe kids shouldn't be able to read before going to school?

Basic letters and numbers by 2/3 is perfectly possible and so is reading well by 4. The sooner they start the faster they learn.

By 5 years old I was reading books aimed at 2 or 3 years older, I had to go to the library in the junior rather than infant school.

My mum taught me.

That's completely incorrect. There's no evidence that learning earlier leads to better outcomes, and children taught before they are ready is actually detrimental to their progress, hence why in a lot of countries they start learning at age 7.

I was assessed at 6 and found to have a reading age of 17. I didn't learn to read until I started school.

Sunshine1500 · 02/02/2025 11:44

hes probably frustrated waiting on you to start the day. Let him get up and go downstairs and have a proper breakfast not a drink of milk.

ilovesushi · 02/02/2025 11:43

Didimum · 02/02/2025 11:02

Night training is not a learned skill, it’s a developmental one and linked to hormone development, usually occurring between the ages of 3-5.

I have twins, one was out of night nappies at 2, the other at 4. Your individual child has zero to do with what’s developmentally normal.

And it’s beneficial for children to sleep in a cot til age 3:

www.mirror.co.uk/news/health/important-reason-toddlers-should-sleep-13645778?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#google_vignette

But if a child is developmentally ready before 3 years old but still stuck in a cot in a nappy that will impact on their learning. Seems things have changed in the decade and half since mine were little but I remember other mums couldn't wait to get their kids out of nappies.

MySerenity · 02/02/2025 11:42

This is a very odd dilemma.

The way we do it. 2 year old in bed, gets up and takes themself to the loo if they need a wee immediately. All go down in PJs, they can v confidently walk up and down and have been doing so for well over a year. They play while we get breakfast bits ready. Drink given with breakfast, unless they're thirsty and ask for one beforehand. Teeth and dressed (downstairs) after breakfast. They do their own teeth and dressing, with a bit of guidance. We then do a quicker second brush to make sure they've had a proper brush done!

It's good to foster some independence early, and they usually enjoy it too.

goingforeverythingbutpolarisation · 02/02/2025 11:41

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 08:45

We have a large house and he’s too short to really navigate the stairs independently. If we take him down then we have to ferry him back up for everyone to get ready, have showers, get dressed etc.

It’s something we are going to have to try but I am not convinced it’s not just moving the problem.

He has drinks upstairs. He’s not going to die in the period it takes to get drinks (less than 5 minutes - probably 2-3). And he’s literally screaming blue bloody murder bless him.

It will take him longer to get milk if we are getting dressed.

Could you leave a few toys, books for him to look at together with the milk?

supersop60 · 02/02/2025 11:41

OP what do you mean by 2 percentile legs?
My response would be to distract , whether that's by pretending to see a lion in the garden, or doing something to make him laugh, or taking him downstairs where it's different.
Please come back tomorrow and tell us how it went, whatever you decide to do.

ViciousCurrentBun · 02/02/2025 11:39

DS did a couple of tantrums around this age he was removed immediately and put in his bedroom and ignored. it didn’t last long, he is in his early twenties now and is fine. We did tea in bed with toddlers not sure why people are calling them lazy drinks, it’s just a drink.

Lottie6712 · 02/02/2025 11:38

It sounds to me that your current routine simply isn't working for you - and you need to change it. People have given ideas/suggestions, but only you will know what will work best! For example, my 3.5 DD isn't very hungry in the morning and is a complete dawdler, so we do brushing teeth, toilet and getting dressed etc. as soon as she wakes up and then she doesn't need to go upstairs again in the morning. Maybe the screaming is because the toddler know it gets results and perhaps there might be morning panic that they're picking up on the: who is going to get them the drink? It sounds unnecessarily stressful and so you need to make some tweaks to how you start your mornings to cut the screaming habit out!

Wonderi · 02/02/2025 11:38

Does your DH expect a drink in bed?

I’m struggling to get my head around why you would go downstairs and bring drinks back up every morning.

I would understand it maybe once in a blue moon if you’re tired and want to stay in bed for a bit longer but doing it everyday seems more faff than it’s worth.

Go downstairs in your PJs and get his milk/have breakfast whilst down there.

Beebeedoo · 02/02/2025 11:38

and the stairs? he will work out a way to get up and down, he will never learn if you keep babying him

crumblingschools · 02/02/2025 11:38

@Toddlerhelpplease123 some of the things being talked about are because of a recent report that has come out because many parents are not helping their children achieve the development points they should be at when they start school, one of which was not being able to manage stairs.

On the face of reading your initial posts it is possible to conclude that you are not changing some of your behaviour as your toddler develops (which is what is reflected on parenting behaviour in that report)

IVFmumoftwo · 02/02/2025 11:35

How is he going to learn to use steps if you don't let him? My son is nearly three and he holds onto the banister when we go down together.

Livelaughlurgy · 02/02/2025 11:34

@Ilovemyshed i inverted the stat and didn't change the response to negative. Only 44% of parents believe children should know how to use a book before school, 56% of parents don't believe that- it's that stat that astounds me. Also how they define knowing how to use a book appears to be turning pages instead of tapping and swiping.

