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To think it is NOT OK to only send one DC to private school

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MrsMust · 02/02/2025 04:49

DH and I disagree on this point.
We do not make enough to send more than one DC to private school. Our financial situation is unlikely to improve very much over the next decade (DH is roughly at the top of the ladder in his career, we prefer me to be the flexible worker of the two of us to avoid external after school childcare etc and our mortgage have another 30 odd years).
We have one DC (currently toddler) but would like one more DC.

I think both DC should have equal treatment and either both go to state school or both go to private school. I think it would ruin nice family dynamics, cause resentment between siblings and parents etc

DH thinks we should do everything in our ability to give DC the best possible education (that would result in a subsequent excellent career). Even if that means that it happens for one DC only because we don't have the extra money for two DC in private education. He made it sound like I am nuts for wanting to give DD anything less than what we can afford.

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BunnyVV · 03/02/2025 17:43

I have 3 DC.
the first at private school with a scholarship and bursary.
the second at a very good state school. He didn’t get into the private school and didn’t really want to go (not as academic). There are private schools where he would’ve got in (lower academic standards) but he wasn’t bothered.
the older child is happy at his private school and understands there’s no extra money for school ski trips etc
the second child loves the school ski trip and is happy he gets to go.
neither child expects a fair share of money because it’s impossible to evaluate if fees are taken into account. But the older one understands he must sacrifice trips.

youngest is still at primary school. No idea what he wants to do for secondary.

hydriotaphia · 03/02/2025 15:41

I agree it would be unfair. Massive possibility for resentment. Send both to state and spend the money equally on extracurricular opportunities and university imho. Or spend it on relocating to the catchment of a great state school.

MaryBeardy · 03/02/2025 15:36

MrsMust · 03/02/2025 15:29

By private schools DH means looking at those schools that statistically have students go on to Oxbridge. His logic is they will go on to have successful careers.

DH went to a very very bad local state school and was their only student in history to go to Oxford and he has seen the benefits it can offer and wants the same for DC. (You could argue he hasn't been that successful if we can't afford private school for more than one DC but I think considering DH's background he has done very well. He has had a previous/expensive divorce, bought his parents a house and they are dependent on him etc etc so maybe in another world the same salary would fund 2xDC at private school)

Oxbridge will not necessarily serve your kids well. I say that as someone who has been to both. A good school will though.

MrsMust · 03/02/2025 15:29

LostMySocks · 03/02/2025 11:32

What do you mean by private?

Small independent which suits one child (maybe with super pastoral support) and another going to an outstanding state school or grammar?
Sending one to one of the big famous public schools which has huge grounds and facilities and the other to s state school is a significantly different situation.
But personally I would always aim to give DS the same opportunities. One may go to a better selective grammar than the other but both will get the same support the 11+. Both will get offered clubs but not necessarily the same ones.

By private schools DH means looking at those schools that statistically have students go on to Oxbridge. His logic is they will go on to have successful careers.

DH went to a very very bad local state school and was their only student in history to go to Oxford and he has seen the benefits it can offer and wants the same for DC. (You could argue he hasn't been that successful if we can't afford private school for more than one DC but I think considering DH's background he has done very well. He has had a previous/expensive divorce, bought his parents a house and they are dependent on him etc etc so maybe in another world the same salary would fund 2xDC at private school)

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LostMySocks · 03/02/2025 11:32

What do you mean by private?

Small independent which suits one child (maybe with super pastoral support) and another going to an outstanding state school or grammar?
Sending one to one of the big famous public schools which has huge grounds and facilities and the other to s state school is a significantly different situation.
But personally I would always aim to give DS the same opportunities. One may go to a better selective grammar than the other but both will get the same support the 11+. Both will get offered clubs but not necessarily the same ones.

MrsMust · 03/02/2025 11:10

Hello, thank you all so much for your replies. Lots of advice and all really insightful. DH and I have been reading through them and it's convinced DH he is wrong.

As some of you said, it could be better to find an outstanding state primary and save hard for private secondary or move to catchment area for a grammar school - all contingent on, of course, needs of DC. So we are now thinking more along the lines of this.

Thank you again everyone x

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Gogogo12345 · 03/02/2025 09:15

JessiesJ99 · 02/02/2025 12:52

But that isn't the issue here. OP is purely coming from a financial point of view. They don't think they can afford to privately educate two children.

Still addresses the many people who are saying they'd not send one child ( for whatever reason) if they couldn't send the others

godmum56 · 02/02/2025 22:09

jeaux90 · 02/02/2025 12:38

I have a dd15 in private school. She has AuDHD so private gave her what she needed.