However if they exhibit my lack of proof reading it's possible some just read it wrong 🙈

WinterBones · 02/02/2025 11:34

everyone does the morning routine that works for you, unfortunately, where toddlers are concerned, you sometimes have to pivot unexpectedly around their needs/demands (within reason)

you're not doing anything wrong, and i don't think you're babying him at all.. i think people are being ridiculous quite frankly. he's not even 3, and not doing anything developmentally inappropriate.

Asking for advice on how to handle the screaming is perfectly reasonable.

Wonderi · 02/02/2025 11:33

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 08:50

It’s not taking two of us to get drinks

Are people honestly just plucking toddler out of room in dressing gown and going immediately downstairs for breakfast without going to the toilet or brushing teeth or anything.

It takes a couple of minutes max to go to the toilet and brush your teeth.

When he starts crying, take it in turns to get up and give him to the other parent whilst you go toilet and brush your teeth and then take him downstairs and get his drink and breakfast and have it in the kitchen/front room.
You can be in your dressing gown for this.

The other parent can get up more slowly and come down when they’re ready for their breakfast and then alternate.

You need to get into the routine of going downstairs for breakfast etc once he needs to get ready for school so you might as well start now.

The majority of parents don’t do what you do because it’s just unnecessary and it’s extra work.

Babyybabyyy · 02/02/2025 11:32

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 08:45

We have a large house and he’s too short to really navigate the stairs independently. If we take him down then we have to ferry him back up for everyone to get ready, have showers, get dressed etc.

It’s something we are going to have to try but I am not convinced it’s not just moving the problem.

He has drinks upstairs. He’s not going to die in the period it takes to get drinks (less than 5 minutes - probably 2-3). And he’s literally screaming blue bloody murder bless him.

It will take him longer to get milk if we are getting dressed.

How large are the stairs? Just walk in front of him. Why can't you take him downstairs and give him a drink and breakfast whilst dad gets dressed and brushes his teeth? And then switch? Why do the three of you have to do everything together? I have a 1 1/2 year old and I give her breakfast and a cup of water in the morning and later on a cup of milk. If things are taking so long in the morning then just shower the night before.

Bestfootforward11 · 02/02/2025 11:31

I think you maybe have rigid expectations of his behaviour though. It’s a balance between having a routine and rules and letting your child become independent and express how they are feeling. Your child is not a machine. Getting up and going downstairs together with. 3 year old is a pretty normal thing to be doing. It’s different to screaming for an icecream. Best wishes.

Spurber · 02/02/2025 11:31

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 11:27

Well the whole thread has been quite mad lol 😂

We have covered everything from teeth brushing, dressing for breakfast, whether my child can walk a stairs, my feckless parenting and now even someone is mentioning books 😂

So it’s turned into a real classic MN thread and has made me laugh thankyou. And I am reading the advice 🙏

It's not a mumsnet classic

FeetupTvon · 02/02/2025 11:30

Get him in a bed and put a stair gate on room.
Id imagine he’s very frustrated.

Spurber · 02/02/2025 11:30

Get your kid a bed!

And move somewhere with stairs he can use

xRobin · 02/02/2025 11:30

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 11:27

Well the whole thread has been quite mad lol 😂

We have covered everything from teeth brushing, dressing for breakfast, whether my child can walk a stairs, my feckless parenting and now even someone is mentioning books 😂

So it’s turned into a real classic MN thread and has made me laugh thankyou. And I am reading the advice 🙏

Toddlers are a whirlwind to figure out OP!
One thing I’ll add on to help you, console an upset child absolutely but don’t console a tantrum. I’d advise to distract a tantrum.
If you’d prefer to stay in the bedroom, you could start a game of hide and seek or something similar to give your son something else to focus on x

Beebeedoo · 02/02/2025 11:29

oh and 3 year olds can easily walk up and down the stairs !! you are treating him like a 6 month old!!

Hoppingabout · 02/02/2025 11:28

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 11:27

Well the whole thread has been quite mad lol 😂

We have covered everything from teeth brushing, dressing for breakfast, whether my child can walk a stairs, my feckless parenting and now even someone is mentioning books 😂

So it’s turned into a real classic MN thread and has made me laugh thankyou. And I am reading the advice 🙏

You're doing your best OP! And that's all anyone can ask.
Easier second time round. At least you will know what doesn't work!

WinterBones · 02/02/2025 11:28

ApolloandDaphne · 02/02/2025 11:23

@WinterBones He is almost 3 though. Most 2.5/3 yo are merrily climbing up anything. Even the most reluctant climber should be able to go up and down stairs without supervision at that age.

Almost and actually into being 3 can have vast differences developmentally, at that age they come on in almost overnight leaps and bounds. Even 2-3 months can signal vast differences in capability.

Toddlerhelpplease123 · 02/02/2025 11:27

Well the whole thread has been quite mad lol 😂

We have covered everything from teeth brushing, dressing for breakfast, whether my child can walk a stairs, my feckless parenting and now even someone is mentioning books 😂

So it’s turned into a real classic MN thread and has made me laugh thankyou. And I am reading the advice 🙏

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