If I had a sporty, NT kid I would have sent them to the local state school.

My neighbours had one in private and one in state because one is dyslexic and SEN provision in state near me is shite.

My point is you pick the right school for the child, so no I don't think sending one and not the other is bad necessarily.

no but its not right to make that decision on principle even before child 2 is born.

Ihadenough22 · 02/02/2025 14:04

I would just have one child if it's important that your child goes to a private school at the secondary stage. Send them to a good local primary school before this. Private education is expensive. Also when you have a child depending on their personality, abilities, intelligence and what they are like socially you can see what type of school would suit them.

One family I know have kids and they planned for them to go boarding school at secondary age. Child one bright in school, sociable, out going and they went to boarding school. They liked it here, made plenty of friends and got good results for a prestigious university degree.
Child 2 then was diagnosed on the autism spectrum after several years of various signs that they were not nuro typical. This child would not have coped in a boarding school and they did not want to go. They went to a local good secondary school but the parents spent money on helping them with grinds and developing the interests they had. This child thrived in the local secondary school and was happy moving away to university.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 02/02/2025 13:08

Maybe don’t have another child if that’s his view?

I could understand sending a child who really struggled to private school to try to get them through exams etc whilst keeping one who was bright enough to do well anywhere in state. It would cause resentment but I’d get it. I wouldn’t get it the other way around!

Itsforthebest · 02/02/2025 12:57

I would start them in a state primary and see how it goes. If one then needs private because they're finding it difficult in the state system, then make the decision. There is no way I could send one kid to private and one to state without any really good cause. People send kids to private schools for all sorts of reasons - I have friends who have sent their kids because of SEN, bullying in the local comp etc - but the vast majority send kids because it can give them a leg up for all the reasons stated on this thread. I don't know how anyone can sleep well knowing that they have given one of their kids this opportunity from the outset and not the other.

On a side note, my kids have been through the state system in 'needs improving' to 'outstanding' schools but always with good progress 8. Both have done really well, one in a highly ranked uni and the other with an offer to Cambridge. Generally speaking, I've seen no big difference in academic attainment between my kids in state and my other kids in academic private schools. The biggest predictors I've seen are results in SATS in primary school and then the kid having a stable, supportive home life.

JessiesJ99 · 02/02/2025 12:52

Gogogo12345 · 02/02/2025 12:41

Hmmm. One child had a scholarship to a Private prep school. The brother at the same age they took the entrance exam couldn't read Why would you deny one child sn opportunity simply be cause the other isn't capable of it?

But that isn't the issue here. OP is purely coming from a financial point of view. They don't think they can afford to privately educate two children.

Cakeandusername · 02/02/2025 12:49

It sounds like your dh would be happier with one dc.

MaryBeardy · 02/02/2025 12:44

My mum was sent to a local grammar. Her brothers - one younger, one older - both went to private boarding schools. She was as academically gifted as they were. She never understood why. Generously, maybe my grandparents realised her personality was not conducive to a happy life at boarding school (v insecure), but it was most probably sexism. Her brothers went on to have massively successful careers and she was a v late bloomer. It has made me determined never to do the same to my children.

JessiesJ99 · 02/02/2025 12:44

He's being ridiculous. If you can't afford to do something for all your kids, then you don't do it for any.
How does he think dc2 would feel? And how would he justify this to them?

Gogogo12345 · 02/02/2025 12:41

Hmmm. One child had a scholarship to a Private prep school. The brother at the same age they took the entrance exam couldn't read Why would you deny one child sn opportunity simply be cause the other isn't capable of it?

BeDeepKoala · 02/02/2025 12:39

Janbluesuary · 02/02/2025 12:15

Saying all state schools are like that is like saying all private schools are perfect. The reality is that most state and private are somewhere in between

The state school my kids went to, one is still there the behaviour overall is fine. Not perfect and there’s too much answering back and low level rudeness but there’s absolutely no violence or throwing things whatsoever at any times.

The teaching varies from fine to truly outstanding and 60% of GCSE results are 7-9, kids getting at least 5 GCSE’s at 5-9 is about 85%with a good 25% of the year group getting a straight run of 8-9

other state schools will be similar and some will be dire. Same with private.

Also with state schools you are completely rolling the dice. Maybe your kids got lucky and there were no highly disruptive children in the same class with your kids. But thas all it is -- luck. If there were any such children then the state school would have very little ability to actually do anything about it (particularly if they had "SEN"), since expulsion/discipline/etc is mostly impossible in the state sector.

In contrast, private schools tend to be quite pro-active about getting rid of pupils who are disruptive and negatively impacting everyone else. Thats another thing that comes with the direct accountability.

jeaux90 · 02/02/2025 12:38

I have a dd15 in private school. She has AuDHD so private gave her what she needed.

If I had a sporty, NT kid I would have sent them to the local state school.

My neighbours had one in private and one in state because one is dyslexic and SEN provision in state near me is shite.

My point is you pick the right school for the child, so no I don't think sending one and not the other is bad necessarily.

BeDeepKoala · 02/02/2025 12:37

Janbluesuary · 02/02/2025 12:15

Saying all state schools are like that is like saying all private schools are perfect. The reality is that most state and private are somewhere in between

The state school my kids went to, one is still there the behaviour overall is fine. Not perfect and there’s too much answering back and low level rudeness but there’s absolutely no violence or throwing things whatsoever at any times.

The teaching varies from fine to truly outstanding and 60% of GCSE results are 7-9, kids getting at least 5 GCSE’s at 5-9 is about 85%with a good 25% of the year group getting a straight run of 8-9

other state schools will be similar and some will be dire. Same with private.

Its not the same at all though, because independent schools are directly answerable to parents and have very direct incentives to ensure that all children are receiving a high standard of education (otherwise parents will stop paying fees).

State schools have no direct incentives to care about parents (or indeed, most children). Thats why they are perfectly fine with ignoring half the kids in the class and focusing only on a small number, because if parents withdraw their kids then who cares really?

Turns out when you have direct accountability, there an incentive for good performance. Thats Econ 101

(I saw "direct" accountability because state schools obviously have very very indirect accountability through OFTED, but that very different to being accountable to the actual parents/children in the school)

Janbluesuary · 02/02/2025 12:15

BeDeepKoala · 02/02/2025 12:05

Its funny in threads like this how half the posters are coping with the "private schools arent necessarily better" nonsense jjust because they cant afford it.

In contrast, literally every thread on mumsnet about state schools (particulalry those where teachers are posting) makes clear that the state sector is completely broken with huge class sizes, hordes of badly behaved kids disrupting classes, misguided inclusion policies with SEN kids without support having regular meltdown in classes, the impossibility of expelling kids no matter what levels of violence/bullying they engage in, teachers basically ignoring all the kids in the class except the ones at the bottom, etc etc.

Of course private is a lot better lol

Saying all state schools are like that is like saying all private schools are perfect. The reality is that most state and private are somewhere in between

The state school my kids went to, one is still there the behaviour overall is fine. Not perfect and there’s too much answering back and low level rudeness but there’s absolutely no violence or throwing things whatsoever at any times.

The teaching varies from fine to truly outstanding and 60% of GCSE results are 7-9, kids getting at least 5 GCSE’s at 5-9 is about 85%with a good 25% of the year group getting a straight run of 8-9

other state schools will be similar and some will be dire. Same with private.

Nina1013 · 02/02/2025 12:10

And yes I would stop at one child to be able to privately educate, 100%.

But I would never have 2 and only privately educate one. That’s madness.

Nina1013 · 02/02/2025 12:10

WTAF have I just read.

If you only have one child, and you want to effectively spend every penny on that one child, then surely you stop at one child?

BeDeepKoala · 02/02/2025 12:05

Its funny in threads like this how half the posters are coping with the "private schools arent necessarily better" nonsense jjust because they cant afford it.

In contrast, literally every thread on mumsnet about state schools (particulalry those where teachers are posting) makes clear that the state sector is completely broken with huge class sizes, hordes of badly behaved kids disrupting classes, misguided inclusion policies with SEN kids without support having regular meltdown in classes, the impossibility of expelling kids no matter what levels of violence/bullying they engage in, teachers basically ignoring all the kids in the class except the ones at the bottom, etc etc.

Of course private is a lot better lol

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 02/02/2025 11:41

I agree, unless it is very obvious one would benefit much more. I've friends with 3, 2 went private and 1 didn't ... first two were 'brain boxes'.

ACynicalDad · 02/02/2025 11:32

I read an article in the Times from someone in their 30s whose sibling had the chance they didn't. It fractured the family. I'd only do it if one child had a scholarship that covered most of the cost and you were topping up, if one had finished school, then you came into money or possibly if one was SEN and needed a specialist school you couldn't get on the state. To choose one child over another would be awful.
My family all went private and it served us well, but occasionally, I look up my year group in my house and a fair few have done very little with the opportunity.